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I nominated the article you created, Kevin Wm. Wildes for deletion. PIease share your opinions here Eclectek C T 16:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Please don't take personal offense. Everybody having their own opinions and going through civil discourse is what makes wikipedia great. I think that the article topic doesn't meet the standards of wikipedia. I have no problem with the article staying on wikipedia if the majority of users agree. I'm just working to make wikipedia great. Eclectek C T 20:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I see you had the " fight song moved to separate page". Could you please add a link to that page to the main Georgetown Hoyas page? Thanks, -- M @ r ē ino 21:33, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
We got GA! :) -- Ybbor Talk 02:49, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey Patrick,
As the person most responsible for getting Duke to FA status, I'll try to give you some advice on the Georgetown article. First, to answer your questions:
How, at a smaller school, can I get more people involved? Who/where is good to ask for assistance?
What should I avoid doing when posting it as a featured article candidate?
Now, to give you a short (and incomplete) improvement list, which I will also copy to the Peer Review submission:
Overall, I’d say the article is in really good shape. It is sourced copiously and correctly, and all the necessary components are there. Good luck! - Bluedog423 Talk 01:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
First, congrats on getting Georgetown University up to GA status. That's a tough process to go through, and you did a great job "shepherding" the article through it.
I noticed that you tagged the SVG version that I uploaded of the Georgetown seal. I had originally intended to upload that in place of the GIF image that's in the article now. Unfortunately, I never could figure out what the heck was wrong with it. If you click on the image placeholder on the image page, you can very clearly see the logo. However, on the image page it doesn't show, nor does it show up in the article. Very weird. If you've got any experience with that sort of thing, it'd be great if you could fix it. SVG images are generally preferable to GIF's or PNG's.
By the way, I changed the banner shell on the talk page. It's totally just a matter of aesthetics for me (I like being able to see the full list of projects and the assessment without having to click show), but if you don't like it feel free to change it back. Esrever 05:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Patrick do you want help on the Work/Publisher thingie? It would be easier/faster to keep it off the FAC and just do it. Let me know if I can help; I'll follow your talk page, so you can answer here. I suspect you're making it harder than it has to be; the publisher in many of those cases can just be Georgetown University. We just generally need to know who's webpage it is (as in, New York Times, BBC, Georgetown University, US News and World Report and so on.) SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
You've got a typo Univeristy throughout; I fixed some, but there are more. (It's looking good!) SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 22:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I've been keeping an eye on the Georgetown U FAC, as I'm sure you expect. I don't quite understand why everything was restarted. can you explain? Thanks in advance? -- Ybbor Talk 04:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
As someone with whom I have reviewed or worked with on an article or talk page, I humbly request your assistance in reviewing the Aggie Bonfire page for Featured Article status. Any/all constructive input is welcomed and appreciated on the FAC nomination page, but please read the instructions for reviewing before you make a comment. Thanks in advance for your assistance. — BQZip01 — talk 05:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations!!! I never wanted the article to fail in the first place, but I do want it to represent the best Wikipedia has to offer, as I believe you do. — BQZip01 — talk 15:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I still have issues with the article and I hope they can be addressed. I will post them here (currently all of my original comments are hidden, please do not erase and I will come back and give you the remaining items. — BQZip01 — talk 15:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Pat - thanks for your suggestions. If you think that "Campuses" is the right place to put the Medical Center, then I'll abide by that, but I'm not positive it belongs there. The med ctr incorporates the School of Medicine and the Biomedical Graduate program. The other pages on "campus" seem to be mostly buildings. Maybe we can split it into "Campuses" - GUMC, Law Center, Main Campus, McGhee, Villa la Balze, forthcoming Chinese campus - and "Buildings" for places like New South? What do you think? Thank you again for you patience! Elle121 20:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I noticed you were one of the primary contributors to the Georgetown University article. I'm having Florida Atlantic University undergo a peer review before taking it to WP:FAC. Since you are familiar with the process I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at the article? If so, please go here to offer any advice/suggestions.
Thanks, KnightLago 01:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
on the Georgetown article, and the date is not cited in the history of Georgetown University article, contrary to your claim. For a comparison, check out Harvard University and note that important dates are cited with sources external to Wikipedia.
Furthermore, it seems like an outside attempt at trying to claim that Georgetown is the oldest tertiary educational body in the U.S. by dating it to 1634, oddly close to Harvard's 1636. I'd bet that if you inserted that Harvard can trace its roots to 1629 (the founding of Mass. Colony) it'd be taken down within a day. As it is, no one cares about Georgetown's article enough to be that scrupulous.
So, I'm putting the need for a citation back in until you can provide a more adequate source.
As for WP:Lead:
"The lead must conform to verifiability and other policies. The verifiability policy advises that material likely to be challenged and quotations should be cited...The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis by editorial consensus. Complex, current, or controversial subjects may require many citations"
So, the date is being challenged. Rather than remove the marker advising the need for a citation, please find a legitimate one.
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I notice that Georgetown made the main page today. Congrats on all your hard work to get it there! Esrever 01:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I got into Georgetown! :)
(To be honest, I think my work on the article helped me get more knowledgeable about the school for my interview). -- Ybbor Talk 01:09, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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Hey. I know VZ center is the team's primary home but I'm not sure if the Hoyas should be mentioned on Washington, D.C because they represent GU, not the city. Best, epicAdam( talk) 22:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
There is a thread on the administrators' noticeboard which may concern you. Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Lyrics. CrazyPaco ( talk) 05:47, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
These fraternities should be restored to the article. Not only are they the two longest-surviving extent fraternities on campus, but they operate as authentic American fraternities - sans administrative oversight. In contrast, Sigma Phi Epsilon, which is listed, no longer institutes a pledging process or most of its ritual and is, by a literal interpretation of the definition, no longer a secret, Greek-letter, college fraternity (i.e., the usual meaning of "fraternity" at American universities).
Pi Kappa Alpha's founder Robertson Howard was a Georgetown Medical School alumnus before attending the University of Virginia where he founded the fraternity in 1868. Georgetown was finally colonized in 1906 (ref.: The Oak, Pi Kappa Alpha publications). Because traditional American fraternities have not been officially recognized by many Catholic universities, Pi Kappa Alpha remains a colony (one of ten such non-chapter entities), though it is self-governing and fully accredited by the International Headquarters with a current brotherhood of 37 (ref.: Shield and Diamond, Pi Kappa Alpha publications).
Sigma Nu at Georgetown University was originally a local fraternal organization called "The Steward Society" (ref.: Regent's Record, Vol. III, Sigma Nu publications). It was affiliated with Sigma Nu's national headquarters in 1948, but was apparently disbanded by 1969 (ref.: Regent's Record, Vol. IV, Sigma Nu publications). Nonetheless, an active colony is listed with Sigma Nu's headquarters today with a current brotherhood in the lowest range "Less than 25 members" (ref.: The Delta, 2007 annual, Sigma Nu publications).
Please consider the appropriate restorations, Patrizio. Guilfaloo ( talk) 06:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Patrick, I just wanted to pose a question. Please, I ask you earnestly not to take these remarks as criticism or argument. I had posted in the lead paragraph of Georgetown University that Georgetown was criticized for its Catholicism but all by Catholics for alleged unorthodoxy. I just wanted to ask, why is it the case that criticism from the outside is "controversy" notable enough to be mentioned, but criticism from Catholics isn't notable? There are surely tens of thousands of conversative Catholics (and even conservative non-Catholics) who have criticized Georgetown, on a fairly wide scale. However, I respect your viewpoint. Thanks -- Dpr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.194.50 ( talk) 15:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Patrick, Thanks for your note about the criticism sentence. Personally, I don't really like an opening paragraph that introduces controversy, as i think it should be simple and objective, leaving deeper discussion about these kinds of issues to later in the article. My edit reflects the fact, though, that if the sentence is going to be included, it is much too one-sided to say criticism of Georgetown comes from those who oppose its adherence to Catholic doctrine. I'm not sure of the nature or duration of your familiarity with Georgetown, but there have been many controversies within the last 15 years or so that caused considerable controversy inside the Catholic community. Some of these included funding for a pro-abortion group on campus, which prompted the Vatican to reprimand the university, as well as a well-publicized controversy about the removal of crucifixes from certain classrooms and alumni outrage over that incident. More recently, the university received a lot of criticism for allowing the White House to cover over the Jesuit symbol of "IHS" that includes a cross. As it is, we can work to find some references if necessary, but I repeat my objection that it is much too one-sided to say the majority of criticism comes from those who object to the Church's policies. —Preceding
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Not a problem. Just so long as progress moves along, no need to rush it. Wizardman 06:06, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I have finished a good article review of History of Georgetown University and placed the article on hold. Racepacket ( talk) 04:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
WP:MOS gives specific examples of placing footnotes in the middle of sentences. Do you agree that if a footnote supports a specific fact in the middle of a sentence, it should be placed there? Thanks, Racepacket ( talk) 11:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Also, it would help me if you point to anything in WP:MOS about capitalization of titles. As I have said User:Ryulong contends that we must follow the <title> parameter specified by the webpage, even if it is upper case. Thanks, Racepacket ( talk) 21:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I asked someone familiar with the topic about the history of diversity at GU, and here is his response: "You're right; by the time Bill Clinton graduated from the School of Foreign Service in 1968, Georgetown was just becoming fully coeducational (the College of Arts and Sciences was the last to admit women, that is. And the university's first small attempt to recruit inner-city black students began that year as well, although it built rather slowly through the 1970s. And there were no curricular upheavals. The university offered its first official courses in an African-American Studies minor in 2003. Yet at one point in the late 1980s or early 1990s, which should be checked and which was before "minority" began to diversify and include Latino and Asian students, the university's undergrad black enrollment peaked at near 10%, a level Cornell has never approached.
"I think it's all about basketball.
"The Georgetown men's basketball team, led by the outspoken coach John Thompson, created an image of diversity that apparently was not fully realized on campus. But it was enough to attract black applicants and others who thought the school was more progressive. When Georgetown won the national championship in 1984 it became in a way black America's team. It also helped that President Timothy Healy was a major public figure in higher ed in the 70s and I gather a champion of equal opportunity.
"To be defensive, I would say that most American universities did not necessarily experience the 60s the way Cornell did, but Georgetown certainly did not. Lots of student demonstrators ended up bivouacing here during legendary marches on the Pentagon and such, even though Georgetown students themselves did not have a strong reputation for "starting trouble."" Perhaps you may want to expand the article to reflect this insight. Racepacket ( talk) 11:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I redirected the article to the appropriate page because the article did not make any claims to notability. Simply existing is not notable. Do you see multiple, independent sources? Is it on the National Register of Historic Places? The only sources are from the school newspaper and a casual mention in another source.-- TM 23:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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I've created, or already existed, merged housing pages for Georgetown, Berkeley, University of Chicago, and now Virginia Commonwealth. The latter one, Housing at Virginia Commonwealth University, I've been working on lately. Which VCU halls were nominated, and are there any that were redirected? Johnson Hall was redirected, but not nominated. I've merged it.
I'm trying to merge in the rest of them, including other schools too, so if you have a list of what all was nominated or available, let me know and I will try to integrate them as I can.
I also can look through Namiba's AfD contributions around that time, but were there any other editors nominating that I should look through too? Shadowjams ( talk) 19:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Mr. Neil,
My name is Tim Dougherty and I am the Communications Director for Club Running. Would there be a way to mention Club Running on the Student Activities or the Athletics section of the Georgetown Wikipedia web-page? Our goals is to link our website, www.georgetown.clubrunning.org, underneath the aforementioned sections on Georgetown's page. Feel free to check out our website or ask me any questions. Thank you for your time.
Sincerely, 98.110.19.208 ( talk) 18:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)Tim tpd28@georgetown.edu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.19.208 ( talk) 19:27, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I've proposed a rewriting of the introduction to the article on Georgetown University. Please take a look at the article's discussion page and let me know what you think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feis-Kontrol ( talk • contribs) 23:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey Patrick. It was great finally getting to meet you. :-) I noticed the SVG graphic you put up on the Washington, D.C. page. I like being able to use SVGs, but even though the image is small, I do like the PNG better for the following reasons:
Is it possible/worth it to alter the SVG to address the above comments? I know it's nice to have a larger version of the map when people click on it, but perhaps there's a way to get a larger PNG or a more-precise SVG to address that issue? Thanks! - epicAdam( talk) 20:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey, Patrick. Just started here at SFS-Q on a temp assignment. People still talk fondly of you in your old building. Was exploring WP info on Doha, hoping to work on it myself once I get situated. Was wondering who did such a thorough job on the SFS-Q page. Lo and behold, your username sounded very familiar. Best of luck, wherever you are now. Alharaka ( talk) 08:39, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your welcome message. Please note, however, that I am not experimenting with the Georgetown University page. In fact, I have edited wikipedia in the past and I just cannot recall any of the account details as it was long ago.-- Misc11 ( talk) 22:22, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I am a college student putting together a video for a history class and was wondering if I may use your georgetown photo? It is for educational purposes only.
Thanks,
Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.225.120 ( talk) 23:29, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation, Patrick. I'm not gonna add these honorific treatments anymore. But royal titles such as Prince of Asturias are not honorific, so they must be added. -- Princelyddd ( talk) 17:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
As you wish. Hey, I got nothing against Georgetown: nice school, nice place (if one can afford it). 207.157.121.92 ( talk) 19:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for the Tireless Contributor Barnstar award you gave me on 25 January for the Georgetown men's basketball articles. It is a labor of love (I've been a fan of the team since 1977), but it's good to know someone else enjoys it; I appreciate your show of support and I am sorry to have taken so long to respond. With all the seasons created, I have gone back to add season recaps to each of them. So far, I've completed the recaps from 1906-07 up through the 1987-88 season, and I'll keep plugging away until I finish them. The late 1970s and early 1980s were particularly fun to do – they brought back a lot of memories – and now I'm arriving at the Mourning-Mutombo era. Looks like the NIT in 2014, but Hoya Saxa anyway! Mdnavman ( talk) 03:16, 15 March 2014 (UTC)mdnavman
Please advise Re: this I don't see anything at WP:V or WP:SOURCES about this. Can you substantiate your claim in the edit summary? — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 17:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
I'm just inquiring as to why you reverted a number of my edits on the articles of several schools of
Georgetown University. The edits were consistent with the infobox field format used in the Georgetown University article itself as well as with many other university infoboxes. The version that you reverted back to was put in place by myself, as was the recent version. I modified my own edits to in an effort to achieve consistency.
Thanks.
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Hello Patrickneil, I reviewed the nomination. It looks like everything is in order except for the requirement that the image appear in the article. The image that you selected does not appear in the Dahlgren Chapel of the Sacred Heart article. Thanks for your attention. Ergo Sum 20:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar! It's much appreciated. Related to that, you may wish to weigh in at List of Georgetown University alumni Featured List nomination regarding any steps you think should be taken or your opinion on the matter. Ergo Sum 19:26, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback regarding the Georgetown introduction. Feel free to drop by with any suggestions on what further changes can be made to avoid flowery/pretentious language.-- Satt 2 ( talk) 20:41, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
That timeline was a lot of work. the big east retains the basketball records of past teams since 1979 therefore it is relevant to show which teams were big east members at the time of the 2013 realignment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.132.105.51 ( talk) 19:22, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I have started a discussion to rename a large collection of categories, one or more of which you may have created or edited. Please see the discussion thread at commons:Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/04/College athletics programs for details. Thanks, IagoQnsi ( talk) 04:43, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Patrick, I am wondering whether you happen to remember where you found this image of Leonard Neale. I'm hoping to fill out its source information so that no issues arise by using it in the article. Ergo Sum 02:08, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi Patrickneil! I posted a question relating to something I noticed at the Georgetown University page at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Trouble importing map outlines from OSM. Since you appear to be the primary contributor to that page, if it was you who got the map outline to work, please let me know how you did it!
Also, while I'm here, I noticed you helped rescue Georgetown University Student Association from deletion a while back. If you have any tips/thoughts on student government sourcing/notability, please let me know as I'm encountering something similar. Cheers, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 20:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
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Pennsylvania. Try asking on
the talk page there, but the coords I think have to be built into Wikidata, which is this other site. As for GUSA, I fear that'll always be borderline notability unless some crazy scandal makes the national news. I'd say that building up the history strengthens its notability, and for that I'd recommend Robert Emmett Curran's three part A History of Georgetown University.--
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Hi Patrick, hope you're enjoying the holidays. I'm nearing completion on a long-term project I've been working on: getting all of the presidents of Georgetown up to at least GA status. I was thinking after I'm done, I'd try my hand at taking the History of Georgetown University article up to FA. That will probably be a hefty task, and since you're the main author of the article, I thought you might like to tackle it together. Is this something that interests you? Ergo Sum 07:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for reaching out, happy holidays to you too! Yes, FA would be good goal, it's one I haven't tried for in some years. I even marked it on my user page that I think the process is too rigid, and I recall pleasing the users who patrol FA's gated garden as an ugly sycophantic game. We'd probably run into an issue with using The Hoya or other campus newspapers as refs, as well as using the Georgetown site itself. You'd also likely need to loose that "Fictional depictions" section, I'm not sure it would even survive GAR. I think if I have more time for Georgetown, which I admit I haven't in recent years, I'd like to spend more time updating figures on the main article. All that being said, yes, I'd love to help! You've done amazing work on all the presidents and it makes sense to bring the History article up too. Patrick, oѺ∞ 04:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Patrick, apologies for not having gotten around to this. I'm determined to do it; just need to find time, which has been in short supply these days. I thought you might be interested that I've nominated Patrick Francis Healy for FAC. He really had a fascinating life. Since my last FAC failed for lack of input, I'm a tad nervous that this one will too. If you have a free moment and any interest in doing a FAC review, you'd certainly have my thanks. Ergo Sum 20:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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