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You wrote "there's already a density-related map, and also that doesn't have any labeling on it or a source". Where, i didn't see? LandRussia ( talk) 09:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
LandRussia, the UK one isn't from 2017 because there was no government survey/census in 2017. There was a 2017 population estimate, but that isn't what is stated. Vermont ( talk) 10:21, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject 2010 US Census. Legobot ( talk) 04:24, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Vermont
I wasn't sure how I broke BLP rules by putting the Sackler lecture controversy onto this webpage? It was fully cited, I thought. Was the problem that the level of citation was still insufficient? I can provide plenty more. What level of evidence would you like to see? Also I see similar edits to Leonardo Lopez Lujan.
The Sackler philanthropy is attracting increasing concern. I can understand your wish to avoid personal bias and I am happy to take advice on how to make this more neutral. But I think the Sackler issue is something that should be flagged on the pages of those who are supporting the Sackler lecture series.
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okay will do, thanks for quick response and guidance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.54.101 ( talk) 22:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello Vermont, all the claims made in the article are supported by the sources referenced. I can't remeber what was said about the original research and essay-like writing, is that what I need to improve? Declan Stack ( talk) 00:07, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Saudi Arabia. Legobot ( talk) 04:25, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Portals have passed the 4,000 mark.
Here's a list of portals created since the last issue
Please inspect these portals, report problems or suggest improvements at WT:WPPORTD, or develop them further (see below). Thank you.
There is still lots to do...
There are many subject gaps that need to be filled. This can be done by creating new portals, or by adding Selected article sections to existing portals. To create a new portal, simply place {{subst:Basic portal start page}}
on an empty portal page, and click "Preview". If the portal is complete, click "Save". After you try it, come share your experience and excitement at
WT:WPPORTD.
Each new portal is just a starting point. Each portal of the new design can be further developed by:
Besides the new portals, there are still about 1200 portals of the old design that need to be converted to the new design.
Many portals need to be de-orphaned, by placing links to them (in the See also section of the corresponding root articles, at the bottom of the corresponding navigation footer templates, and on the corresponding category pages).
Many of the new portals still need to be listed at Portal:Contents/Portals.
Bugs keep popping up in portals. These need to be tracked down and reported at WT:WPPORTD.
Tools are needed to make developing and maintaining portals quicker and easier.
Dreaming up new features and capabilities. Innovation needs to continue, to design the portal of tomorrow, and the portal development-maintenance-system of the future. Automation!
So, if you find yourself with a little (or a lot) of free time, pick an area (or more) above and...
...dive in! — The Transhumanist 07:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Give a hearty welcome to AmericanAir88, who has adopted working on portals as one of his main purposes on Wikipedia. So far, he has created the following portals:
Way to go!
Evad disappeared from Wikipedia on October 18.
He has been, and will continue to be, sorely missed.
Hopefully, he is okay, on a Caribbean cruise or something.
Portals of the old design, are slowly but surely being converted to the new single-page design.
One factor that has slowed things down is that for many sections, the section header call and section contents call are integrated into a template and buried in a lua module, locking them in on each portal. They have been that way for years.
This means that these sections can't be directly edited like the other sections on the same portal. So, search/replaces affect all the sections except those. So, upgrading headers on these portals, for example, misses the integrated sections and inadvertently results in 2 different header colors.
Before we can continue with the upgrade of these portals, the headers and section contents calls need to be restored to each portal, so that those can be edited in concert with the other sections on the portal, and worked on independently of each other.
This is underway, with a solution implemented on about 1/4 of the affected portals so far. Around 300 of them. The remaining 900 should be done within a couple weeks or so.
We now have banner-shaped pictures included in the introduction sections of 180 portals. The rarity of such pictures has made it difficult to find suitably narrow images for display across the tops of portals.
We have a solution for this, courtesy of FR30799386...
Most pictures are not banner-shaped. But, you can still use them as banners. Here's how:
{{Portal image banner|File:Blueberries .jpg |maxheight=120px |overflow=Hidden }}
Using both maxheight=120px
and overflow=Hidden
produces this:
There are now 4,140 portals, with more being created almost daily. Prior to this project's reboot, portals were created at about the rate of 80 per year. Since April of this year, we've created about 2,600 new portals, or 32.5 years' worth at the old rate.
Of those new portals, about 3/4 of them need links leading to them. Almost all of them are linked to from the category system, but they still need links in article see also sections, at the bottom of navigation templates, and on the main portals list at Portal:Contents/Portals.
Of the 1500 portals created before the reboot, about 300 have been completely converted to the new design so far. About 1100 more have been partially converted, with intros, image slideshows, and associated wikimedia sections getting the most attention.
Discussion has resumed on the portal guidelines.
See ya round the portal system! — The Transhumanist 11:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
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If you look at the userpage of the account, it's pretty clear.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 20:44, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Vermont, Regarding the subject of copyright violation, I have initiated a Dispute Resolution. Please visit the Dispute Resolution Notice Board, and provide a statement. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#User_talk:MichaelPeiper0331
Thank you, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelPeiper0331 ( talk • contribs) 00:22, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Vermont, I requested Mz7 to train me but he said that he is busy now he can be available in the end of December. Can you enroll me as your student. Denim11 ( talk) 09:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Ok Vermont then I shall wait till December for Mz7. Denim11 ( talk) 12:12, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
There are now 4,180 portals.
Will we break 5,000 by the end of the year?
I know we can. But, that is up to you!
( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}}
or
{{subst:bpsp}}
)
Hello everyone! Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice (if it's occurring in your area of the world), and thanks for your work in maintaining, improving, and expanding portals. Cheers, — The Transhumanist 06:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
The following portals have been created since the last issue:
Keep 'em coming!
By the way, the above list was generated using this Petscan query. It can be easily modified by changing the date. The data page (under the Output tab) also has options for receiving the data in CSV or tabbed format, which some operating systems automatically load into a spreadsheet program for ease of use, such as copying and pasting the desired column (like page names).
We'll keep it short this issue.
Expect a flood next time. Or the one after that.
Cheerio, — The Transhumanist 07:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I would like to enroll in your counter vandalism training. A 10 fireplane ( talk) 00:06, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for restoring the picture of Jim Parsley and his children. Another editor came in afterward and cropped out the children. Was this done in order to comply with wikipedia rules? The children wanted their pictures or at least their names to be included in the bio - but I do not know the rules around this. thanks again 108.48.40.53 ( talk) 23:03, 27 November 2018 (UTC)Robert Barrett 108.48.40.53 ( talk) 23:03, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your response and for fixing the one picture. I am the source of the childrens' names as one of them - Becky - is my wife so I don't know the proper way to source that. Jim is Becky's brother (he was in the top picture). These two are the only biological children of James Parsley. He was married several times and so all of that was intentionally left out by me including the most recent marriage to Judy whose daughter Kelly is the one who made changes to include her family and delete the biological children. That change was undone by someone - I don't know who. I assume Kelly will do it again if and when she becomes aware of this latest activity. In my original article I was keeping it simple by only including the two biological children. This was my first attempt at authoring a wikipedia article so I do not know all of the rules and guidelines. Thanks again for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.204.16.83 ( talk) 15:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you ))))) MichaelPeiper0331 ( talk) 01:24, 29 November 2018 (UTC) |
Hi, Vermont. The draft page for Junglee Pictures was declined due to its promotional tone and puffery. I've recently given it a copy-edit to remove such language, and would appreciate it if you could move it to mainspace. Cheers! Krimuk2.0 ( talk) 07:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Nominations for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards are open until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2018. Why don't you nominate the editors who you believe have made a real difference to the project in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 02:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Vermont, Please delete the page due to legal threats/trademark issues
/info/en/?search=Hackers.mu Wedgeantilles0 ( talk) 11:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Owner of trademark is threatening to legally sue the use of "hackers.mu" by wikipedia contributors based in Mauritius where the trademark was registered. Wedgeantilles0 ( talk) 12:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
I have already informed the legal department of wikipedia regarding the legal threats Wedgeantilles0 ( talk) 13:48, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I would like to continue my CVAU training. I'm sorry that I had no activity for quite a while. I have been super busy for a while now. I wont be able to be on every day, but I will try to be on at least a few times a week. Thanks! GreyPage ( talk) 00:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Also, what is the chat system you use for CVAU training? I changed computers, and I lost the bookmark. GreyPage ( talk) 00:21, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
yes, Thanks GreyPage ( talk) 00:31, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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Could you train me in Counter Vandalism, I see you have your name on the Counter Vandalism page. Thank you. Pablothepenguin ( talk) 19:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Vermont:
Sorry about the crap typing. Pablothepenguin ( talk) 19:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
I saw you name in Counter Vandalism Unit, your the only one with open slots, however I live in california which is in the PST time zone. Is this an issue? Thanks you. Nithin Danday! ( talk) 05:29, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
I know that I am a little late to the party, but can you train me in the Counter Vandalism? Thank you. XtHybrid ( talk) 15:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello Vermont. I see that you are one of the trainers for the [ Unit]. I am interested in joining the academy and being trained in fighting vandalism. Would you be able to help me with this? Sei Noelle ( talk) 00:26, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
I was wondering, do you think we should hold off on more training until the stewards see my notice on Meta and resolve it? Or continue with the course? I'd like to keep going, but I thought I would see what you thought. Sei Noelle ( talk) 14:09, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you for undoing Tsumikiria's revert of my addition to the Ocasio-Cortez page. Tsumikiria's given reason for removing my content seemed to boil down to his having anti-Semitic beliefs. Well, he's back at it, and my very lousy computer skills make me a poor candidate to respond appropriately to him. (I still haven't mastered the fine art of reversion, really.) Can to please return to the Ocasio-Cortez page and add the information back in? Perhaps ask Tsumikiria not to use anti-Semitism as a basis for editing as well?
Thank you, Vcuttolo ( talk) 18:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
"we know Israeli media criticize anyone criticizing israel" (sic)
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Last issue, I mentioned there would be a flood, and so, here it is...
We now have 4,620 portals.
And the race to pass 5,000 by year's end is on...
Can we make it?
The New Year, and the 5,001st portal, await.
( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}}
or
{{subst:bpsp}}
)
After disappearing in mid-thread, Evad37 has returned from a longer than expected wikibreak.
Be sure to welcome him back.
User:FR30799386 is working on making {{ Portal image banner}} even better by enabling it to chop the top off an image as well as the bottom.
Many pictures aren't suitable for banners because they are too tall. Therefor, User:FR30799386 added cropping to this template, so that an editor could specify part of a picture to be used rather than the whole thing.
Work has begun on upgrading Wikipedia's flagship portals (those listed at the top of the Main page).
So far, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, and Portal:Technology have been revamped. Of course, you are welcome to improve them further.
Work continues on the other five. Feel free to join in on the fun.
In place of many missing portals, there is a redirect that leads to "the next best topic", such as a parent topic.
Most of these were created before we had the tools to easily create portals (they used to take 6 hours or more to create, because it was all done manually). Rather than leave a portal link red, some editors thought it was best that those titles led somewhere.
The subjects that have sufficient coverage should have their own portals rather than a redirect to some other subject.
Unfortunately, being blue like all other live links, redirects are harder to spot than redlinks.
To spot redirects easily, you can make them all appear green.
And I'll see you next issue.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 08:15, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Before, we could only cut off the bottom of pics.
User:FR30799386 has pulled it off, and made the upgrade to {{ Portal image banner}}...
So, this:
Becomes this:
Here's the code for the above banner:
{{Portal image banner|File:American Falls from Canadian side in winter.jpg | [[Niagara falls]], from the Canadian side |maxheight=175px |overflow=Hidden|croptop=10}}
To see it employed in a portal, check out Portal:Niagara Falls.
We were racing against time to create 5,000 portals by the end of the year (just for the heck of it).
We made it. We've passed the 5,000 portals mark, with time to spare!
And the 5,000th portal is Portal:Major League Baseball, by Happypillsjr.
Congratulations!
The 10,000th portal mark. But...
...there is plenty else to do in addition to building new portals:
And whatever else you can dream up.
But most of all, have a...
Vermont, thank you for your contributions to the Portals Project, and have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 12:11, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Vermont
I imagine you will remember the debate we had at the end of last year about Norman Hammond webpage. I wondered if I could ask you to review your decision to remove all mention of the Sackler lecture from his webpage. As you will see in the following link, this named lecture is ongoing and high profile. https://www.mcdonald.cam.ac.uk/events/sackler5
I understand you have to be very careful with BLP pages and generally give the benefit of the doubt to the subject of the website. But Wikipedia BLP pages shouldnt just be marketing pages or hagiography for individuals. Sackler philanthropy is an important and growing issue. I am sure you will have seen the reports of mass litigation which has emerged since we last discussed this. ( https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/19/sackler-family-members-face-mass-litigation-criminal-investigations-over-opioids-crisis).
Professor Hammond is clearly embarrassed by his links to the Sackler family and is very keen for all mentions to be removed from his website. But embarrassment is not sufficient reason to remove a factual statement on a BLP website. It is incontestable that there is a named lecture in his honor in Boston and another one in Cambridge. Other similar named Sackler lecturers are listed in Wikipedia so I am not sure why Norman Hammond objects so strongly to a simple statement of fact on his website. I would be grateful if you could review the decision to remove the Sackler sentence, and perhaps let me know if there is an appeal process.
207.37.196.254 ( talk) 16:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Okay thanks will do this. bw L — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.37.196.254 ( talk) 16:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Dolotta ( talk) 14:04, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...
A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:
DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as with a section starter script and/or portal builder script.
There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.
DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.
Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.
Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).
Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 09:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
I like to learn how to revert vandalism. I currently use Twinkle to do the job. I would like to learn new techniques when I revert vandalism. Can I become a student of yours? Mstrojny ( talk) 11:57, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
For a visually intensive portal, see Portal:Hummingbirds.
If you find any other portals that stand out, please send me the links so I can include them in the next issue. Thank you.
There are about 1100 portals left in the old style, with subpages and static excerpts. As those are very labor intensive to maintain (because their maintenance is manual), all those except the ones with active maintainers (about 100) are slated for upgrade = approximately 1000. We started with 1500, and so over a quarter of them have been processed so far. That's good, but at this rate, conversion will take another 3 years. So, some automation (AWB?) is in order. We just need to keep at it, and push down on the gas pedal a bit harder.
You can find the old-style portals with an insource search of "box portal skeleton".
Speaking of upgrades...
The following portals are listed in the header at the top of Wikipedia's Main Page, and get far more traffic than all other portals:
Of those, all but one have been revamped to an automated self-updating single-page design.
The remaining one, Portal:Mathematics has manual maintainers, and has been partially upgraded.
As these are our flagship fleet, they need to be kept in top-notch condition.
Check 'em out, and improve them if you can.
And be sure they are on your watchlist.
Keep 'em coming!
As you know, thousands of the new portals are orphans, that is, having no links to them from article space. For all practical purposes, that means they are not part of the encyclopedia yet, and readers will be unlikely to find them.
What is needed are links to these portals from the See also sections of the corresponding root articles.
Dreamy Jazz to the rescue...
Dreamy Jazz has created a bot to place the corresponding category link to the end of each portal (if it is missing), and place a link to each portal in the See also section of the corresponding root articles.
That bot, named User:Dreamy Jazz Bot, is currently in its trial period performing the above described edits!
To take a look at the edits it has made so far, see Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz_Bot.
It shouldn't be long before the bot is processing the entire set of new portals.
Good news indeed.
Way to go, Dreamy Jazz!
That's all I have to report this time around.
No doubt there will be more to tell soon.
Until then, — The Transhumanist 13:17, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi! Welcome to the new reply-link newsletter, which I made because the ol' list on the reply-link talk page was unwieldy. In case you haven't been following development recently, I've sent out some new updates that should let it reply basically anywhere, even in transcluded pages or under hatted discussions (two locations people have been wanting for a while). Reliability has also gone way up, as I've implemented a couple of sanity checks that help prevent the script from responding to the wrong message. Unfortunately, that means the script fails a bit more often. Anyway, try it out if you haven't done so in a while, and let me know what you think! I always appreciate feature requests or bug reports on the talk page. Happy replying! ( Signup list/Unsubscribe) MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 02:23, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Here's a quicky status report:
But of course, there has been more going on than just that...
Dreamy Jazz Bot has been approved and is now up and running.
What it does is places missing links to orphaned portals. It places a link in the See also section of the corresponding root article, and it puts one at the top of the corresponding category page.
We have thousands of new portals that have yet to be added to the encyclopedia proper, just waiting to go live.
When they do go live, over the coming days or weeks, due to Dreamy Jazz Bot, it will be like an explosion of new portals on the scene. We should expect an increase in awareness and interest in the portals project. Perhaps even new participants.
Get ready...
Get set...
Go!
User:Emoteplump, a recent contributor to the portals project, was discovered to be a sockpuppet account of an indefinitely blocked user.
When that happens, admins endeavor to eradicate everything the editor contributed. This aftermath has left a wake of destruction throughout the portals department, again.
The following portals which have been speedy deleted, are in the process of being re-created. Please feel free to help to turn these blue again:
And the corresponding talk pages:
Until next time, — The Transhumanist 09:06, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
I was right. It was User:Alec Smithson. GMG talk 17:49, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, Could you please look at Draft:Abbey of Saints Cornelius and Cyprian to see whether could be a proper article again. It is an almost complete translation of the lead of the French WP on the topic; the French and Dutch articles on the subject are good evidence of notability.-- Johnsoniensis ( talk) 10:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Where we are at:
You might be familiar with the Ref desks, by their link on every new portal. They are a place you can go to ask volunteers almost any knowledge-related question, and have been a feature of Wikipedia since August of 2005 (or perhaps earlier). They were linked to from portals in an effort to improve their visibility, and to provide a bridge from the encyclopedia proper to project space (the Wikipedia community).
Well, somebody proposed that we get rid of them, and the community decided that that was not going to happen. Thank you for defending the Ref desks!
Here's a link to the dramatic discussion:
The wake of disruption left by Emoteplump and the admins who reverted many (but not all) of his/her edits is still undergoing cleanup. We could use all the help we can get on this task...
Almost all of the speedy deleted portals have been rebuilt from scratch.
For the portals he/she restarted (many of which were done mistakenly, overwriting restarts and further development that had already been done), and/or tagged as the maintainer, see https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Emoteplump&oldid=881568794#Additional_Portals_under_my_watch
We're at 5,705 portals and counting.
Prior to 2018, for the previous 14 years, portal creation was at about 80 portals per year on average. We did over 3 times that in just the past 9 days. At this rate, we'll hit the 10,000 portal mark in 5 months. But, I'm sure we can do it sooner than that.
There are 5 drives for portal development:
Let's take a closer look at these...
Portal creation, for subjects that happen to have the necessary support structures already in place, is down to about a minute per portal. The creation part, which is automated, takes about 10 seconds. The other 50 seconds is taken up by manual activities, such as finding candidate subjects, inspecting generated portals, and selecting the portal creation template to be used according to the resources available. Tools are under development to automate these activities as much as possible, to pare portal creation time down even more. Ten seconds each is the goal.
Eventually, we are going to run out of navigation templates to base portals off of. Though there are still thousands to go. But, when they do run out, we'll need an easy way to create more. A nav footer creation script.
Meanwhile, other resources are being explored and developed, such as categories, and methods to harvest the links they contain.
The portal collection is growing, not only by the addition of new portals, but by further developing the ones we already have, by...
More features will be added as we dream them up and design them. So, don't be shy, make a wish.
By far the hardest and most time-consuming task we have been working on is updating the old portals, the very reason we revamped this WikiProject in the first place.
There are two approaches here:
Or "portal deorphanization"...
Dreamy Jazz Bot is purring along.
And a tool in the form of a script is under development for linking to portals at the time they are created, or shortly thereafter.
See below...
Saved portals, are portals with a saved page.
What is the next stage in the evolutionary progression?
Quantum portals.
What are quantum portals?
Portals that come into existence when you click on the portal button, and which disappear when you leave the page.
Or, as Pbsouthwood put it:
...portals that exist only as a probability function (algorithm) until you collapse the wave form by observing through the portal button (run the script), and disappear again after use...
Introducing...
Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals (see it's talk page).
...'til next time, — The Transhumanist 10:28, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
@ Vermont: Hi, it has been a little awhile, and I'm sorry about that. Hopefully we're both catched up. This week, I intend to pick back up my work here.
I wanted to take my time and understand MOS so I could contribute better.
Sincerely, User: Zanygenius( talk page) 15:38, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, i want you to train me, please. I want to have more experience reverting vandalism edits.
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All Portals closed at WP:MfD during 2019
Grouped Nominations total 127 Portals:
Individual Nominations:
Related WikiProject:
(Attribution: Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Portal MfD Results)
This was a spin-off from WikiProject Portals, for the purpose of developing zero-page portals (portals generated on-the-screen at the push of a button, with no stored pages).
It has been merged back into WikiProject Portals. In the MfD the vote was "demote". See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals.
At WP:VPR, mass creation of Portals using semi-automated tools has been put on hold until clearer community consensus is established.
See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Hiatus on mass creation of Portals.
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Proposal 1: Interim Topic-Ban on New Portals.
Keep on keepin' on. — The Transhumanist 09:29, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi Vermont, I have been trying to catch everything up latley and I noticed that you wrote about my signature (unfortunately I was off of Wikipedia at the time) so today I fixed it. (See below) Sincerely, Zanygenius( talk to me!)( email me!) 15:09, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm currently working on projects like the TAFI and March 2019 North American blizzard. Although I have begun a draft. I might need help on the draft.Thanks for asking, Zanygenius( talk to me!)( email me!) 22:32, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi @ Vermont:, the calendar is getting closer to April first, and it has been getting me thinking about WP:FOOLS, and maybe getting in on it. However, I want to be cautious so that I can maintain a good account standing so I can still contribute helpfully. If I were to do any jokes, I would likely pretend to warn someone that they vandalized Wikipedia, or perhaps play around with Infinite Loop. Still, I don't want to go over the top. What do you think? Thank you, Zanygenius( talk to me!)( email me!) 14:06, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Vermont the next few TAFI's are " Story of the Negro" April 8th, " Dairy Product" April 15th. Should I work on either of these, or would they not be within my range, like Gym? Zanygenius( talk to me!)( email me!) 18:17, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hi. I now have 2 Vermont's on Vikidia. I have Vermont and ActualVermont. For the sake clarity can you please tell me which one is you? One is claiming the other is a sock of JaySmith123. Thanks. Dane| Geld 19:14, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Implementation of the new portal design has been culled back almost completely, and the cull is still ongoing. The cull has also affected portals that existed before the development of the automated design.
Some of the reasons for the purge are:
Most of the deletions have been made without prejudice to recreation of curated portals, so that approval does not need to be sought at Deletion Review in those cases.
In addition to new portals being deleted, most of the portals that were converted to an automated design have been reverted.
Which puts us back to portals with manually selected content, that need to be maintained by hand, for the most part, for the time being, and back facing some of the same problems we had when we were at this crossroads before:
These and other concepts require further discussion. See you at WT:POG.
However, after the purge/reversion is completed, some of the single-page portals might be left, due to having acceptable characteristics (their design varied some). If so, then those could possibly be used as a model to convert and/or build more, after the discussions on portal creation and design guidelines have reached a community consensus on what is and is not acceptable for a portal.
See you at WT:POG.
A major theme in the deletion discussions was the need for portals to be curated, that is, each one having a dedicated maintainer.
There are currently around 100 curated portals. Based on the predominant reasoning at MfD, it seems likely that all the other portals may be subject to deletion.
See you at WT:POG.
An observation and argument that arose again and again during the WP:ENDPORTALS RfC and the ongoing deletion drive of {{ bpsp}} default portals, was that portals simply do not get much traffic. Typically, they get a tiny fraction of what the corresponding like-titled articles get.
And while this isn't generally considered a good rationale for creation or deletion of articles, portals are not articles, and portal critics insist that traffic is a key factor in the utility of portals.
The implication is that portals won't be seen much, so wouldn't it be better to develop pages that are?
And since such development isn't limited to editing, almost anything is possible. If we can't bring readers to portals, we could bring portal features, or even better features, to the readers (i.e., to articles)...
An approach that has received some brainstorming is "quantum portals", meaning portals generated on-the-fly and presented directly on the view screen without any saved portal pages. This could be done by script or as a MediaWiki program feature, but would initially be done by script. The main benefits of this is that it would be opt-in (only those who wanted it would install it), and the resultant generated pages wouldn't be saved, so that there wouldn't be anything to maintain except the script itself.
Another approach would be to focus on implementing specific features independently, and provide them somewhere highly visible in a non-portal presentation context (that is, on a page that wasn't a portal that has lots of traffic, i.e., articles). Such as inserted directly into an article's HTML, as a pop-up there, or as a temporary page. There are scripts that use these approaches (providing unrelated features), and so these approaches have been proven to be feasible.
What kind of features could this be done with?
The various components of the automated portal design are transcluded excerpts, news, did you know, image slideshows, excerpt slideshows, and so on.
Some of the features, such as navigation footers and links to sister projects are already included on article pages. And some already have interface counterparts (such as image slideshows). Some of the rest may be able to be integrated directly via script, but may need further development before they are perfected. Fortunately, scripts are used on an opt-in basis, and therefore wouldn't affect readers-in-general and editors-at-large during the development process (except for those who wanted to be beta testers and installed the scripts).
The development of such scripts falls under the scope of the Javascript-WikiProject/Userscript-department, and will likely be listed on Wikipedia:User scripts/List when completed enough for beta-testing. Be sure to watchlist that page.
Being curated. At least for the time being.
New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow). Future features could also overlap portal features, until there is nothing that portals provide that isn't provided elsewhere or as part of Wikipedia's interface.
But, that may be a ways off. Perhaps months or years. It depends on how rapidly programmers develop them.
The features of Wikipedia and its articles will continue to evolve, even if Portals go by the wayside. Most, if not all of portals' functionality, or functions very similar, will likely be made available in some form or other.
And who knows what else?
No worries.
Until next issue... — The Transhumanist 00:54, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for your work to improve Portal:Vermont. North America 1000 08:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC) |
You don't know me, but I was genuinely upset to read your message on my talk page. I'm sure you sent in good faith but I feel hurt, and combined with what else is going on my life make me want to just walk away from the project; however I have a GA review to finish. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:20, 20 July 2019 (UTC)