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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 16:07, 5 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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Tried redirecting as per WP:CRYSTAL but it's since been contested - this is as of yet unreleased and has no coverage outside of "Microsoft just announced x will be released on y date" along with rumor-hype, which isn't really much of an article. I'd ask that this be deleted and redirected to the original target and can be revisited once it's released/if it receives necessary coverage. Praxidicae ( talk) 13:36, 29 August 2019 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 13:57, 29 August 2019 (UTC) reply

• Deletion is definitely not appropriate as the game is due out in 3 months, and MS has talked extensively in general of the Age of Empires definitive editions. Whether this game needs a separate article from the original Age of Empires II game that's a separate question, but regardless "Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition" will be a likely search term. At worst Merge and Redirect to Age of Empires II but a Keep is also possible. -- Masem ( t) 14:07, 29 August 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Not sure how WP:CRYSTAL is supposed to be applicable here since all information is in fact verifiable and it's virtually certain that the game will meet any notability tests once released since reviews in multiple magazines and other reliable sources for a major title like that will exist. But it already meets WP:GNG because it has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. Heck, there is even a extensive review of the beta version already. Definitely individually notable. Regards So Why 14:55, 29 August 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep SoWhy, none of the sources you posted besides the Game Informer preview are establishing notability. PCGamesN one can be used to expand development section but it's a WP:PRIMARY interview, and the rest are all WP:ROUTINE announcements of the game, neither of which are WP:SIGCOV (which requires in-depth reporting of the game). However, Game Informer mentioned here [6], PC World [7], Eurogamer [8], Laptop Mag (part of Purch Group) [9], Destructoid [10], GameStar [11], Computer Bild [12], Gamereactor [13], Heinz Heise [14] before I stopped searching. Clearly notable even before release, meets WP:GNG. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 17:02, 29 August 2019 (UTC) reply

Pinging Masem and Praxidicae just in case to see the sources. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 17:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC) reply

• Keep. Good arguments made. Hyperbolick ( talk) 18:13, 29 August 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep The game is due out pretty soon, and has some coverage. I don't think it makes much sense to delete it, just to recreate it in about a month when pre-release hype and reviews start coming in. Alternatively, could Merge with Age of Empires II. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!} ⚓ 05:45, 30 August 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep Passes the general notability guideline from coverage so no valid reason to delete it. Dream Focus 16:41, 30 August 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep Specially considering that it has already received lots of coverage in multiple gaming and news outlets [15], [16], [17], [18] and already has a confirmed release date, November 14, 2019, which is two and half months away. I would also advocate for a Merge but we already have Age of Empires II: HD Edition, which itself is an enhanced edition/re-release as a separate article.   UzEE  10:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep. I'd like a little more, but it's solidly referenced and verified. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 21:00, 31 August 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep Firstly not sure why WP:CRYSTAL is relevant the release data as well as other details have all been verifiable sourced and is coming out in 3 months. It has also received WP:GNG as it has received significant coverage in numerous reliable sources as mentioned by others like: [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] ,, [31], [32], [33], [34], [35] , [36], [37], [38], [39], [40], [41], [42], [43], [44], [45], [46], [47], [48], [49], [50]. Some obviously some of these are WP:ROUTINE but a significant number of other articles as also mentioned by Jovanmilic97 provide WP:SIGCOV. Clearly meets WP:GNG. Granted not all of these articles are currently being in referenced in the article however it is still being worked on. Spy-cicle ( talk) 16:22, 1 September 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep - passes WP:GNG. Videogameplayer99 ( talk) 21:25, 1 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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