That's the great thing about Wikipedia. You work on something and somebody else comes along and improves it further. And in the process, you learn something. Schwede6601:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)reply
For sure. The next question is when did MGA fall out of use? At the moment the article is a bit vague by saying "1860s". I wouldn't be surprised if it was linked to the end of the Provincial system - i.e. the General Assembly was made distinct from the provincial assemblies. --
LJ Holden01:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)reply
I vaguely remember that I wrote that part (could go back to the article history, I suppose) and had to keep it vague as I couldn't find a definite source. When I write articles that fall into that time, I do a lot of reading of Papers Past, and I think there is a transition areas in the 1860s when both terms were in use. It may well be that somebody decreed that we shall now call them MHRs, it's just that the various journalists didn't all immediately adopt it. End of provincial govt is too late, as the use of MHR had established itself earlier. A big political event in the previous decade was Parliament and the capital shifting from Auckland to Wellington; maybe it was that one. Schwede6601:49, 7 January 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi! I've seen you around on
The Beatles' articles... Would you consider becoming a member of
WikiProject The Beatles, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of The Beatles on Wikipedia? Please feel free to
join us.
Other :Project: Add {{
WikiProject The Beatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members and coordinate tasks. Enter articles
assessed as stubs onto this list, also list articles needing cleanup and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the
project log.
Thanks for the invite, but I was really just fixing up some Birthday Honours lists, and it looked useful to work on the famous four as part of that. Schwede6609:10, 7 January 2015 (UTC)reply
I've made a handful of maps for you, which are linked here. I haven't made the ones for the Dudley Creek, Styx, or Heathcote yet - the Dudley Creek article isn't written and I'm not sure of the course. My maps don't have enough info the accurately show the Styx, either, and the maps I've found for the Heathcote are different to the information in the article (they show its source above Hoon Hay and no connection with the Yaldhurst-Riccarton stream). Hope these three help, though!
Grutness...wha?12:10, 11 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Map showing the location of the Avon Heathcote Estuary
Map showing the location of Lyttelton Harbour
Map showing the location of the Avon River, Christchurch
Thanks heaps,
James. Could you import one of the Dudley Creek files that I sent you by email? If the format works, I would be quite happy to produce the file for the Heathcote and Styx. With respect to Lyttelton Harbour, if I were to email Benchill for a base map that didn't cut the harbour off, I suppose we'd have a slightly better map. I'm aware that Benchill hasn't been active in a couple of years; do you know any background? This is looking great! Schwede6618:58, 11 June 2014 (UTC)reply
I never got them! If you send them again I'll have a go at it. I don't know Benchill other than by his work here, so I've no idea what the story is with his inactivity.
Grutness...wha?00:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)reply
It is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article. The article will be reviewed to determine if there are any copyright issues.
If substantial content is duplicated and it is not
public domain or available under a compatible license, it will be deleted. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. You may use such publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. See our
copyright policy for further details. (If you own the copyright to the previously published content and wish to donate it, see
Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for the procedure.)
CorenSearchBot (
talk)
20:05, 13 June 2014 (UTC)reply
CorenSearchBot is correct, as I created the article around the material published with a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 New Zealand License. Does anybody know whether there is a way of indicating when sources have a compatible CC license? Schwede6620:09, 13 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Ok, will do. I've started with expanding
the article to get a better understanding. I've found a good map with all the relevant tributaries. Most of the upstream stuff is actually dry and just carries stormwater, as the springs are mostly in Canterbury Park. I went on an explore yesterday to see what is dry and what has permanent flow, but only got as far as
Aidanfield. Will have to do the rest next weekend. I think it would be worthwhile to differentiate on the map between permanent flow and stormwater channels. Schwede6619:21, 22 June 2014 (UTC)reply
You undid my revision to the
Mayor of Palmerston North page. I don't think the stuff about Jono Naylor needs to be there anymore, as he is no longer the current mayor. A new mayor was elected last night, Grant Smith. There's no reason he can't be added to the list of mayors table.
I thought that my
edit summary gave a detailed enough
rationale for the revert, but in case you missed it, here it is again: "I suggest you add to what is already there, and rephrase existing as necessary, rather than a wholesale delete" Obviously, Smith needed to be added to the table, but the important aspect was to first quickly restore the content that you had deleted; I didn't have the time at that stage to go about expanding the article (including the table) myself. As you might have seen, another editor then expanded the article in an appropriate way. I've since restructured the whole article, and it's now in a lot better shape than before. Schwede6617:54, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
The Fitzgeralds
Hi there. Could it be that Gerard and James are half-brothers? I see Catherine O'Brien his mother was described as the second wife of Gerard Fitzpatrick Snr so it was quite reasonable that James was just described as the youngest son of Gerard Snr and Catherine. In which case if Gerard senior married for a third time, Gerard Fitzgerald Jnr would be younger than James. Do you have / can you point to strong evidence that Gerard and James had the same father though?
Tmol42 (
talk)
20:08, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for looking into this. Half-brothers is entirely possible. Not sure whether you've had a look at the DNZB, but if not, here's what it says: "He was the youngest son of Gerald FitzGerald, landowner, of Kilminchy, Queen's County, Ireland, and his second wife, Catherine O'Brien." So if FitzGerald did marry again, this would be explained. Is a list of siblings provided? What was Gerard's mother's name? Yes, they are definitely brothers, as tons of contemporary sources use language like "Gerard George Fitzgerald, the brother of James Edward Fitzgerald, late auditor general". Schwede6620:58, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I have found a baptism record for a Gerard George Fitzgerald baptised 6 Jan 1834 in
Walcot, Bath. Father Gerard Fitzgerald and mother Emily Fitzgerald. Does this sound like him? If the right GGF Emily would be a third wife. If of interest(!) guess I need to track down a marriage and a maiden name for you. Saw the DNZB. As James left family home to work at British Museum before 1841 then no census return to find his siblings/ at home with Gerard.
Tmol42 (
talk)
21:24, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, that would be him as they were living in Bath at the time, and it also explains why all sources record 1834 as his birth year, when in fact he was born on 10 October 1832. At least, I'm assuming that those who organised his gravestone in the Timaru Cemetery, which does show his birth date, knew what they were doing. What is a good way of showing a baptism certificate as a ref? Schwede6621:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
The source is Ancestry licenced records from data obtained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints from original church records. For citing purposes the record is given as: Ancestry.com. England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. To which you need to add the specific data refs which is:- FHL Film Number: 1471170 Reference ID: item 1 p 1439. interesting if WP has a citing template for genealogy sources. If not we should perhaps propose one!
Tmol42 (
talk)
21:56, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
PS. Just found a copy of the Will and Probate for GGF. He gave all his estate to neice Geraldine Fitzgerald his brother James' daughter. Interested?
Tmol42 (
talk)
22:09, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Bear in mind the baptism is a transcription of the original record data not an image of the actual document, whereas the will could be displayed this way. Here's the url for this
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-25457-25590-50?cc=1865481 The page appears blank but the doc is hidden above the top margin, just grab page and pull down probate is first then will. There are around 10+ pages in the set.
Tmol42 (
talk)
22:34, 21 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I've spent a bit of time putting the Fitzgerald tree together. A couple of discoveries. First I am pretty sure Gerald Fitzgerald's third(?) wife Emily's family name was Gibbons. Clue was their youngest son was baptised in 1840 Henry Gibbons Fitzgerald. I then found a marriage registration for a Gerald Fitzgerald x Emily Gibbons for 9th November 1820. Interestingly, the location was Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire. I have also found that Emily Gibbons was born in Marylebone, Middlesex as was Emily Fitzgerald. Emily dies 23 Oct 1884 in Leckhampton.
Second if some citable evidence is needed that James Edward and Gerard George are half brothers then cite 5 - Cambridge Univ alumni record does provide it. Gerard's full brother Lucius H Fitzgerald mentioned there too was a leading barrister in the Inns of Court. There are other background details on the wider family/descendents if you are interested
Tmol42 (
talk)
22:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC).reply
Now found evidence it was Jane Machie who drowned (the 'Miss Kennedy' looks like journalist error at the time). Found ref to 'Jane Fitzgerald' and FEFs memorial talks of a Jane having drowned. Have amended plus added cites. Also no close or otherwise obvious connection with
Archibald Michie, having mapped his tree.
Tmol42 (
talk)
01:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi Schwede66. Are you going to change "Norman Kirk" to "Norm Kirk"? I don't think that would be appropriate. My recollection is that he was only called "Norm" by his friends and followers. My recollection is also that Robert Muldoon was only called "Rob" by his friends and followers (cf. "Rob's Mob" a group of his closest supporters). I think it would be better, and more objective and less offensive, to just name them by their formal first names. Norman for Kirk and Robert for Muldoon.
Rick570 (
talk)
19:34, 4 March 2015 (UTC)reply
I have no intention of moving Norman Kirk. As far as Muldoon is concerned, it would be better if we kept the discussion about him in one place. Schwede6619:47, 4 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Where is that?
Rick570 (
talk) 19:49, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
My point is that to change Norman to Norm is just as justified as changing Robert to Rob. Rob should be reverted to Robert. Please!
Rick570 (
talk)
19:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi. Okay, concerning
WP:overlink, as stated there, it says as they "are particularly relevant to the topic of the article", which, in this case, linking New Zealand in this particular article, clearly is. The same applies with these links listed below. Notice how these are all lists.
Hi Schwede66, I am sorry that I take your helpfulness for granted sometimes. I am very grateful for all the mentoring and help you have provided to me. I am sorry I am a bad student and not as helpful to you in return as I should be.
Rick570 (
talk)
21:19, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
You seem to be interested in NZ politics and in upgrading political biographies. I am too. But I am more interested in other things which take up my time!
Rick570 (
talk)
00:06, 8 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Hello, Schwede66. You have new messages at
Grutness's talk page. You can
remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Christchurch Cathedral Dean
Have you looked at the article on Lynda Patterson? It clearly says she is the 13th Dean of Christchurch Cathedral, albeit based in the temporary Cardboard Cathedral.
Plucas58 (
talk)
11:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Well, that's the great thing about Wikipedia - it comes with an in-built peer review system. Spent a few days in Otago Central over Easter and will populate Commons with some neat photos. By the way, are you aware that the German Wikipedia has complete listings of NZ heritage buildings that are registered with
Heritage New Zealand? I'm slowly populating those lists with photos where those are missing; here's a
link to the main Otago list. Schwede6603:35, 7 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I didn't know that! I've been adding the odd article or two about the better-known heritage buildings in Dunedin and area every now and again. I should perhaps do a couple more.
Grutness...wha?23:03, 7 April 2015 (UTC)reply
I'd like to invite you to join the
WikiProject R&B and Soul Music. We are currently on demand for new members, the project was dying, but with your help we can revive it and make it one of the best WikiProjects. Make me sure that you'll think about this and remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards
Dfrr (
talk)
00:28, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
In fact, that very thought that you might be working on an article briefly went through my mind and I should have gone with my intuition. Schwede6603:29, 11 May 2015 (UTC)reply
NZ general election 1975
Hi Schwede: Re the NZ general election articles; the Waitakere electorate was replaced by Henderson (with Martyn Finlay as MP) for 1969, 1972 & 1975 (see Norton pages 375 & 376). Hence I have removed the references to Waitakere in the article on the 1975 general election,
1975 election.
Hugo999 (
talk)
02:53, 11 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Barrhill, New Zealand you nominated for
GA-status according to the
criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by
Legobot, on behalf of
Winner 42 --
Winner 42 (
talk)
23:21, 1 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks heaps for jumping in on the Darcy Nicholas article! I was working with a dodgy internet connection so had to keep adding info in small chunks - guess someone read an early version and was unimpressed :(
Do you know how to write articles in your userspace? That's a safer way to go about it when notability of early versions isn't obvious. Schwede6605:32, 13 June 2015 (UTC)reply