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Speedy Keep - Per Ester8806. This nomination seems to have acted mainly as a spoiler on the event's ITN nomination, so a speedy keep will allow that discussion to be resumed.
GenevieveDEon (
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12:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete or draftify. It is inappropriate to claim GNG when only primary sources exist. Please do not create articles for events before sustained coverage is demonstrated through retrospective analysis.
Thebiguglyalien (
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15:47, 1 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Estar8806, per
WP:RSBREAKING: All breaking news stories, without exception, are primary sources, and must be treated with caution. This is in line with how historiography treats new information coming from news reports. Secondary sources are those that synthesise primary sources.
Thebiguglyalien (
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21:43, 1 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep The coverage of this is extensive across mainstream national and regional media outlets, as well as Reuters and AP. Clearly meets notability guidelines. We don't apply WP:LASTING or WP:NOTNEWS to articles that are immediately created after school shootings in the US - not sure why this would be any different.
Schwinnspeed (
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16:01, 1 November 2023 (UTC)reply
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