Per Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles, non- extended confirmed user can only make formal and concise edit request on talk page (which exact sentence you want to modify, provided with reliable source if it's a non-typo edit request, as opposed to comment that a big chunk of a paragraph doesn't meet your expectation). -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk · contri.) 01:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Would this be remedied if I made separate chains for each specific sentence edit request? Scienceturtle1 ( talk) 01:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please advise as relevant experts in the field at present find content in the lead to be incorrect; thus regardless of how I make the edit request it is important that it is made and not masked on technical grounds. Scienceturtle1 ( talk) 01:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- And I do quote the exact lines I recommend changing; it is not true that I just state the lead isn't up to par
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
01:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- WP:edit request has already properly explained how an edit request should be submitted on talk page. For Israel-Palestine articles which are under extended protection, your edit request should include a {{ Edit extended-protected}} template at the beginning of each request section. Please follow the "Example" section detailed in the Edit extended-protected template doc carefully. -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk · contri.) 01:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will do so for each sentence of the lead at your recommendation.
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
01:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Again. Please don't make non-edit request comments on extended-protected talk page, like your very general discussion on the article direction. You only obtain that privilege after your account has passed the
extended confirmed user threshold. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
01:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good thanks!
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
02:32, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just want to remind you that until you have obtained the extended confirmed
user privilege, you're not supposed to engage in non-edit-request discussion in Israel-Palestine topic, including move request. I do appreciate your self-awareness that you made personal opinion on other editors unrelated to the article and self-reverted that part, but I would much more appreciate if you remove all your comments in non-edit-request sections. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
03:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Does this permit comments on other people's very specific edit requests? Please advise with link to rules if relevant. Thanks!
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
21:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- You are only allowed to comment on your own edit requests. If you are really eager to discuss, just wait patiently after the extended comfirmed user permissions has been granted. In the mean time, try to make constructive edits on articles unrelated to Israel-Palestine conflict, which allows you to get that permission quicker, so you don't look like you are here only for a
single purpose. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
21:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate it, thank you! It is just frustrating to see people like Unbandito write that "No informed person or source is suggesting that conditions in Gaza are reversing or are improved" when the first paragraph of the key findings of the IPC report states " In contrast with the assumptions made for the projection period (March – July 2024), the amount of food and non-food commodities allowed into the northern governorates increased. Additionally, the response in the nutrition, water sanitation and hygiene (WASH) and health sectors was scaled up. In this context, the available evidence does not indicate that Famine is currently occurring." However, I understand the need to wait to dispel this rampant misinformation, and will contribute more to articles in my field (statistics/biology). In the meantime I posted on their personal Talk page.
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
22:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have no interest in discussing the Israel-Palestine issue with you, but I would also want to inform you that, instructing like-minded editor who has the necessary privilege to edit Wikipedia on your behalf in order to evade the limitation of your own account is strictly prohibited. This is so-called
proxying and
meatpuppetry. Such action would likely result in an edit ban of your account. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
01:17, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is incredibly inappropriate for you to imply (although your wording was ambiguous) I am attempting to be proxied because I gently messaged a talk page with feedback... I am not and I would request you revert your comment or its wording.
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
01:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- My intention is to only make sure you're aware of the related policies which Wikipedia community doesn't take lightly. This is the common mistake which is unknown to most new users who ended up have their account banned, especially during ongoing volatile disputes like the Israel-Palestine conflict. If you want to have a fruitful experience of Wikipedia editing, this is one of the key policies you should familiarize with earlier than later. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
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contri.)
01:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for informing me of/threatening a policy I had no intention of violating. For future cases I suggest ensuring you are presenting welcoming behavior towards new users who are listening to you and seeking advice, although I actually really appreciate you helping out earlier catching me up with things so thank you. Scienceturtle1 ( talk) 02:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- My intention is to only make sure you're aware of the related policies which Wikipedia community doesn't take lightly. This is the common mistake which is unknown to most new users who ended up have their account banned, especially during ongoing volatile disputes like the Israel-Palestine conflict. If you want to have a fruitful experience of Wikipedia editing, this is one of the key policies you should familiarize with earlier than later. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
01:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is incredibly inappropriate for you to imply (although your wording was ambiguous) I am attempting to be proxied because I gently messaged a talk page with feedback... I am not and I would request you revert your comment or its wording.
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
01:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have no interest in discussing the Israel-Palestine issue with you, but I would also want to inform you that, instructing like-minded editor who has the necessary privilege to edit Wikipedia on your behalf in order to evade the limitation of your own account is strictly prohibited. This is so-called
proxying and
meatpuppetry. Such action would likely result in an edit ban of your account. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
01:17, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate it, thank you! It is just frustrating to see people like Unbandito write that "No informed person or source is suggesting that conditions in Gaza are reversing or are improved" when the first paragraph of the key findings of the IPC report states " In contrast with the assumptions made for the projection period (March – July 2024), the amount of food and non-food commodities allowed into the northern governorates increased. Additionally, the response in the nutrition, water sanitation and hygiene (WASH) and health sectors was scaled up. In this context, the available evidence does not indicate that Famine is currently occurring." However, I understand the need to wait to dispel this rampant misinformation, and will contribute more to articles in my field (statistics/biology). In the meantime I posted on their personal Talk page.
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
22:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- You are only allowed to comment on your own edit requests. If you are really eager to discuss, just wait patiently after the extended comfirmed user permissions has been granted. In the mean time, try to make constructive edits on articles unrelated to Israel-Palestine conflict, which allows you to get that permission quicker, so you don't look like you are here only for a
single purpose. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
21:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Does this permit comments on other people's very specific edit requests? Please advise with link to rules if relevant. Thanks!
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
21:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just want to remind you that until you have obtained the extended confirmed
user privilege, you're not supposed to engage in non-edit-request discussion in Israel-Palestine topic, including move request. I do appreciate your self-awareness that you made personal opinion on other editors unrelated to the article and self-reverted that part, but I would much more appreciate if you remove all your comments in non-edit-request sections. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
03:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good thanks!
Scienceturtle1 (
talk)
02:32, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Again. Please don't make non-edit request comments on extended-protected talk page, like your very general discussion on the article direction. You only obtain that privilege after your account has passed the
extended confirmed user threshold. --
Sameboat - 同舟 (
talk ·
contri.)
01:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Again you ignored the edit-request-only restriction by non ECU on Israel-Palestine conflict topic. I understand it is irresistible to you, but I hope you would respect our policies and step aside until you are granted the ECU permission. Another violation and I will report you to the administrator which could result in an edit ban of your account. -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk · contri.) 00:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Also because you have repeatedly ignored my edit-request-only on I-P topic warning, I would like you to declare that this account (Scienceturtle1) is only used by a single person instead of multiple entities. Unauthorized shared wiki account is strictly prohibited by our one person per one account policy. -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk · contri.) 00:51, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am one person. My repeated edits are because, as you said, respectively pointing out misinformation within my field to those who bear it in good faith can be irresistible to me; I was not planning to do it. This is my bad.
- It am sorry to be difficult - I understand you want to make sure the bureaucratic policy is enforced to its full extent against respectful talk page comments, even at the cost of truth and accuracy. I do understand the reason behind applications of the policy in other select contexts. I will try harder to avoid commenting there, understanding your seriousness. Scienceturtle1 ( talk) 01:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Please remember whenever you create a new topic on talk page, write down a comprehensive section title (subject) so your edit request doesn't mix up with the preceding unrelated section. -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk · contri.) 03:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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