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I have been trying to find the editor that is inserting the "Molecular geometry info boxes." Perhaps it is you? I feel that you need to talk over these plans. Usually, for projects like this, editors consult other editors by describing ideas at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry. Where I come from, hybridisation is an old-fashioned and actively discouraged concept. Thus the boxes propagate bad information. Also the symmetry group is debatable in the way the boxes are set up. I understand that the goal is to say something useful, but I cant figure out the point. By consulting other editors, you are likely to get some ideas that will enhance your work.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 19:36, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I think the point is to provide an elementary summary at first-year (North American) level, but there is much room for improvement. I have made detailed suggestions at Talk:Octahedral molecular geometry for that case. If we can reach agreement for one geometry, then similar changes can be made to the others. Dirac66 ( talk) 02:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the message at my talk page. Congratulations on having so much technical knowledge. It just seems that you might be in over your head, and possibly over your teacher's head. I would ask your teacher to post the nature of the project on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry, and let the teacher deal with us. My guess is that other editors would give you some ideas if you post the box on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry. User:dirac66 posted some critiques at [ [1]]. It just turns out that the Chem pages have gotten pretty sophisticated. Many different types of compounds adopt the geometries that you are presenting, so one hybridization scheme is not going to work and, as we mentioned, the use of hybridisation is a tricky subject that most of us avoid. Symmetry point groups are tricky because chemists would refer to very unsymmetrical compounds as being octahedral, tetrahedral, etc. Also, it is helpful, or at least polite when you make edits, to write a summary. If you are looking for projects to prove yourself for a class, one idea is to write an article about a particular chemical that is not currently described in Wikipedia. A fertile source of chemicals are the higher (non-C1) freons. Many useful trialkylphosphines, say PEt3, and phosphate esters, say OP(OMe)3, merit articles.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 05:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh well...-- Smokefoot ( talk) 23:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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