It seems that you have developed a habit of making statements along the lines of many sources say, most academics say, or similar with no evidence to support same. I believe editor Iskandar has mentioned this as well. The latest case being at 2023 East Jerusalem synagogue shooting where it was trivial to disprove your edit summary "most sources describe Neve Ya'akov as a Jewish area of East Jerusalem (the term "settlement" is used by Al-Jazeera only, and "neighborhood" by Israeli media)".
Please don't do this. Selfstudier ( talk) 11:38, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Tombah. You've 'restored' things twice today, as noted in your edit summaries, in two separate edits. This is two reverts, within 24 hours, again. You know what you need to do. Please stop making this something that you need to be reminded of. Iskandar323 ( talk) 15:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
On 12 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Khirbet Kurkush, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that archeologists disagree about whether the ancient necropolis discovered in Khirbet Kurkush (tomb pictured) was used by Jews, Samaritans or pagans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Khirbet Kurkush. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Khirbet Kurkush), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Please clean up the mistakes you have inserted about people paying Jizya tax in the Sanjak Nablus in 1596. (How on earth do you get a wholly Muslim popualtion to pay Jizya??) Again, please read Hütteroth and Abdulfattah, 1977, p.74, which explains it, Huldra ( talk) 22:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
why did you remove the tag in your blanket revert? nableezy - 07:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Though there are (of course) no rules against using non-English sources on en.wp, could you at least give the author-names in English? Like at Aboud: It looks as if the author-list of reference 7 is pretty much the same as in reference 6? Indeed, it looks as if the subject is similar, just that the English source is from 2020, while the Hebrew source is from 2017? Huldra ( talk) 23:32, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Do you intend to clean up these articles? (Ie, get the author-names in English as this is -surprise, surprise - English Wikipedia) Huldra ( talk) 21:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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These edits [1] and [2], obscuring the line between the history of the (most recently) Palestinian town of Isdud (Tel Ashdod) and the neighboring but separate modern Israeli city of Ashdod, is a 1RR violation. Please self revert.
Note previous times we have discussed the same at #/Archive_2#1RR and #/Archive_2#1RR_2. Onceinawhile ( talk) 07:08, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
"On Wikipedia, reverting means undoing or otherwise negating the effects of one or more edits, which results in the page (or a part of it) being restored to a previous version."The first edit you made was 100% a revert. Many editors have been blocked for misunderstanding this.
"...that the constant point-scoring and truth-bending that is done in order to delegitimize a nation cease"is a very unhealthy mindset to hold when editing in this project. We are working together, many editors with differing perspectives. We must be able to empathize with each other if we are to have a healthy editing relationship. Your comment implies you do not understand the mentality of those editors with whom you disagree, because it is absolutely not what you seem to think it is. Onceinawhile ( talk) 20:53, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
This user is Wikipedia:Status quo stonewalling and abusing 1RR again at Plan Dalet. Diffs— 1 and 2. إيان ( talk) 16:39, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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For expanding the history section of the Jews page. I noticed how incomplete the section was back in 2019, and brought it up on the talk page. No one was able to fix the issue, and though I tried too, it was entirely beyond me. Thank you for addressing this issue at last! — Ganesha811 ( talk) 22:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC) |
Hi. I see in a recent addition to Second Temple period you included material from a webpage that is available under a compatible Creative Commons Licence. That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. It's also required under the terms of the license. I've added the attribution for this particular instance. Please make sure that you follow this licensing requirement when copying from compatibly-licensed material in the future. — Diannaa ( talk) 20:15, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
On 13 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Khirbet Kheibar, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that based on 19th-century local traditions and name preservation, it has been suggested that the archaeological site of Khirbet Kheibar was once inhabited by Jews expelled from Khaybar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Khirbet Kheibar. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Khirbet Kheibar), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi, in this edit to Jews you introduced an {{sfn}} reference to "Lipiński 2020 p=94" but did not define the source. This means that nobody can look up the reference, and adds the article to Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. If you could fix this that would be great. DuncanHill ( talk) 16:53, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your thank on my edit for Jordan, changing "Palestinian West Bank" to "West Bank" in the lead. I was engaged in a dispute with another editor about this (see talk page). After posting an argument without response for 24 hours, I edited the article to reflect my side. With your thank, we now have established consensus for "West Bank." I highly suggest watching the talk page so you can assert our view on this dispute.
I don't believe this is a violation of canvassing, considering your thank clearly indicated you supported my edit. If it is, please don't hesistate to let me know.
Thanks, RomanHannibal ( talk) 16:14, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
I have advanced the dispute I initiated about the State of Palestine to WP:DRN. Your contributions would be very much appreciated. RomanHannibal ( talk) 19:52, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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Would you like some advice? nableezy - 04:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Well, first, Tamzin I hope you and everybody else gives us a bit of leeway to discuss things here and only here that would normally fall under the topic ban. And you should probably wait for her to say you can respond before you do. But there are a few issues with a. the actual basis of your complaints, and b. how you are complaining about them. To start off with, since you brought me up, I make no secret of my attempting to colloborate with Nishidani on a series of articles about the occupation of the West Bank and the violations of human rights of the Palestinians. That is a topic I am a. interested in, b. decently well read up on, c. have access to a plethora of sources about. This is a collaborative project. Ive asked people to help me on a number of topics. Jayjg is the author of a ton of featured articles on synagogues, so once upon a time I asked for his help on copyediting Al-Azhar Mosque. Robert Prazeus later noticed something I had gotten wrong on that page and later I offered to email him a specialist source I had been able to get a copy of through a university exchange. Thats what we do here, we collaborate. As long as it is above board and based on the interest of improving the encyclopedia there is nothing wrong with that. What is wrong are things like surreptitious notices to vote a certain way, or asking somebody to revert an edit for me because Im out of reverts, or informing people of discussions just because you know their politics. All of those things are attempting to disrupt the collaborative nature of the project, they are seeking to game the result. Do you really think the subject of deportations of Palestinians from the West Bank is not a "notable topic"? Do you think it has not received significant, sustained coverage in not just reliable sources, but if I were to restrict this only to peer-reviewed works or books published by academic publishers? Then why shouldnt we have an article on it? And why would my wanting to work with somebody on such an article be a problem?
As far as your "activist" claims, your jumping off point is that Zionism is legitimate and that Wikipedia apparently must uphold that. Whether or not something reflects positively or negatively on Zionism, on democracy, on capitalism, on communism, on whatever topic is not something that factors into whether or not we should include it. It simply does not matter if you are an avowed Zionist or an avowed anti-Zionist, what matters here is if your edits reflect the best sources and fairly and proportionately give those sources their due weight. If somebody is consistently using poor sources to argue a point that better sources dispute, then yes you have a complaint. But being upset that somebody documents some topic that reflects poorly on some ideology is not something that is going to be take seriously.
Next, you wrote to Tamzin the evidence I offered reveals that Wikipedia now has a serious balance issue. No, sorry, you did not offer any evidence. What you offered was innuendo and claims about a recent surge in Anti-Israeli articles. You did this Trumpian "now Im not calling anybody an activist here but somebody has gotta look in to the activism here". Do you think Land expropriation in the West Bank is not a notable topic? You think it is "anti-Israeli" to document human rights abuses against the Palestinians? You dont think it is "anti-Palestinian" to suppress such a topic? You think the legality of the occupation is not a topic that is the subject of scholarly work? Really? Is just documenting anything that Israel does in the occupation "anti-Israeli"? Does that mean Wikipedia should be pro-occupation? Do you think Wikipedia should be Zionist?
Once upon a time here there was a Palestinian editor here who went by Tiamut. There was an Israeli editor here who, and Im trying to be charitable here, used a significant amount of energy to mess with her. And in their final attempt to sanction Tiamut at AE, she responded with something I think you should reflect on. There is no doubt that Jaakobou is offended because his preferred ideology is being depicted in terms that are alien to soul. Too bad ... Zionism is alien to my soul, but I deal with it all the time in life and at Wikipedia. All of us have our own personal views. All of us are confronted with opposing ones. We're still supposed to collaborate and work towards those opposing views being given their due weight as determined by reliable sources. Ive said over and over I think youre smart and can be a fantastic editor. But you have to accept that your personal views are just that, personal, and that on a place as big as the internet youre own views are not going to just be accepted as the final word.
Finally, I once tried to demonstrate an editor was consistently POV-pushing, and to be honest I thought I did a bang up job of it. I tried to show how they would make opposing arguments based purely on POV, and that still did not get much traction. If you cannot prove your case you should not be making the accusation. You cant say I think whoever is a whatever and I think somebody should look in to it. No, you have to look into it yourself, and you have to prove the case so well that somebody can look at 500-1000 words and reach the same conclusion as you. nableezy - 13:53, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
I would say that editing Template:History of Israel is skirting the limits of your topic ban - I would stay away from any project elements that potentially entail modern political perspectives on history. Iskandar323 ( talk) 13:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Editing Origin of the Palestinians is a breach of tban Diff, please do not edit pages carrying the AI talk page template/AI edit notices. Thank you for your attention. Selfstudier ( talk) 14:59, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
The origin of the Palestinians falls under the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly construed, because it is a point of contention in ethnicity-based claims to the region. The politics of Israelis' and Palestinians' origins is what led to the initial AE thread here, after all. Prety much anything about the Palestinians, as a people, will fall under the TBAN, because basically everything about their existence is politicized as part of the conflict. (The same is partly true of Israelis as a people, but to a lesser extent. E.g. it would be possible—although not necessarily advisable—to edit about Israeli cinema without breaking the TBAN, while I don't think the same is true of Palestinian cinema, at least not for edits of any length.)
Topic bans are a hard thing to wrap one's head around, especially for topics like the Arab-Israeli conflict which cover the intersection of two topics, but not the union. Usually a first violation is a warning, and lots of people reach that point. So this is your logged warning: "the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly construed" extends to all content that is relevant to the conflict, even if explicitly only about one party to it. If it feels like that adds up to "Don't edit about Israel(is) or Palestin(e|ians) at all", well sadly that is often how people have to treat an ARBPIA TBAN, if they don't want to slip past a boundary. Which sucks, but Wikipedia admins can't do anything about the fact that so much of Israeli and Palestinian culture is politicized. My general advice to anyone with a TBAN is to treat any exceptions as "safety valves, not loopholes"—and I would say it's best to take the same view of Israel-but-not-explicitly-Palestine things and especially Palestine-but-not-explicitly-Israel things. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 20:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
I would ask once again that you not edit articles that carry the Arbpia/Ct talk page and edit notices as was done here. You may of course request edits at the talk page of these articles. Thank you. Selfstudier ( talk) 11:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
to make sure that all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed, might inadvertently be impacting the sense of trust and our collaborative efforts. If your intention is to suggest that I reconsider my involvement, there are alternative ways to communicate that sentiment. Tombah ( talk) 08:09, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Definitely not all of Jewish history or Israeli/Palestinian history fall under an ARBPIA topic ban. For instance, to pick some random examples, I don't think Solomon's Temple, Siege of Masada, or Siege of Jerusalem (1099) would, at least not in most cases. Same goes for contemporary Israeli figures with no connection to politics or the military. The problem that arises, though, is that, on any article with even the slightest connection to a topic, it's possible to say something that would still essentially be a "proxy war" for that topic. ... [T]he same issues that lead people to get topic-banned also, frankly, lead them to be bad judges of what would be a violation of the topic ban at the margins, which is why admins often say to act like you're topic-banned from a much larger area than you are, which I have my own version of with the "safety valves, not loopholes" line.-- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 19:38, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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