- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. The general consensus is we should wait and see how the article and subject develops, rather than delete now. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:08, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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He was unofficially elected in July 2018 elections however the election commission of Pakistan decided not to notify the subject as returning candidate after he was found holding Afghan nationality. Fails to pass WP:POLITICIAN fow now. Received press coverage due to a single event - 2018 election - so BLP1 applies as well. Saqib ( talk) 17:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - as well as an interesting dispute about whether NPOL could be deemed to apply from winning an election (the same dispute could occur in versions of a winning candidate dying before taking up office), I think that there is sufficient coverage independent of that precisely because of the controversy to make it a keep. In addition to my first sentence potentially suggesting an individual article is appropriate, I think the nature of the event being about the candidate not meeting citizenship requirements that I don't think an BLP1E applies sufficiently to warrant this article not being appropriate either. Nosebagbear ( talk) 11:16, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- He was not elected officially so NPOL does not clearly apply. --
Saqib (
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11:24, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- It doesn't clearly apply, but it also doesn't clearly not apply as regards "This also applies to persons who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them".
Nosebagbear (
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12:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- But he was not elected. The Election Commission of Pakistan did not declared him returned candidate. -- Saqib ( talk) 13:28, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- It doesn't clearly apply, but it also doesn't clearly not apply as regards "This also applies to persons who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them".
Nosebagbear (
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12:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- He was not elected officially so NPOL does not clearly apply. --
Saqib (
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11:24, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 15:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 15:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KCVelaga ( talk) 05:04, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KCVelaga ( talk) 05:04, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep For the same reasons I noted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zahid Ali (politician), there is no source saying he was not elected but many which say he was. He meets WP:NPOL until we have a source clearly saying that his election is declared null and void. The matter of his Afghan citizenship is still not decided so how can Wikipedia decide it for Pakistani judiciary and declare him Afghan and his election null and void on that basis. Let's wait until that decision is made outside Wikipedia first, there is no need to rush the deletion. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 11:26, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks User talk:SheriffIsInTown for clarifying his nationality case.
- Comment Even if he is proven to be an Afghan and his election is declared null and void due to that, merely him being first Afghan (non-Pakistani) to be allowed to contest the election in Pakistan and win it when it comes to number of votes highlights institutional failure in Pakistan and makes him even more notable than most of legibly elected Pakistani MPs. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:30, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep It's true that his nationality case is pending with interior ministry and according to last media report NADRA (National Database & Registration Authority) could not provide enough data till september 6, 2018 befor interior ministry and the ministry ordered NADRA for the last time to come up with records. Daily Azadi Quetta
- For further information, he is a known politician in Quetta city of Balochistan and general secretary of a registered political party who has contested election multiple time and have been active in the provincial politics for a decads. He has been elected officially but his notification has been in pending due to his case on-going case in the court. I am also in fevor of to keep the article untile the court decide the final decision rather then tagging for deletion. -- Ehussain ( talk) 00:22, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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