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The result was delete. MelanieN ( talk) 23:47, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
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Minor politician lacking notability. Fails WP:NN and WP:POLITICIAN. reddogsix ( talk) 23:27, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- KEEP - Aaron Del Mar was the first minority to be elected to the Cook County Republican party which is the 2nd Largest County in the United States. He was also the first minority and youngest person to be elected to the overwhelmingly white city of Palatine, IL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarondelmar ( talk • contribs) 23:36, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete He is a local politician with no current claim to notability. If his role in Palatine Township is truly historic, he can be mentioned there. One needs to keep in mind that Cook County Republicans elected an African-American, Oscar Stanton De Priest to the US house in 1928. So I am extremely credulous that any election of Del Mar to any position is significant. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 02:29, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- KEEP should keep this article. It has national links to John Kasich and built on solid content. I think it should stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olympic13 ( talk • contribs) 04:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC) ::— Olympic13 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment - how does this meet the Wikipedia notability criteria? reddogsix ( talk) 21:34, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete because as detailed this may be, there's nothing for WP:POLITICIAN, not currently convincing. SwisterTwister talk 04:42, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Their are a significant amount of citations and more than enough articles to prove notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olympic13 ( talk • contribs) 18:02, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Please note that you're allowed to comment in an AFD as many times as you like — but you only get one "vote". The "keep" at the beginning of this followup comment has been stripped accordingly — you do not get to preface every followup comment with another "vote". Bearcat ( talk) 19:01, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Being the local chair of his political party's local chapter in his own county is not, in and of itself, a claim of notability that gets a person into an international encyclopedia — and neither is "first minority elected to an otherwise non-notable office". If this were Cookcountypedia, or if his holding of this office also made him the first minority ever to hold any political office in the entire state of Illinois, then I'd let it go — but a politician has to demonstrate considerably wider prominence than this before he becomes suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia whose audience is also in California, Canada, England, South Africa, Australia, Belarus and Japan. In addition, the article was written by the subject himself, a violation of our conflict of interest rules, and has enough promotional/PR overtones that I would at least have been tempted to speedy it as a blatant advertisement, had I seen it before the nominator did. And the fact that a political activist of purely local notability endorsed John Kasich does not make the existence of this article contextually necessary to our coverage of Kasich, either — it's part of the political process for people involved in it to support or endorse candidates for important offices, but the fact of the endorsement doesn't confer notability on the giver of the endorsement per se. And while there are plenty of sources here which namecheck his existence, there are not a lot of sources which are substantively about him in the manner necessary to pass WP:GNG — the only sources in which he's substantively the subject are local community weeklies. All of which means that none of this is compelling enough, nor sourced well enough, to get him in the door. Delete. Bearcat ( talk) 18:58, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete As not meeting WP:GNG, namely failing to have receibed "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". An endorsement for a candidate for party nomination is not a notable act. AusLondonder ( talk) 06:05, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete As per above - especially the reasoning of Bearcat. Peter Rehse ( talk) 19:03, 3 May 2016 (UTC)*
- KEEPCook County is not a "local" chapter it has 5.2 MILLION people. To be the elected leader of 5.2 million people is "significant" that is more than most states. Mr. Del Mar has earned more votes than some governors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:248:202:1D99:21B6:8748:4E81:94E1 ( talk • contribs) — 2601:248:202:1D99:21B6:8748:4E81:94E1 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- ...and how does this support notability? Also what evidence do you have concerning the number of votes he has received? reddogsix ( talk) 02:43, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- He's not the elected leader of 5.2 million people — he's the chairman of the board of one individual political party's local chapter in the county, which is not the same thing. And at any rate, notability on Wikipedia is conferred by (a) the holding of a notable political office, and (b) the degree of reliable source coverage that is available about them in that office — not by the raw number of votes a person did or didn't receive. Bearcat ( talk) 03:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per Johnpacklambert and Bearcat (no relation to me). The page is so filled with extravagant and false allegations as to require a complete re-write. For example, it is impossible for him to have gained 5.2 million votes, when considering that children and non-citizens can't vote for him; we need a very good citation to back up such an extravagant claim. Clearly this person fails our guidelines such as WP:GNG -- and yes, we still have specific guidelines for inclusion such as WP:POLITICIAN. You don't gain notability by endorsing somebody else. I'm sure Del Mar is a nice person and his family and friends love him, but he is just not important enough to have his own article here at Wikipedia. Bearian ( talk) 11:52, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Article in its current state does not meet WP:POLITICIAN nor WP:GNG, and as stated by AusLondonder, an endorsement for a political candidate for a party nomination is not a notable act in itself.-- Shootingstar111 ( talk) 00:03, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
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