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(Idle observation by a passer-by:) I'm really impressed by the number of DYK credits you've recently gotten!
AGK[•]11:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Infobox body of water/sandbox
I plan to have this synced with the main template, per the merger of infobox bay, infobox ocean, infobox lake. you may want to check the classes before it is synced, to avoid a second edit request. thank you.
Frietjes (
talk)
22:29, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the opportunity. There was nothing broken, but I've done some cleanup and added some extra detail. Did you see my comments on the talk page, from before the TfD, about the use of {[para|depth}} and adding an |Engineer= parameter? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits22:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
The Wikimedia UK AGM will be held in June, and nominations for the UK Wikimedian of the Year are currently open. If there is someone who you feel has made an important contribution to the UK Wikimedia movement in the last year please go ahead and nominate them
here by 09:00 (BST) on Monday 20th May at the latest.
Richard Nevell (WMUK) (
talk)
12:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Rock Drill
I gave the article the lead hook for prep area 2. Sorry for the bother this has caused you; I've had similar inconveniences when one of my DYKs had the hook changed for something that turned out to be a non-issue.--GilderienChat|
List of good deeds17:41, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Deployed new bugfixes on wikidata.org including a fix for pages not being added to the watchlist automatically plus the first version of the RDF exort
The ability to include data using the property label is planned to be deployed on English Wikipedia on Monday and all others on Wednesday (You can then for example use {{#property:logo image}} in addition to {{#property:P154}}.)
Did you know?
Newest properties: exclave of, enclave within, HURDAT identifier, ISO standard, home port, general manager, ISO 15924, Swedish county code, BNFC Thesaurus, cause of death, brother-in-law (sister's husband), honorific prefix, academic degree, birth name, interleaves with, state, phase, powerplant, interaction, part concerned, armament, scheduled service destination, type of orbit, temporal range start, temporal range end, Swedish municipality code, located on island, consists of
{{Property|123}} can be used on Wikidata to get the label of the given property (P123) in the readers language. {{label|Q123}} does the same for items.
Development
Simplified the
inclusion syntax (this is one way how you access data from Wikidata in a Wikipedia article - the other one is via Lua)
But, typically didn't inform me. Given that I reverted him, twice, for a clear breach of our guidelines, and not more than three rimes, he seems to be in the wrong place. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits08:58, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Not informing you is surely a lapse on his part, but per
WP:REFACTOR I don't see the basis for you twice moving his comment so it appears in a different thread. As the refactoring page says, "If another editor objects to refactoring then the changes should be reverted." If you want admins to look into the issue of canvassing, you know how to proceed.
EdJohnston (
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12:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
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Andy, not sure I will do this correctly because you left without giving me the tutorial material. I took me sometime to get here because I had not noticed I was in Wikimedia rather than Wikipedia. — Preceding
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Peter Robert Shirley (
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contribs)
13:02, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
That will be the extent of my involvement. Knock yourself out, but please stop removing line breaks that I leave between comments until a decision is made there.
Walter Görlitz (
talk)
21:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
My first posting
==
Andy thanks for sorting out my posting, looks like I caused you a lot of work.
You might not see this because I am doing this on my iPad and I cannot work out how to do equals, it's on the button with two other characters, I cannot produce any of them! Neither can I see the tildes sign, but I have managed to avoid deleting those.
The additions were my pleasure; hope you like them. There is no need for equals signs in a talk page comment (they're for making headings, you'll recall), and there is a tool for "signing" with four tildes above or below the edit window. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits21:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Topic ban from TFA and candidate articles / Wagner article talk page
It has been brought to my attention that you are editing the Wagner article's talk page and have been since about 16 May, with it having been today's (or yesterday's) FA of the day. I would like to remind you of the year-old community imposed edit restriction on you editing the current FA and any scheduled ones upcoming
[1].
Please stop, while I review the situation.
Were you aware during this editing of the upcoming TFA status of the article?
Further this - The scheduling seems to have been 13 May (
[2] ), before you started editing the article, so it seems like you were drawn there by TFA related discussions, though if you have an alternate explanation I'm happy to discuss that with you.
Georgewilliamherbert (
talk)
00:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
As the diff you cite points out, and as you say above, I was enjoined to not edit the "FA [Featured Article] of the day and any articles nominated or scheduled as FA of the day" (my emphasis). Despite the double-jeopardy and malicious nature of the ANI discussion which led to that, I have complied. Have you looked into the matter of live talk-page conversations being archived or hidden? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits07:38, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
(watching) I was pretty surprised that such a sort of ban can exist, but even more so that it should include talk pages. In German that is called "Redeverbot", and human rights are in question, --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
08:25, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Nobody has a right to participate here. And looking at the wording of the ban, I can certainly see how it could be interpreted to mean "don't go near TFA at all" as opposed to "don't TFA at all". But you're right that it's rare indeed for us to ban editors from talk pages as well as articles, and it's always best being explicit at the time of imposing such band if that's the case. I would firmly agree that Andy didn't think he was in violation of the ban here. GWH should certainly clarify the terms of the ban, though to be quite honest I reckon Andy should probably stop wasting his time with this horrid little part of the project entirely rather than trying to help in spite of his restrictions.
Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (
talk)
09:47, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
More German: the manual archiving of the talk "spricht Bände" (don't know the English phrase), speeks loudly for itself. Something should be moved out of sight? I saw it and smiled. But then I didn't know automatic archiving was in place, and, had I known, I should have acted like you, Andy, to have the procedure "correct". - How that can be construed as a violation of a topic ban, better no comment. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
10:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
See
Wikipedia:Taxobox_usage for taxonomic boxes. I found the picture, elsewhere on the web. It was under an open licence so I was able to upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Everything's fine here, except you posted at the top of the page, not the bottom. Remember to use the "new section" tab to start talk page discussions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits09:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
The time datatype can now be tested on the
demosystem and should become available on Wikidata next week.
Did you know?
Newest properties: catalog code (P528), runway (P529), diplomatic relation (P530), diplomatic mission sent (P531), diplomatic mission sent (P531), port of registry (P532), target (P533), streak color (P534), Find a Grave (P535), ATP id (P536), twinning (P537), fracturing (P538), Museofile (P539)
d:Template:Constraint:Item allows to check if items using a given property also have other properties. To find items to fix, it links to one of Magnus' tools and to a daily report. Sample: items with property mother should also have main type (GND) with value person.
Development
A lot of discussions and hacking at the MediaWiki hackathon on Amsterdam
Worked on content negotiation for the RDF export
Bugfixing for editing of time datatype
Added validation in the api for claim guids. This also resolves bug 48473, an exception being thrown in production, whenever a bot or api user requested a claim with an invalid claim guid
Improved error message popup bubbles to show HTML and parse the links correctly
Fixed bug 48679, to hide the view source tab for item and property pages
Thank you very much for your thorough explanation during the Amsterdam Hackathon last Friday! I've just started the
translation of the Van Gogh article into Dutch you suggested, I intend to expand it later when I have the Van Gogh quotes in the original Dutch. Requests for translations on the Dutch wikipedia can be posted, e.g.,
here, or I can do it for you. Hope to see you again this afternoon, cheers,
JMMuller (
talk)
09:51, 26 May 2013 (UTC) PS On the Dutch wikipedia I am
nl:Gebruiker:Hansmuller.
hi, you can get a replacement keyboard at www.ipmart.com/main/product/US,Laptop,Keyboard,Compatible,For,ACER,TM200,LENOVO,Y510,FUJITSU,M7400,BLACK,282518.php?prod=282518 --Vera (
talk)14:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
There are a bunch of images of it at commons. I mentioned this to admin. Some may be kept as
de minimis and we may be able to include one. We can't crop de min images though.
Help_talk:Contents#Images you may wish to chime in on to get us some better images.--
Canoe1967 (
talk)
23:34, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for May 30
Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited
Ernest Dade, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page
Scarborough (
check to confirm |
fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the
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I have removed the speedy per IAR, as this was never meant to be a disambiguation page, it was originally a valid redirect which
Boleyn (
talk·contribs) converted without ever actually populating or explaining why. Regards,
GiantSnowman09:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Newest properties: venue (P540), office contested (P541), officially opened by (P542), oath made by (P543), torch lit by (P545), docking port (P546), commemorates (P547), version type (P548), MGP ID (P549), chivalric order (P550), residence (P551), handedness (P552), social media account on (P553), social media address (P554), doubles record (P555), crystal system (P556), DiseasesDB (P557), unit symbol (P558), terminus (P559), direction (P560), NATO reporting name (P561), central bank/issuer (P562), ICD-O (P563), singles record (P564), crystal habit (P565)
Added MediaWiki setting wgLogAutopatrol to allow wikis the option to disable logging of autopatrol actions
Improved EntityPerPage rebuild script, which is needed to fix the situation where some Wikipedia articles can't access data from Wikidata (
bugzilla:48506)
Fixed bug in SetQualifiers API module; Moved both SetQualifiers and RemoveQualifiers out of experimental mode
I just want to apologize again for falsely accusing you of 3RR. I really should have double-checked the history first, and I feel like a
dick. Really sorry. —
Frungi (
talk)
14:55, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that you've added some links pointing to
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I have quoted you (anonymously) at
Wikipedia:Peer review/Isabeau of Bavaria/archive1, near the end. It occurs to me that I may be misrepresenting your advice. Could I trouble you to look in and check that I'm not? No need to comment if you're happy with what I've said, but please say if I have it wrong.
Tim riley (
talk)
15:04, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello Pigsonthewing, I noticed that on the page of
the UK of This Month in GLAM there is a section missing and I hope you can full this section (at the bottom). The deadline is in 6 hours, if you need more time, just let me know, it can be moved. Greetings -
Romaine (
talk) 12:15, 7 June 2013
To Andy and Nikkimaria:
I'm troubled by seeing two editors I both respect at each other.
I've poked around a bit, but d not yet fully understand the issues. I started looking at some of the diffs provided by Andy. If I may, I'll start with one, as I have questions for both of you.
a removal of the access date. (There are some who think access dates aren't needed on certain types of refs, but I wouldn't have made that argument on this one. Do you, or is it for some other reason?)
a removal of some of the empty parameters.
a removal of the influences. The edit summary says unsourced, but Epstein appears to be sourced
I'd be curious to know why the empty parameters were removed. I think I could support the removal of honorific_prefix if you know enough about the subject to know that it will never apply. However, why remove awards?
It may be that the removal of the influences is why this is on the list. I do not support such inclusion, but I think that should be a community decision, not an individual editors decision. I think the community is on board with the notion that unsourced entries in the infobox are problematic, and you cited unsourced, presumably to justify removal of Epstein, but the source clearly supports it, so what am I missing?
Andy, when I first started writing this, I had missed that the influences were removed, so I originally was puzzled why this was on the list. I'm not on board with removing all empty parameters, but think that is worth a community discussion, and doubt that prompted the inclusion. Am I correct in guessing that the removal of the influences prompted the addition to the list, or were any of the other edits an issue?--
SPhilbrick(Talk)14:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I am not using this talk page to address her. I looked at an edit, saw questions that I wished to address to both of you, and copied the same question to each page, as a courtesy.
Stalking is a serious charge, and needs to be investigated, which I am starting to do. However, my process involves understanding the edits.--
SPhilbrick(Talk)16:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
In an earlier question, I had questions for both of you, so I posted the same question to both talk pages. In this case, my question are mainly aimed at Nikkimaria, but I'm letting you know I asked a question, prompted by the reading of the Arbcom guidance,
here.--
SPhilbrick(Talk)15:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
You still seem to be focused on the contents of edits; the issue is stalking, which is prohibited regardless of the content, with certain exceptions which unequivocally do not apply in this case. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits15:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I followed the link you provided, which provides some guidance on determining whether edits should be construed as wikihounding, and I am asking questions to see if I am missing something, because one I looked at seemed to qualify, but before jumping to a conclusion, I wasn't to see what, if anything I missing.--
SPhilbrick(Talk)16:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I've seen enough
It occurred to me as I reviewed some of the edits identified by Andy that I was emphasizing more recent edits. Perhaps one or both of you had been using the talk pages, and found it fruitless, so abandoned it. I just now looked at the first two edits in the list of examples, both in December 2012. In neither case do I see either of you at the article talk page, nor so I see evidence that either of you discussed either of these articles on each other's editor talk pages. You both have tens of thousands of edits, yet are ignoring rules we expect editors with a hundred edits to follow.
I had panned to look into more edits, but I think that is a waste of time. While I do see some edits that are problematic, I see them on both sides.
At the moment, I feel both of you deserve trouts, and request that you both drop the sticks, start over, and follow Editing 101 processes. Then, if one or the other does violate policies, guidelines or editing protocol expected by the community, it will be far easier to admonish the guilty party.--
SPhilbrick(Talk)18:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Newest properties: basionym (P566), hangingwall (P567), footwall (P568), date of birth (P569), date of death (P570), foundation/creation date (P571), date of scientific description (P574), discovery date (P575), date of dissolution (P576), date of publication (P577), Sandbox-TimeValue (P578), IMA status (P579), start date (P580), end date (P582), as of (P585), IPNI author ID (P586), MMSI (P587), coolant (P588), point group (P589), GNIS (P590), EC Number (P591), ChEMBL (P592), Homologene ID (P593), Ensembl ID (P594), IUPHAR ID (P595), in the direction of (P596), WTA ID (P597), commands (P598), ITF ID (P599), Wine AppDB-ID (P600), MedlinePlus ID (P604), NUTS (P605), first flight (P606)
Hi Andy, I'm glad to hear your retina surgery went well. I want to make you aware that the discussion you started on AN/I continues. There's an effort to ask Nikkimaria to agree not to follow your and Gerda's contribs, and to ask you and Gerda not to add infoboxes where you can anticipate that the addition will be contentious. If it's still open when you start editing again, I hope you'll comment. The aim is to head off an ArbCom case, which looks likely if this isn't resolved. Many thanks,
SlimVirgin(talk)02:19, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Very sorry indeed to see the temporary header on this page. Best wishes for speedy recovery, and I hope you will be well enough for the ballet bash at Covent Garden next week. Please don't trouble to reply to this.
Tim riley (
talk)
20:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for caring! Andy sent a short email that retina surgery went well but he needs to lay down most of the time for a week and can't edit. I am glad surgery went well. Did you know that he created
this? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
18:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I had a similar procedure in 2007; you do have to - quite literally - keep your head down for at least a week, and after that, for a great deal of the day for a while longer. It's a BIG deal as far as being able to read or use a computer!!!! Best wishes to Andy for a full recovery!
Montanabw(talk)18:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you to you all, and those who have sent good wishes via other means. The surgery, to repair a detached retina, seems to have gone well, but it's too early to know what the long-term outcome will be. I am still effectively immobile for 50 mins in every hour, and so cannot use a keyboard, only my phone. I should be up and about in three or four days, and may be at the Covent Garden event. I may do some minor edits (I have some files to upload) as I return to activity, and will respond to longer debates as soon as I am able, later. Right, that's my ten minute break up... Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits10:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
I remember, nothing sucks like sleeping face down (literally! and you gotta stay there!!) for a month or so, my neck muscles took longer to recover than the eye!
Montanabw(talk)17:28, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #62
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Newest properties: battle/war (P607), exhibition history (P608), terminus location (P609), exhibition history (P608), terminus location (P609), highest point (P610), religious order (P611), mother house (P612), OS grid reference (P613), CHRC (P616), yard number (P617), source of energy (P618), spacecraft launch date (P619), spacecraft landing date (P620), spacecraft decay date (P621), spacecraft docking/undocking dates (P622), crew photo (P623), guidance system (P624), coordinate location (P625), Sandbox-GeoCoordinateValue (P626), IUCN-ID (P627)
If you're interested in a specific topic then the
task forces are a good place to find like-minded people. Can't find one for your interest? Start one!
Development
More progress on supporting links to sisterprojects
Fixing issues with geocoordinate datatype that popped up after deployment
Selenium tests for time and geocoordinate interface
Andy, I hadn't realized you had to restrict time here while you are recovering. I'll put a note on the nomination so people know we should wait until you're ready to deal with it: no need to rush under the circumstances.
BlueMoonset (
talk)
17:38, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Mention on WP:AN
I have mentioned you on the Admin Noticeboard
[3]. I encourage you to read this and take it to heart. That is all. Guy (
Help!)
23:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Newest properties: E number (P628), edition of (P629), Paris city digital code (P630), structural engineer (P631), cultural properties of Belarus reference number (P632), Répertoire du patrimoine culturel du Québec identifier (P633), captain (P634), ISTAT ID (P635), route of administration (P636), Protein ID (P637), PDB ID (P638), RNA ID (P639), Léonore ID (P640), sport (P641), of (P642), Genloc Chr (P643), Genloc Start (P644), Genloc End (P645), Freebase identifier (P646), drafted by (P647), Open Library identifier (P648), NRHP (P649), RKDartists (P650), BPN (P651), UNII (P652), PubMed Health (P653), direction relative to location (P654)
Development
Worked on site-link group editing to make it possible to link to sisterprojects
Further work on input validation
Further work on handling invalid data gracefully
Use Serializers for generating API results
Finished selenium tests for TimeUI and CoordinateUI
Changed globe coordinate value input to use backend coordinate parser
Fixed issues with data type definitions not being available in the frontend
Wrote a little hack so that on statements with a long list of values you will always be able to see the name of the property of the current section you are in (since the label moves when scrolling the page)