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I don't agree with that logic: if it is legitmately mentioned in
Agribusiness then we decide which of the two is the primary topic or neither, so there are 3 possible outcomes: redirect to Agribusiness, redirect to the village, have a dab page.
Keep. I agree with the nominator that this dab is appropriate: "AgBiz" is attested as meaning "agribusiness" (not just in South African contexts
[1][2]), but this use is obscure, so not worth mentioning in the target article. The other topic,
Ağbiz, is equally obscure, so there's no
primary topic between the two. –
Uanfala (
talk)
11:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)reply
But Wikipedia does not usually provide a redirect or dab page entry unless the term is mentioned in the target page.
PamD17:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)reply
There's some language to that extent in
MOS:DABABBR, much of which, by the way, is in awful need of changing, but nothing of the sort in
MOS:DABSYN. But I hope we're able to move beyond the simplified and sometimes imperfect heuristics in MOS:DAB and use the underlying logic directly. Fundamentally, what we need before including a topic on a dab page is a) an article with relevant content to point to, and b) some sourcing to demonstrate that the topic in that article can be referred to using the dab term. Articles are expected to have sourced mentions of any major alternative names, and dab pages are generally expected not to have references on them, so in the majority of cases the mention-in-article rule would be a good description of reality. The departure happens for obscure or obvious alternative names ("agbiz" is both), because articles aren't expected to list them. –
Uanfala (
talk)
20:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect - I was the one who originally asked why someone would use "agbiz" for agribusiness; it would then be "agbis". I would prefer it to redirect to Ağbiz instead.
Ⲕրⲁիօրետ (
tɒk) 15:04, 25 February 2023 (UTC) Just redirect to agribusiness and put a hatnote for Ağbiz for users who were looking for that.
Ⲕրⲁիօրետ (
tɒk)
20:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep as dab page (for a quiet life), or redirect to the village. I'll AGF that it's a plausible term for
Agribusiness, though it's interesting to note that Merriam-Webster
includes "
Agribiz" but does not mention "Agbiz". We don't include redirects, or dab page entries, for every unsourced abbreviation for a topic: if someone would like to add "... commonly abbreviated as agribiz or agbiz ...", with sources for both, to
Agribusiness, then all would be well.
PamD11:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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