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The result was merge to Al-Muhajiroun. Liz Read! Talk! 23:32, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah
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This group does not have particularly clear notability. An organization with an extremely generic name, aside from the initial BBC story, its mentions appear largely trivial. It is not mentioned in connection with the Danish embassy event on the actual page for that event, so the only thing it seems to actually be connected with is one tiny protest (in Luton) - which itself seems like a pretty non-eventful or trivial cause for notability. Not exactly an organization for the history books, or, I would suggest here, one of real encyclopedic interest. Iskandar323 ( talk) 12:44, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Islam. Iskandar323 ( talk) 12:44, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Not a shred of notability. Maliner ( talk) 09:25, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep (possibly merge): The organisation is mentioned as prominent in a reference book on islamophobia.
[1] The protest in Luton was covered by several natonal media.
[2]
[3] As per
this report, Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah was already reported as successor of
Al-Muhajiroun by BBC in 2005, and was in 2009 renamed back to
Al-Muhajiroun, which is "the most notorious of the domestic Salafi-jihadist groups" in the UK; it also adopted the name
Islam4UK. --
TadejM
my talk
12:02, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- I did take a look at that book and it is, as far as I can tell, the only one that individual ever wrote. They are not clearly an established subject-matter expert on the subject of British Muslim groups, and I would say we should take their designation of it as 'prominent' with a pinch of salt. Without other supporting sources, it is a rather exceptional claim. On the second note, if this group is indeed identical to
Al-Muhajiroun, but merely rebranded for five years, it should almost certainly be merged back into the "Disbandment", early aliases: 2004–2009 section of that page.
Iskandar323 (
talk)
12:51, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- The Al-Muhajiroun page seems to attribute the same Luton protest assigned to the group here to that group, furthering the impetus for a merger. Iskandar323 ( talk) 12:56, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- I did take a look at that book and it is, as far as I can tell, the only one that individual ever wrote. They are not clearly an established subject-matter expert on the subject of British Muslim groups, and I would say we should take their designation of it as 'prominent' with a pinch of salt. Without other supporting sources, it is a rather exceptional claim. On the second note, if this group is indeed identical to
Al-Muhajiroun, but merely rebranded for five years, it should almost certainly be merged back into the "Disbandment", early aliases: 2004–2009 section of that page.
Iskandar323 (
talk)
12:51, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete (or merge), Fails GNG based on current sources. I would say that we could merge if appropriate though. — Moops ⋠ T⋡ 18:49, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 15:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- delete -former group, no significant in-depth coverage. Lokys dar Vienas ( talk) 20:07, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
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