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The result was no consensus. Davewild ( talk) 20:38, 31 May 2015 (UTC) reply

Andrea Kalousová

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WP:ONEEVENT, most sources not conform WP:RS, possibly fails WP:GNG The Banner  talk 08:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:40, 16 May 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. North America 1000 13:13, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
  • @ Winner 42: - re " It is not Wikipedia place to decide what is and isn't notable" - Really??? Well golly gee. There I was thinking that's that what we did here. Admittedly she has some coverage in Czech media, but I can't find a single English language reference for her. Her notability is clearly entirely local. And has she done anything other than win a single notable pageant? Why doesn't WP:BLP1E apply? NickCT ( talk) 19:48, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Oh yes. Yes. The Times of Beauty. How did I miss a reference in that fine and reputable publication? I know WP:NOENG applies, but fact is, if she isn't notable enough to warrant a single ref in a serious English language publication, she probably ain't that notable. NickCT ( talk) 20:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Define serious. Both English sources are considered "authoritative in relation to the subject" and therefore reliable. They are also independent from the contests and third party with editorial review thereby meeting the definition of an independent reliable sources. But, the fact is that it does not matter if English sources exist at all per WP:NOENG. Her significant coverage in Czech sources is enough. Though the fact that you didn't even bother to look at the sources in the article before coming to the AfD certainly says something. Winner 42 Talk to me! 20:47, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
  • @ Winner 42: - I bothered to search engine test it, which is really more relevant in these conversations than is simply looking at the references on the page. re "serious" - Is Times of Beauty a notable enough source to have its own WP page? WP:LPI is a bad essay, by-the-by. Our policy (i.e. WP:BLP1E) applies here. NickCT ( talk) 21:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Sources are not required to be in English... and that should never be a factor in meeting GNG. You can also hit up Google Translate and get a rough estimate as to whether or not the source is the subject of the article. —Мандичка YO 😜 06:11, 23 May 2015 (UTC) reply
@ Cloudz679: The person at the previous AfD won Miss Universe, this person won Miss World. They are different contests which are equally notable and should be kept on the same grounds. Winner 42 Talk to me! 19:20, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
Sure, they have multiple titles at Czech Miss, but the title of Czech Miss itself went to Švantnerová, and not Kalousová. The individual certainly did not win Miss World! C 679 19:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
You know what I meant, she won the nomination to represent the Czech republic at Miss World. Winner 42 Talk to me! 19:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
They may throw in some goodies for second and third place, but she did not win the competition. The Banner  talk 20:54, 22 May 2015 (UTC) reply
I believe you, Kalousová did not win 2015 Miss Czech World in April. So my next question is, who do you think is orchestrating this sham of lies, this misinformation, this twisted propaganda saying she did win it? It must be someone high up if they can influence all Czech media into printing over and over that she won Miss Czech World? And thus is going to compete at the Miss World pageant? [4], [5], [6]. The official Miss Czech organisation is in on it too, those lying bastards. And how cruel to Nikol Švantnerova, the one and only true Miss Czech World, who has been fraudulently entered into the Miss Universe Pageant. I know a guy to contact. —Мандичка YO 😜 06:11, 23 May 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I agree with Winner 42, "winning a national pageant title as a qualifier to the "Miss World" category would qualify as winning a major award." Cheers! WordSeventeen ( talk) 01:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Satisfies WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. To win a national beauty pageant, and represent one's country in an international event (part of the Big Four) is notable, and significant coverage has been found already. To compare the size of the country to other bigger contries is totally out of order. Guidelines on politicians or sportsmen say "national" office or champion without any reference to the size. National is national. Period. Kraxler ( talk) 18:10, 29 May 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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