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c) buidhe21:51, 2 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Thank you for educating me.
Please note, as in a dance two people are required.
If two people are required and participate, how is it decided which person "committed the crime"? You and I were involved in this "dance" - in fact you initiated it. With that established, who is to say that you, the "editor", a person that appears not to be a subject matter expert since he does not understand the Croatian language, are not in the wrong and I am the wronged party?
I would have accepted you action in undoing my additions if there was at least even a reasonable explanation - but the comments were curt and glib. From my perspective - if you are capable of putting yourself into another person's perspective - you were being a jerk. A wiki-troll that gets off on the tiny bit of power they have. The online world is full of people like that. Mostly likely you are not, but your actions were interpreted differently.
Think of this. Someone "joins the club", then makes an active effort to contribute, spends time to add something, and then come under attack by some anonymous person acting in a curt and glib way making insinuations with "red flags" and "good faith". How is the noob, feeling bullied, supposed to think about welcome to Wikipedia?
Please stop. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, as you did at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia/Participants, you may be
blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. Accusing another editor of "controlling" a page, and apparently trying to
dox them, is below the standard of civility at Wikipedia. If you feel another editor has done something wrong, please address it in a way that addresses the behavior you feel to be incorrect, rather than as an ad hominem attack. --
Joy (
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19:13, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Is criticism not allowed here?
I was merely asking a question. I would quote it here but someone has deleted it. As for your allegation of "doxing", I was presenting information that is on
Miki Filigranski's page to identify the person - thus I am not "doxing".
I used the word "control" because he is the one that is doing most of the editing and deleting the work of others. To me, that looks like "control"?
As for the page "
Subic family", the page is pretty bad. Even after ten years, there has not been much improvement when there is a wealth of information available but little has been done.
You speak of "assume bad faith" yet I have been the victim on bullying here on Wikipedia and it is difficult to have a positive outlook on this place as a noob. Yet, I, the victim, am now the bad guy.
May I flip this conversation around? I see that you have been on Wikipedia since before 2004 and are participant #1 at WikiProject Croatia. Do you have no shame in allowing such a poor quality presentation of one of our greatest heroes to stand? After everything the Zrinski family did for our Homeland, do they not deserve a better article?
Or is my POV and experience irrelevant and that is why you are throwing threats at me?
I have spent ten years researching Nikola Zrinski and wrote the best English language book on the Siege of Sziget and could contribute much.
On another point, is there a way to change an article title?
I would like to change the draft "1544: Battle of Konjščina" to "Battle of Konjščina (1544)" but can't figure out how. Thank you.
ZidarZ (
talk)
20:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
One more question, if I may ask.
I shared my draft for Battle of Somlyo (1543) on September 14.
BTW: it is difficult to have respect for Miki Filigranski because he told me that for stuff I try to write about Nikola Zrinski and events during the 1500s that books written in the 1500s and 1600s lack credibility because these primary sources are " outdated sources". To me, that is absurd.
ZidarZ (
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22:12, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm sorry, I don't have the time to get involved in the specifics of a content dispute, I'm just trying to make sure that you all don't argue so much that you get blocked. If you read the docs there's links to noticeboards where other volunteers can help you figure that out. --
Joy (
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11:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)reply
This is not part of a content dispute. As you can see two articles are still drafts and I asked you for feedback. I assume you are a good person to ask for feedback since you are the #1 dude in Project Croatia.
ZidarZ (
talk)
12:00, 26 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I don't believe that description is accurate :) since it's the English-language encyclopedia you can get feedback from a number of people who may be interested, regardless of WikiProject Croatia (though that is a decent place to start). --
Joy (
talk)
13:17, 26 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Your recent article submission to
Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Qcne was:
This submission provides insufficient
context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please see the
guide to writing better articles for information on how to better format your submission.
The comment the reviewer left was:
Potentially a notable article but it is incomprehensible to readers not familiar with the topic. Who are the people, where are they fighting, why, etc.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to
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Hello, ZidarZ!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Qcne(talk)23:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)reply