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Please address the reason the tag was placed. The tag was placed because the article relies on first party sources. Wikipedia does not rely on first party sources. Therefore, it is a problem. Address the issue, don't just remove and give a half-assed reason on the talk page that does not even really address the issue. Apparition11 Complaints/ Mistakes 12:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
( Samual890 ( talk) 01:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_University.... they have the same kinds of information that this Wikipedia article has. I think you need to understand that and move on from this. It's fine if you want to keep the tag so that people get more information as far as third party sources but getting rid of any of the information is not acceptable and not the right and fair thing to do just because they do not have a third party source. In fact, I believe as long as it is cited, regardless of what is the rule or not is what it should be. It's not like we are making up the information... and if they believe so they could go directly to where we are getting the information.
( Samual890 ( talk) 03:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC))
Yes, but the thing is Wittenberg University is very notable throughout the country. The thing is, not many articles are published on the notable things do to the fact it is a small liberal arts college. So, in all fairness, some of the sources then have to be from the university's website. I think having approx. 14 of the sites from a third party is enough and good for such a small school. Now I don't believe anywhere in the article do we write about how good the university is... we are giving out information on the notable things of the university. If you look at the Ohio State article, they talk about residence life, and i just did a search there is only one tab for it. But their university believes that residence life is very notable for their students and i believe the same for this university.
I appreciate you taking the time and effort to re-write the information. I just hope you are able to use non-self serving sources, but my point is, if you can't find those sources, leave it as it is. Because, it's notable and since it's a small school it's not easy to also find newspaper articles to use as sources. I honestly think going to the actual source is better than relying on newspapers that could not be telling the full truth.
( Samual890 ( talk) 03:28, 1 April 2009 (UTC))
I'm unsure why using a newspaper that could give false information is better than going to a university article page where the information actually is. We'll I brought up the Ohio State article because they have the exact same kinds of information that we have, and I feel it's just not right to say to one article, "You can have this, but this other article you can't have that." Again, Wittenberg is a small liberal arts college, that is very famous through out the country. Wittenberg doesn't have articles written about them since they are a small school however there are many notable things. For example having a museum with a collection of 30,000 specimens and artifacts for geology is very notable for such a small school. However a newspaper may not have the time to write about it. So, I'm addressing the notability for it and backing up where I got my information that they do in fact have that many artifacts.
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Wittenberg University. Please do not add such material without permission from the copyright holder. For
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blocked from editing. You really think that the article should read like the virtual tour (where you copy and pasted those additions from)? Really?
Apparition11
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14:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
There was no copy right. I re-wrote parts of it. I plan to re-insert it since there was no copy right one bit.
( Samual890 ( talk) 00:39, 5 April 2009 (UTC))
There is no copyright at all. I re-wrote parts of the sentence. And you can help me If need be, change the rest of the sentence for me. But I did not do any copy right. You are not being fair to me.
Samual890, you'd better listen to what Apparition is telling you. If you want to stay on in this project, you need to learn how to edit properly. Apparition is giving you sound advice. And you are here basically "on probation", after your sockpuppeting spree of last week.
For now, I've blocked you for a short while to put a stop on your disruptive editing. When you come back, please make sure you reconsider your whole approach to what an encyclopedia is, including your notions of encyclopedic style, notability, neutrality, and academic ethics. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I find this unbelievable... i try to edit and then get blocked... I'm sorry... I won't do it again!!
What did I do wrong?? I added a section for the buildings and edited the sections.... what the heck???
( Samual890 ( talk) 19:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC))
That was my fault, I'm so terribly sorry. But what I did is I looked for a couple more sources... I found some for Wweaver Chapel and Recitation hall. I also cleared up the parks section, and I also went on the clean up the Weaver Chapel stuff you didn't like. I just want to mention the buildings since they are very historical. I guess I don't know how to use wikipedia so well and I wish someone would help me just write about it instead of blocking me. But anyways.... is there anyway to get unblocked?
Your block has been reset to another 10 days starting from now, for your obvious sockpuppeting attempt through Andrewkols ( talk · contribs). Try this one more time and all your accounts will be blocked indefinitely. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)