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MOS thread on per cent
I've just noticed your Aspergers/autism user boxes. With respect, I think you are misreading the sense of the thread. Do you think Aspergers/autism might impact your ability to judge it? I strongly recommend you pause your mass edits until a clearer consensus emerges.
DeCausa (
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12:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I believe it does strongly affect my drive toward following it through to conclusion. But I am absolutely certain that in an encyclopaedic/formal literature context "per cent" is most definitely to be preferred. While it is admittedly a difficult task given the lack of an
English Academy, one can still draw conclusions from august and respected sources. I have not been able to find any sources which do explicitly say "percent" is acceptable, only instances of use.
๐๐ฑ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ท (
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12:16, 18 August 2023 (UTC)reply
One could stretch that position out to dismiss absolutely anything and say "color" and "windshield" are also acceptable. What I meant by sources was things such as style manuals; no BrE style manual I have found says "percent" is acceptable.
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12:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)reply
And yet people have pointed out on this talk page that it's in common use and in dictionaries, such as, e.g., the OED. But you've deleted that. Can you just stop this until a consensus - an actual consensus - emerges on the MOS page?!
Bastunฤฤกรกแธฮฒรกลโฎลญล!12:25, 18 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Stolitz, you need to stop before you get taken to ANI. You registered this account only 6 days ago and have made 2,200+ of these changes in that time. It's becoming disruptive in light of the lack of support for it at the MOS thread.
DeCausa (
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12:28, 18 August 2023 (UTC)reply
"Dogpile" you? Seriously? In Hiberno-English - cop on! It's two editors, raising legitimate concerns. Many more editors, experienced ones at that, have said to slow down, pause, wait until the debate that you started reaches a conclusion, but you're ploughing on regardless. You've gotten good advice above on the MOS page - I'd suggest listening.
Bastunฤฤกรกแธฮฒรกลโฎลญล!12:42, 18 August 2023 (UTC)reply
"The project was estimated at 100 million
lev, but went overbudget by 20 million lev.
"The project was estimated at 100,000,000
BGN, but went overbudget by 20,000,000 BGN
Clearly the first is better, so much so that it comes across a straw man! So two points to consider in your draft:
Guidance to address this point (name rather than code or abbreviation) should be in the name section, it is not a currency symbol issue.
It is always better to advise people what they should do than to tell them what they should not.
By the way, I'm surprised that you find the TLA currency codes unfamiliar, anybody who has needed to buy currency for a foreign holiday must have seen them.
I had thought that as I was trying to construct advice about where to and where not to use symbols/codes then the symbol section was appropriate. I am not sure how to format my request so that it slots into the "names" section instead of the "symbols" section.
Some currency codes are more equal than others: there aren't going to be many people familiar with all of them; one might be vaguely aware that the currency of, say, Cambodia, is the riel, but I do not consider it likely that they will be immediately familiar with "KHR" or "แ". I am not in favour of proscribing them in all circumstances, just in prose text.
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15:40, 22 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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I did wonder if you were the same person: I'm not convinced that you are TCG (I think I know his "fist" by now) but I'm not entirely convinced that you are not he either. It doesn't help that you have taken the same well-worn paths as his and appear to have rather more familiarity with how to use Wikipedia than the average newbie. If you are indeed an innocent bystander caught in the cross-fire, the specific part of the Guide that you need to read now is
WP:SOCKBLOCK. Best wishes. --
๐๐๐ฝ (
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10:51, 23 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Based on the request at UTRS appeal #77751, I took another look. With the new data in the logs, I'd have to say this is now between ย Possible and ย Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely). The technical data is, frankly, unlikely to result in anything clearer than this. Note that the block is based on a combination of technical data and behavioural matches and I agree, the behavioural evidence matches. I'll be declining the UTRS request as UTRS is not the appropriate forum here; unblock requests should be made on this talk page. I'm sorry I did not have better news. --
Yamla (
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15:21, 23 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I understand, would it be possible for me to let this lie for a few weeks or months and appeal again? I doubt filing another unblock request here so soon will be looked upon favourably. I am sure I can find something else to lose myself in to pass the time. I do hope my suggestions will at least offer a perspective for others.
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16:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I have to say that I am not surprised by the decision, because the behavioural evidence is really rather strong. If you do come back, I strongly advise that you stay away from anything to do with currencies (broadly construed), MOS changes, campaigns to enforce
WP:ENVAR (like "per cent"/"percent"), indeed anything even vaguely nationalistic or territorial.
WP:SOCKBLOCK advises months, not weeks. --
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12:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)reply