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I have been on the ride Starship 3000 where you get stuck to the wall due to the force of the spinning of the ride. Is this the best example tthat of how someone can experience Hypergravity?
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Listen Just Stop Deleting My Content!!
Listen I edited the Kadugodi Wiki Page, Just go at the beginning in the history, just checkout, how much I had improved it, There was no columns, weather report, almost every shit on that wiki page, I had written it from the starch, I was born here, so I know more than you do!! Without knowing anything just don't undo. Many peoples are stupidly contributing there!
Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on
all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative
WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats.
Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.
1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?
Nessie: The main force, then and now, driving me to create or edit articles is thinking "Why isn't there an article on that on Wikipedia?" Either I'll read about some rarely-sighted creature in the deep sea or find something new on
iNaturalist and want to learn more. First stop (surprise!) is Wikipedia, and many times there is just a stub or no page at all. Sometimes I just add the source that got me to the article, not sometimes I go deep and try to get everything from the library or online journals and put it all in an article. The nice thing about taxa is the strong precedent that all accepted extant taxa are notable, so one does not need to really worry about doing a ton of research and having the page get removed. I was super worried about this as a new editor: I still really dislike conflict so if I can avoid it I do. Anyway, the most important part is stitching an article in to the rest of Wikipedia: Linking all the jargon, taxonomers, pollinators, etc., adding categories, and putting in the correct WikiProjects. Recently I have been doing more of the stitching-in stuff with extant articles. The last deep-dive article I made was
Karuka at the end of last year, which is a bit of a break for me. I guess it's easier to do all the other stuff on my tablet while watching TV.
2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all represented—are there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?
Nessie: I was a nerd from a time when that would get you beat up, so I like odd things and underdogs. I also avoid butting heads, so not only do I find
siphonophores and seaweeds fascinating I don't have to worry about stepping on anyone's toes. I go down rabbitholes where I start writing an article like Mastocarpus papillatus because I found some growing on some rocks, then in my research I see it is parasitized by Pythium porphyrae, which has no article, and how can that be for an oomycete that oddly lives in the ocean and also attacks my tasty
nori. So then I wrote that article and that got me blowing off the dust on other Oomycota articles, encouraged by the pull of propagating automatic taxoboxes. Once you've done the taxonomy template for the genus, well then you might as well do all the species now that the template is taken care of for them too. and so on until I get sucked in somewhere else. I think it's good to advocate for some of these 'oddball' taxa as it makes it easier for editors to expand their range from say plants to the pathogenic microorganisms of their favorite plant.
My favorite clades though, It's hard to pick for a dilettante like me. I like working on virus taxonomy, but I can't think of a specific virus species that I am awed by. Maybe Tulip breaking virus for teaching us economics or Variola virus for having so many ‹The
templateCategory link is being
considered for merging.›smallpox deities,
one of which was popularly sung about by
Desi Arnaz and then inspired the name of a
cartoon character who was then misremembered and then turned into a nickname for Howard Stern's producer
Gary Dell'Abate. Sorry, really had to share that chain, but for a species that's not a staple food it probably has the most deities. But anyway, for having the most species that wow me, I love a good fungus or algae, but that often is led by my stomach. Also why I seem to research so many plant articles. You can't eat siphonophores, at least I don't, but they are fascinating with their federalist colonies of
zooids. Bats are all amazing, but the task force seems to have done so much I feel the oomycetes and slime moulds need more love. Same thing with dinosaurs (I'm team Therizinosaurus though). But honestly, every species has that one moment in the research where you just go, wow, that's so interesting. For instance, I loved discovering that the picture-winged fly (Delphinia picta) has a mating dance that involves blowing bubbles. Now I keep expecting them to show me when they land on my arm, but no such luck yet.
3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script
Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with
ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?
Nessie: I initially started focusing on WikiProject talk page templates because they seem to be the key to data collecting and maintenance for articles, much more so than categories. This is where you note of an article needs an image, or audio, or a range map. It's how the
cleanup listing bot sorts articles, and how Plantdrew does his automated taxobox
usage stats. The latter inspired me to look for
articles on organisms that are not assigned to any ToL WikiProjects which initially was in the thousands. I got it down to zero with just copypasta so you can imagine I was excited when I saw the rater tool. Back then I rated everything stub/low because it was faster: I couldn't check every article for the items on the B-class checklists. Plus each project has their own nuances to rating scales and I thought the editors in the individual projects would take it from there. I also thought all species were important, so how can I choose a favorite? Now it is much easier with the rater tool and the apparent consensus with Abductive's method of rating by the pageviews (0-9 views/day is low, 10-99 is med, 100-999 is high...). For the quality I generally go by the ORES rating, you caught me. It sometimes is thrown off by a long list of species or something, but it's generally good for stub to C: above that needs formal investigation and procedures I am still learning about. It seems that in the ToL projects we don't focus so much on getting articles to GA/FA so it's been harder to pick up. It was a little culture shock when I went on the
Discord server and it seemed everyone was obsessed with getting articles up in quality. I think ToL is focusing on all the missing taxa and (re)organizing it all, which when you already have articles on every anime series or whatever you can focus on bulking the articles up more. In any event, on my growing to-do list is trying to get an article up to FA or GA and learn the process that way so I can better do the quality ratings and not just kick the can down the road.
4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?
Nessie: I mentioned earlier that the projects are the main way maintenance is done. And it is good that we have a bunch of subprojects that let those tasks get broken up into manageable pieces. Frankly I'm amazed anything gets done with WikiProject Plants with how huge its scope is. Yet this not only parcels out the work but the discussion as well. A few editors like Peter coxhead and Plantdrew keep an eye on many of the subprojects and spread the word, but it's still easy for newer editors to get a little lost. There should be balance between the lumping and splitting. The newsletter helps by crossing over all the WikiProjects, and if the discord channel picked up that would help too. Possibly the big Enwiki talk page changes will help as well.
5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?
Nessie: I'm not sure anything would be surprising. I focus on nature offline too, foraging for mushrooms or wild plants and trying to avoid ticks and mosquitos. I have started going
magnet fishing lately, more to help clean up the environment than in the hopes of finding anything valuable. But it would be fun to find a weapon and help solve a cold case or something.
... that despite a genus name referring to its dull leaves, Astilbe chinensis was celebrated as the most important new hardy perennial by the
Royal Horticultural Society in 1902? (2 June)
... that the marine worm Themiste pyroides is unusual in that it forms
swarms when breeding? (20 June)
... that cut branches of the small tree Erythrina berteroana are used to make living fence posts? (26 June)
... that the ripe seed pods of Brachystegia eurycoma burst explosively and throw out the large disc-shaped seeds? (28 June)
... that Swedish entomologist Carl H. Lindroth suggested that more than 40 species of North American
ground beetle were inadvertently transported from Europe in
ship's ballast? (29 June)
... that the sea hedgehog is a cannibal? (29 June)
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Ucucha15:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Orenburg1 and welcome to wikipedia. I hope that you have a good time here and enjoy editing. In regard of your recent edits to the article
Planet Earth, you changed "summer" to "spring" in several sections and "6 months" to "4 months" in the case of Penguins in the Antarctic. Would you be able to explain the rationale for your edits please? Sincerely,
Antarctic-adventurer (talk)12:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
I should have put a note. I reverted edits by IP's 70.239.11.123 & 76.205.81.217 made on 8th and 11th November 2010. It seems that there is a person out there who persistently changes "spring" to "summer" on various pages and also likes to mess with dates. From the pattern of edits I suspect that they are also using IP's 76.205.88.228, 76.205.90.138, 76.205.82.239 and 70.239.10.245 which are all in the same geolocation and possibly some others.
OK, Thanks for your reverts. This kind of vandalism is hard to spot so well done for finding it! Without going back and listening to the original narration I can't remember which one was correct.
Antarctic-adventurer (talk)18:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
I was just doing some general copyediting and typo correction. I deleted the repeated words. It read "Diamond Star, Diamond-Star..." While I am looking at the page doesnt the entry for BPM 37093 which says in part "...estimated to be a 10 billion trillion trillion trillion carat diamond." go a little further than the article actually says?
Now I see. You deleted the first instance without the "-" and left the second instance with the "-".
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Saniwa as I couldn't see an explanation for why you reverted the article back 4 days. All the information seemed to me to be referenced, reliable and well-written so I was wondering why you removed it? I was made aware of it as some of the information you removed is currently referenced on the Main Page in the DYK section. If you have any questions, please leave them on my talk page. Regards,
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12:08, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
I thought something like that might have happened given your first edit to the article. Saving old enough versions is easy enough to do, I'm sure I remember doing it at least once! No harm done, all is back as it should be now. Thanks,
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14:19, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Copy edit tagging
Hi Orenburg1, I just wanted to let you know that there is
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01:14, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi! As my English teacher says "we all need an editor". So I thought I'd point out that on your user page, you've misspelled "prejudice".
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If you want you can watch more episodes of the series on youtube. I believe a user named XmasToys has several uploaded.
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Yes I noticed and reverted some edits because they were unreferenced and badly written. I suspect that with some mentoring (not a skill that I have) he could become a good editor but the use of socks and abusive responses does not help.
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Comma or no comma. Thanks for highlighting this: it seems that opinion is divided on the matter. I'll try to get a consensus at the Project page.
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Thanks for clearing up my mistakes, which I have to point out are mainly due to a terribly old, sticky keyboard rather than ignorance. I was going to give you the Copyeditor's Barnstar, but I see you already have one of those, so I'll just say thanks for all your hard work and patience.
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Hi there. Well done with all the spelling corrections. Sad to say,
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17:05, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Damn-meant to get that one as well-must have been getting tired. Good on you for fixing it.
Undoing edits to Metropolitan Library
Hi: I removed those lines about Steve Kern & Mick Cornett from the
Metropolitan Library System (Oklahoma) entry simply because I don't think they contribute to the entry. My intentions weren't to dismiss these issues or to censor them but I don't think that they add anything helpful/informative to this article. I think there are venues online in which this content can be shared, but I don't think a Wikipedia article about Metropolitan Library is the best one for this information. I look forward to hearing your feedback.
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Hello Tspindle. I reverted your edit because there was no reason given for the deletion of these rather controversial issues. I think that it is important that controversies such as this are not airbrushed out of Wikipedia. However reading it carefully I would agree that it adds nothing to the article and would be better confined to the entries of the individuals concerned, something I will leave to someone else as I have no ax to grind here. I will unrevert; the fact that the controversy existed remains but it probably could do with copy editing to be more concise. This discussion should probably also be copied to the article talk page. Appreciate your bringing it here rather than just reverting again.
Okay no problem, but I would suggest, instead of reverting you should remove the tags manually if necessary. It's quite annoying for the user to see his edits getting reverted. Cheers.--
Zayeem(talk)21:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Why did you delete in the 1848 Hungarian revolution article?
It was a lot of work to translate it from Hungarian wiki page, and search many references n English language books of academic historians, it contained a lot of basic informations (such as goverments ). It is close to vandalism with very hypocritical insufficient grounds (like sockpuppet stubes etc....)--
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I see you are a new editor who has made only 4 edits, all to this one article. Your edits have been adding back material previously added by Stubes99 and subsequently removed by other editors. They are generally badly written, inaccurate in many cases and not neutral in presentation. I would normally welcome a new editor but I believe that you may be a sockpuppet of Stubes99. If I am mistaken I sincerely apologize.
Orenburg1 (
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Can you point out concrete way, which parts are not neutral? Exactly? You can found them in the books of the references. We can edit it, if they differ from the references. I'm curious. Thank you!--
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If you don't like the grammar, you can correct it. --
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Please fix this article for just a reason .. because at writing out this article it was unfinished drafting information which i'm emphasized to gathered or make an additional scope for that mentioned article. i am requesting you to refix this article urgently — Preceding
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you added a tag asking for more sources in the article
Cumulonimbus and aviation. There are already 54 references and in our opinion the contentious points of the article are duly referenced. Would you mind to be more specific which points need to have extra references. It would help. For now, I am in the dark. Thanks.
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Following your note I took another look at it (and made a couple of minor copyedits). I have not read the book so can not really comment (and do not want to) on the content except to say that approaching it as a casual reader it seems reasonably balanced. The quoted refs seem to say that not as much money was given to charity as the book implies but the article does not make that point - a minor comment from me. Good articles are more difficult to write than it seems at first and I hope you carry on. Regards
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18:03, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, and also for your measured question rather than just reverting the edits, which is appreciated. The Oxford English Dictionary and Merriam-Webster say "glamorous" is correct in both British and American English (as does Wiktionary). The OED website says "Note that although glamor is an American spelling of glamour, glamorous is not an American form. This word is spelled the same way in both British and American English, and glamourous is regarded as an error".
That seems like a fair explanation. I will not disagree, but I will lightly challenge it.
Merriam Webster says that "glamorous" is a less common variation. Also, these two examples above were Indian English. There is a little evidence that this is an acceptable variant and also we have no evidence about Indian English. I am not sure either way. Wiktionary seems like a fair place to sort this but I am not sure how that works. Thanks for the chat. I support what you are doing if you want to continue.
Blue Rasberry (talk)23:33, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Fair point, shame that MW is not as emphatic as the OED. I shall give third party spellings of glamourous from American sources the benefit of the doubt. Indian English spelling normally follows British English, I am not aware of an exception here, but I have never come across an Indian English dictionary; if you know of one please let me know. Regards
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07:53, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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On my, according to two people here, *random* use of punctuation in my article edits:
There has been a general decline, particularly in American culture, since, shortly after the advent of the Internet (that word, by the way, is ALWAYS capitalized), and particularly, the 'World-Wide Web', in what used to be considered, 'good' English grammar.
But a trend towards degeneration has been firmly set in place - mainly due to ignorance of the rules of the language, and, sheer laziness of attitude and that, mainly in punctuation, spelling, syntax, grammar, etc. This, I well remember, was predicted early on by veteran computer users, and, in particular, those who were writers.
This trend, of course, is due to the influx and influence of the general populace, which, seemingly all at once, introduced a 'lowest-common-denominator' policy on textual communication, by people who, typically, were not at all familiar with keyboards, namely typewriters, as used in textual communication of any kind. This has affect the comprehension and interpretation of said communications, to such a degree, that, more than 80% of all Internet-originated, textual communications sent by, even close family members, are misunderstood by the receiver, and another 80%, of any given message's content, is not correctly interpreted.
Punctuation, is the 'flavor' of a statement, or clause, as it relates to the previous, and the following statement or clause. As the eye perceives any good artwork, you are being guided - sensibly, and rationally through it, by way of proper punctuation.
See how easy, and conversational that was to read? Now, try this:
"There has been a general decline particularly in america since shortly after the advent of the internet which by the way is always capitalized and particularly the world wide web in what used to be considered good english grammar a trend towards degeneration has been firmly set in place mainly due to ignorance of the rules of the english language mainly in punctuation spelling syntax grammar and etc."
No, I wouldn't want to have to read it again, either.
There is, also, probably something else to consider. That is, your personal familiarity or unfamiliarity, with the language and how you learned to speak it, and, how you read it.
If you're under about the age of 30, then you, and those before you, are speaking it differently. Your 'discontinued use' of - what used to be required adeptness in - the intricacies of English grammar, doesn't make my memory, and my retention of it, wrong.
Good writing should resemble, even mimic, oral conversation. Punctuation gives a string of ideas, or a clause - or a string, or a progression of clauses - clarity, and sensibility. See that? If you didn't quite catch it, read it again.
According to Strunk and White, a certain amount of 'literary freedom', is granted to the writer, who may wish to use it as a literary 'device', or, in such a way as to emphasize something, which, may not present itself, readily, to the reader. Punctuation should present, properly, the idea proposed, in a way that fits, and suits, the desired, chosen way of expression of the writer. The way it is written and punctuated, depends on the content, dialect, phraseology (British, or American) emphasis of content or idea, and, even local colloquialism.
DO NOT criticize, or otherwise reprimand me, for my application of something, that is going to assist you, in the understanding, and readability, of each idea, as it occurs, and is presented, in a way that, in the end, makes your reading experience, one, of better, overall comprehension.
Now, read that rather lengthy sentence again - this time, with no punctuation. Have fun.
DO NOT try to minimalize my level of continued, and, continuing education, unless, you are quite well-prepared to assert comparisons.
If, at this point, you didn't quite catch what I just said, read it again.
If all else fails - I'll do the writing; you, do the reading.
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Hello, I saw you added there were no sources/references on the article which details the episodes and plot. I wondered if you could elaberate on this, in hope I can find what is nessesary to improve the article.
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23:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi Heimatchen - I cleaned up some English and typos and tagged the article as it had no references at all. Wikipedia requires verifiability; see
Wikipedia:Verifiability. Reading
Help:Referencing for beginners may be useful. Hope this helps.
Regarding the plots, which is purpose of episodes page, they are direct from the episodes/films themselves. I thought plots do not require references? If it is about the title names, run times, etc, I'm sure I'll be able to find somewhere.
Also, there for Heimat 1, there is a Blu-Ray being released in a few months, which I'll be getting. Any helpful information from interviews or the booklet or documentary, I will gladly add. Regards.
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Hi Orenburg1, Wikipedia only has one page for a Westphal article, while there are actually two Westphal's with one being a neighbourhood located in Dartmouth, NS and the other being a separate community outside Dartmouth, NS. I was wondering if you could help me gather sources so we could get the Westphal community up on Wikipedia and have it show on Google Maps. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
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Hi. I removed the squirrel image because it was wrongly described - as my edit note said. I didn't intend to delete anything else, so have removed the image again keeping that other data. Thanks for spotting my editing error.
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Hi Charlesjsharp. Maybe I should have just reversed the IUCN bit - I just looked at the photo again and think it is probably not X. princeps. Difficult to tell from the photo.
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Hi Orenburg1, How are you? I don't think we have spoken before. Yip is thr short answer. When Feichtner was captured after the war, he had to write some homework they called it, by
TICOM, which is essentially all the stuff he did while he was working as a Luftwaffe officer. As part of the Germany surrendering unconditionally, German soldiers had to offer all the information they had to whoever in the allies wanted it. TICOM and a British outfit
CSDIC sent teams in to capture and interrogate important Germans who were involved in the intelligence side of things. Feichtner was one of those captured. So it is his homework you are reading. He was very busy Luftwaffe officer. I have other homework examples, e.g.
Otto Buggisch who was also captured and
Hans Rohrbach who was a brilliant mathematican and crypanalyst, one of their best and did important work after the war. He wrote a 98 page homework document on a solving the O2 strip cipher, which is dense mathematical treatise and too long for Wikipedia really, which is unfortunate. All these documents are in the public domain and have been cleared for use by Wikipedia, and Diaanna. regards.
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Hi Orenburg1, Thank you for your edits to Aeroflot Flight 1661. Spelling and Grammar are unfortunately my weak area. I concur with your edits in this article. Thank you. -
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For your diligence in identifying, and promptly correcting, spelling errors and typographical errors. Thank you and well done!
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Thank you for your contributions to the article on
Arturo Alfonso Schomburg. It has been among the favorite articles which I have written because it tells that Puerto Ricans have made positive contributions to the United States. The fact is that Schomburg was born in Puerto Rico when Puerto Rico was still a Spanish Colony and therefore he was not an American citizen.
As a matter of fact Puerto Rican citizenship was first legislated by the United States Congress in Article 7 of the Foraker Act of 1900. When Puerto Ricans were granted a limited citizenship in 1917, by the Jones Act, they didn't have to give their Puerto Rican Citizenship. On November 18, 1997, the Supreme Court of Puerto Rico, through its ruling in Miriam J. Ramirez de Ferrer v. Juan Mari Brás, reaffirmed the standing existence of the Puerto Rican citizenship. The CIA World Fact Book, states that the nationality of Puerto Ricans is not "American" but, in fact, "Puerto Rican."
Not only that, he was proud of being a Puerto Rican and referred to himself as an "Afroborinqueño" which means "Afro-Puerto Rican". He became a member of the "Revolutionary Committee of Puerto Rico" and became an active advocate of Puerto Rico's and Cuba's independence from Spain.
Let's go by the true facts, this being an encyclopedia. We can not re-write history to our liking. Now, thank you once more for your good-faith editing.
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02:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
I think you are berating the wrong person here. I merely corrected the grammar from "...a American..." to "...an American..."; I have no opinion on his nationality. If you wish to harangue someone for altering his nationality then you need to talk to 2601:cd:c101:5870:41e2:bb45:f4c4:5363.
Thank you for correcting my poor typing on the above.
I see Watermillock came straight back. He has played around not usually flatteringly with this biog for some years under Watermillock and other usernames.
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23:44, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Tree of Life editors are making a respectable showing in this year's
WikiCup, with three regular editors advancing to the third round. Overall winner from 2016, Casliber, topped the scoreboard in points for round 2, getting a nice bonus for bringing
Black mamba to FA. Enwebb continues to favor things remotely related to bats, bringing Stellaluna to GA. Plants editor Guettarda also advanced to round 3 with several plant-related DYKs.
Wikipedia page views track animal migrations, flowers blooming
A
March 2019 paper in PLOS Biology found that Wikipedia page views vary seasonally for species. With a dataset of 31,751 articles about species, the authors found that roughly a quarter of all articles had significant seasonal variations in page views on at least one language version of Wikipedia. They examined 245 language versions. Page views also peaked with cultural events, such as views of the
Great white shark article during
Shark Week or
Turkey during
Thanksgiving.
Did you know ... that Tree of Life editors bring content to the front page nearly every day?
April DYKs
* ... that Dippy is the most famous dinosaur skeleton in the world? (1 April)
... that Hubbard's angel insects groom themselves and each other, perhaps in order to avoid the fungal diseases that kill many
zorapterans? (6 April)
... that the
polychaete worm Poecilochaetus serpens digs a burrow with its head and lines it with particles of clay or mud cemented with mucus? (8 April)
... that Promachocrinus is unusual among
crinoids in having ten pairs of arms? (9 April)
... that the weevil species Sicoderus bautistai, described as resembling "black, shiny ants", is named after professional baseball player
José Bautista? (18 April)
... that the dire whelk sometimes shares the prey of the
ochre sea star while it is eating? (19 April)
... that in the 1970s, spoon worms helped promote
biodiversity around the effluent outlets from the Los Angeles
sewage system? (21 April)
On 23 May, user Prometheus720 created a talk page post,
"Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects
Genetics +
Molecular and Cell Biology +
Computational Biology +
Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.
Editor Spotlight: These editors want you to write about dinosaurs
Editors FunkMonk and Jens Lallensack had a very fruitful month, collaborating to bring two dinosaur articles to
GA and then nominating them both for
FA. They graciously decided to answer some questions for the first ToL Editor Spotlight, giving insight to their successful collaborations, explaining why you should collaborate with them, and also sharing some tidbits about their lives off-Wikipedia.
1) Enwebb: How long have you two been collaborating on articles?
Jens Lallensack: I started in the German Wikipedia in 2005 but switched to the English Wikipedia because of its very active dinosaur project. My first major collaboration with FunkMonk was on Heterodontosaurus in 2015.
FunkMonk: Yeah, we had interacted already on talk pages and through reviewing each other's articles, and at some point I was thinking of expanding Heterodontosaurus, and realised Jens had already written the German Wikipedia version, so it seemed natural to work together on the English one. Our latest collaboration was Spinophorosaurus, where by another coincidence, I had wanted to work on that article for the
WP:Four Award, and it turned out that Jens had a German book about the expedition that found the dinosaur, which I wouldn't have been able to utilise with my meagre German skills. Between those, we also worked on Brachiosaurus, a wider Dinosaur Project collaboration between several editors.
2) Enwebb: Why dinosaurs?
JL: Because of the huge public interest in them. But dinosaurs are also highly interesting from a scientific point of view: key evolutionary innovations emerged within this group, such as warm-bloodedness, gigantism, and flight. Dinosaur research is, together with the study of fossil human remains, the most active field in paleontology. New scientific techniques and approaches tend to get developed within this field. Dinosaur research became increasingly interdisciplinary, and now does not only rely on various fields of biology and geology, but also on chemistry and physics, among others. Dinosaurs are therefore ideal to convey scientific methodology to the general public.
FM: As outlined above, dinosaurs have been described as a "gateway to science"; if you learn about dinosaurs, you will most likely also learn about a lot of scientific fields you would not necessarily be exposed to otherwise. On a more personal level, having grown up with and being influenced by various dinosaur media, it feels pretty cool to help spread knowledge about these animals, closest we can get to keeping them alive.
3) Enwebb: Why should other editors join you in writing articles related to paleontology? Are you looking to attract new editors, or draw in experienced editors from other areas of Wikipedia?
JL: Because we are a small but active and helpful community. Our Dinosaur collaboration, one of the very few active open collaborations in Wikipedia, makes high-level writing on important articles easier and more fun. Our collaboration is especially open to editors without prior experience in high-level writing. But we do not only write articles: several WikiProject Dinosaur participants are artists who do a great job illustrating the articles, and maintain an extensive and very active image review system. In fact, a number of later authors started with contributing images.
FM: Anyone who is interested in palaeontology is welcome to try writing articles, and we would be more than willing to help. I find that the more people that work on articles simultaneously with me, the more motivation I get to write myself. I am also one of those editors who started out contributing dinosaur illustrations and making minor edits, and only began writing after some years. But when I got to it, it wasn't as intimidating as I had feared, and I've learned a lot in the process. For example anatomy; if you know dinosaur anatomy, you have a very good framework for understanding the anatomy of other
tetrapod animals, including humans.
4) Enwebb: Between the two of you, you have over 300 GA reviews. FunkMonk, you have over 250 of those. What keeps you coming back to review more articles?
FM: One of the main reasons I review
GANs is to learn more about subjects that seem interesting (or which I would perhaps not come across otherwise). There are of course also more practical reasons, such as helping an article on its way towards
FAC, to reduce the GAN backlog, and to "pay back" when I have a nomination up myself. It feels like a win-win situation where I can be entertained by interesting info, while also helping other editors get their nominations in shape, and we'll end up with an article that hopefully serves to educate a lot of people (the greater good).
JL: Because I enjoy reading Wikipedia articles and like to learn new things. In addition, reviews give me the opportunity to have direct contact with the authors, and help them to make their articles even better. This is quite rewarding for me personally. But I also review because I consider our GA and FA system to be of fundamental importance for Wikipedia. When I started editing Wikipedia (the German version), the article promotion reviews motivated me and improved my writing skills a lot. Submitting an article for review requires one to get serious and take additional steps to bring the article to the best quality possible. GAs and FAs are also a good starting point for readers, and may motivate them to become authors themselves.
5) Enwebb: What are your editing preferences? Any scripts or gadgets you find invaluable?
FM: One script that everyone should know about is the
duplink highlight tool. It will show duplinks within the intro and body of a given article separately, and it seems a lot of people still don't know about it, though they are happy when introduced to it. I really liked the citationbot too (since citation consistency is a boring chore to me), but it seems to be blocked at the moment due to some technical issues.
JL: I often review using the Wikipedia Beta app on my smartphone, as it allows me to read without needing to sit in front of the PC. For writing, I find the reference management software
Zotero invaluable, as it generates citation templates automatically, saving a lot of time.
Editor's note: I downloaded Zotero and tried it for the first time and think it is a very useful tool. More
here.
6) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-wiki?
FM: Perhaps that I have no background in natural history/science, but work with animation and games. But fascination with and knowledge of nature and animals is actually very helpful when designing and animating characters and creatures, so it isn't that far off, and I can actually use some of the things I learn while writing here for my work (when I wrote the Dromaeosauroides article, it was partially to learn more about the animal for a design-school project).
JL: That I am actually doing research on dinosaurs. Though I avoid writing about topics I publish research on, my Wikipedia work helps me to keep a good general overview over the field, and quite regularly I can use what I learned while writing for Wikipedia for my research.
The
WikiCup, an annual editing competition, is now in its fourth round. Casliber, consistent participant since 2010 and winner in 2016, is currently dominating Group A with 601 points. Largely responsible is the successful Featured Article nomination of
Masked booby. The other remaining Tree of Life participant, Enwebb, is participating in her first ever WikiCup. In this round, she has a grand total of...5 points. But with the recent Featured Article nomination of
Megabat, she stands to gain 600 points if successful. As it stands, though, it appears that at least one ToL editor is headed to the fifth and final round of 8 contestants, which begins September 1.
Thus far, all participants in the WikiCup have generated 17 Featured Articles, 116 Good Articles, 16 Featured Lists, and 57 Featured Pictures. The Good Article Nominations backlog has been reduced as well, with 286 Good Article Reviews.
Editor spotlight: Photographing the tree of life
For this month's editor spotlight we're joined by Charlesjsharp, a longtime contributor to Wikimedia Commons with a plethora of featured pictures on English Wikipedia.
1) Starsandwhales: How long have you been editing Wikipedia, and how did you get interested? How did you begin your journey of photographing wildlife?
Charlesjsharp: I uploaded my first pictures to Wikipedia twelve years ago for fun, to show my kids how it works. The pictures of my daughter (
static trapeze), my son (
Revell), my dog (
Border Terrier) and my parents’ home (
Tealing) are all still in the articles! I then started to upload wildlife images.
I’d got my first camera aged eight and went on my first safari in the Kruger Park, South Africa in 1970. I was hooked. I switched to digital in 2004, but didn’t buy any high-end lenses till 2014. Such a shame that hundreds of great photos I took before then look so dreadful by today’s quality standards. My 100-400mm lens transformed mammal and bird photography opportunities and when I got my 100mm macro lens in 2016, the whole new world of insects was open for business.
2) S&W: Over the years, you've taken photos of many different organisms from birds to insects to big cats; you have an
extensive list of favorite images. Which animals have been the most exciting for you to photograph?
Charlesjsharp: The trophy animals the hunters used to shoot are the ones I like to shoot too: it was lion, elephant and baboon in 1970. More recently, hunting for tiger by jeep in Kanha National Park in India was exciting and so was searching for jaguar by boat in the rivers of the Pantanal in Brazil. Our encounters with the mountain gorillas in Rwanda and Uganda was amazing, but the actual photography was no challenge.
But photographing animal behaviour is the most exciting and challenging. There’s usually movement and it all happens so fast, like when
a bird captures its prey. Every now and then you snap something really unusual – like the
cannibal kingfisher
3) S&W: Many articles under ToL have requests for people to add images that can go unanswered. What can the community do to improve the coverage of different organisms on Wikipedia, especially when it comes to images?
Charlesjsharp: It’s a very time consuming process because the Wikipedia code is cumbersome (*see below). It take an age to upload to Commons: to describe, categorize, geocode. Many of the categories don’t exist so have to be created. If the image is of a subspecies, then all the images have to be checked before you can nominate an image for VI. It’s also takes ages to nominate images for VI and QI on Commons. May be some users use sophisticated tools to lighten the load, but I don’t know if they exist. In other words, Wikipedia is OK, but Commons is a nightmare. Hundreds of really poor quality photos clog up the system and some users are too lazy to filter and edit their nominations.
Recently, some thoughtless editor added a ‘caption’ box to Commons. A waste of time. The image title should act as the caption.
I applied for a grant to attend Wikimania, but was unsuccessful. Not much can happen without some funding to kickstart and then drive improvements forward. Here was my response to the question: "How can we increase the quality and diversity of images being uploaded and, in particular, improve the Featured Picture, Quality Image and Valued Image projects?"
1. Work together on pre-defined projects to develop a team spirit that will help us develop a set of shared values
2. Through brainstorming, Identify what we need to do to improve the quality and diversity of images being uploaded and, in particular, identify what we need to do to improve the credibility of the Featured Picture, Quality Image and Valued Image projects
3. By sharing our photographic skills, find ways to share skills with the community. Knowledge transfer is time-consuming and we need to set limited objectives and realistic time frames. This will require compromise as individuals have to listen and find ways to agree. This is going to be much easier through face-to-face meetings
3. Identify what we need to do to improve the quality and diversity of images being uploaded (diversity of contributor and diversity in subject) and, in particular, identify what we need to do to improve the credibility of the Featured Picture, Quality Image and Valued Image projects
4. Spend more time talking about values and knowledge transfer than sharing photography tips amongst delegates, then getting all delegates to agree to DO SOMETHING WHEN THEY GET HOME to take things forward.
4) S&W: What advice would you give to people new to photographing wildlife?
Charlesjsharp: An impossible question unless you know what someone’s objective is. So you’re on your first safari? Borrow or rent a decent camera and a quality 300mm lens. Then read a few of the dozens of free advice pages on the internet. Then when you’re out and about, take the lens cap off and set the camera to fully automatic sports mode. Be ready. If you’ve time, get in the right place (sunlight/background). Watch the animal’s behaviour. Point and shoot. Glance at the screen. If OK, repeat. Only then start playing with the settings to optimise shutter speed, F number and ISO.
5) S&W: What would the Tree of Life community be surprised to learn about your life off-wiki?
Charlesjsharp: I used to be a high-end stamp collector (early USA). My photography is a sort of collecting. And I’m a keen bridge player.
* An example of cumbersome code: getting the layout of my responses to your questions. So dated, and no online spellchecker.
The Tree of Life WikiProject and its sprawling phylogeny of daughter projects is one of the largest and most active communities in Wikipedia. It encompasses approximately 570
Featured Articles and well over a thousand
Good Articles (second only to military history). The WikiJournal of Science (one of
three current journals in the user group) has a few aims that may closely align with the interests of the ToL community.
Review of existing articles
Firstly, WikiJSci can be a complementary system for FA review (getting external review, input, and validity). When an Wikipedia article is nominated (via
WP:JAN), journal editors go out to non-Wikipedian academics and researchers who have published on the subject on the last five years and invite them to give feedback comments (e.g.
Peripatric speciation and
Baryonyx). The resulting changes can then be integrated back into the Wikipedia article.
Attracting new articles and contributors
Getting more editors involved in Wikipedia is always a high priority. WikiJSci can also be a way to encourage new people to contribute articles (especially on missing/stub/start topics). An example of an article that was written from scratch by a group of non-Wikipedians is
Teladorsagia circumcincta. This not only resulted in a new Wikipedia page on an underdeveloped topic, but introduced the idea of Wikimedia contribution to a group of people who had previously never considered it.
Images, videos, sound and galleries
The journal can be a way to get multimedia content reviewed or encourage contribution. The same approach could be easily adapted to sounds (e.g. frog mating calls) or videos (e.g. starfish feet motion). It also allows for tracking of those images in new articles via Altmetric (
this example has >200, which is bananas). There aren't any biology examples in WikiJSci yet, but the sister medical journal has published a few summary diagrams, photography, and image galleries. Examples include
this gallery by Blausen Medical or the diagram of
cell disassembly during apoptosis.
Other projects
For those interested in other Wikimedia sister projects, there's also broad scope for interactions with the WikiJournals. Perhaps peer reviewed teaching resources could be useful to sit alongside sets of Wikipedia articles and be integrated into Wikiversity courses (like
this or
this)? Can sections of Wikidata & Wikispecies be peer reviewed? What are the potential avenues for integration with
WikiCite,
WikiFactMine,
Scholia, etc.? Currently, WikiJSci is aiming to be very flexible and try out different formats so long as they can be externally peer reviewed.
1) Enwebb: You're very prolific with DYKs, with over 2,000 nominations credited (in fact, I'll highlight which DYK nominations this month were yours below). What made you become so involved in this part of Wikipedia? Why should Tree of Life editors nominate articles for DYK?
Cwmhiraeth: I became aware of the WikiCup in 2012 and entered the contest. The scoring structure seemed to me to favour DYKs, and I went to considerable trouble to identify short stubs that could be expanded into qualifying start class articles with multiple bonus points. Casliber introduced me to preparing articles for FAC and Sasata helped me with my first solo FA. I won the WikiCup that year, and repeated that success the following year, after which the Cup got a bit more competitive. By that time, nominating articles for DYK was an ingrained habit, and I have continued doing so ever since, but at a rather slower rate. I do more work behind the scenes at DYK now, reviewing other people's nominations in excess of my QPQ requirement, and building prep sets ready to go on the main page, and I retired from competing in the WikiCup and became a judge instead. I would encourage ToL editors to nominate suitable articles for DYK because it gives great satisfaction to know that hundreds or even thousands of people have appreciated your work, and it provides a foil for the biographies and historical articles that predominate there.
2) Enwebb: I noticed that your DYK nominations reflect a diverse array of flora and fauna, from trees, marine invertebrates, birds, fishes, and mammals. How do you decide what to work on?
Cwmhiraeth: As I look around different articles I keep a note of things I might work on, red links, stub articles that need expanding or places in articles where I would like to add a wikilink but no suitable target page exists. So I have this list, but more often than not I choose a new article to work on based on a Google book that I have been using in a previous article. I like Google books; some of them are really useful for species articles, the main annoyance being when certain pages are permanently unavailable, although I am quite good at tricking the books into revealing pages that they were trying to prevent me from viewing. Eventually I get bored with African rodents, or whatever my present topic is, and move on. I am particularly interested in organisms living in extreme habitats, endangered species, invasive species, pest species, parasites or creatures with interesting behavioural traits.
3) Enwebb: Which of your Wikipedia accomplishments are you most proud of?
Cwmhiraeth: Well,
Sea really. Again that was inspired by the WikiCup, and working in collaboration with Chiswick Chap, we took it from virtually nothing, little more than a list of seas, through DYK and GA, culminating in a really tough FA. That was very satisfying (as were the 1000 odd points it gained me at the WikiCup). In complete contrast was the article
Tree. I completely rewrote it in a sandbox as an entry for the "Core contest". The previous version had been quite short with a section on "Record breaking trees" which I hived off into a separate article. My new version was immediately challenged and an edit war would have erupted had I not decided to retire from the fray. My version had some serious flaws, I had never studied botany and I had used a book source which misled me. However, after corrections, my version largely remained in place and I later joined Chiswick Chap in bringing the article to GA status.
4) Enwebb: What motivates you to keep contributing? What's your 10,000 ft view (pardon the non-SI) of the community and Tree of Life?
Cwmhiraeth: I think Wikipedia is a really great project. The idea of Wikipedia as a pool of knowledge contributed to by thousands of individuals in hundreds of countries is inspiring. It would be nice if we had no vandalism and everyone co-operated with everyone else in an amicable spirit, but as we are all human, it does not quite work out like that. I like to think of my efforts as a legacy that will continue in existence after I am gone.
6) Enwebb: How did you first become interested in natural history?
Cwmhiraeth: When I was young I had an elderly aunt who used to come to stay and who would take me for walks in the countryside, during which we would watch birds and identify wild flowers. She would take me out at weekends from my girls-only boarding school and we would search for orchids on the Wiltshire Downs. My school was not geared up for science, we just did general science for O-levels, and when it came to A-levels, I was the only pupil in my year to do zoology and chemistry, and one of only two to do physics, for which we had to cycle off to the grammar school on the other side of town. I wanted to be a vet, but was discouraged by my father, obtained a BSc in biochemistry and ended up in an unrelated job. If I were to live my life again, things might work out differently, but then I dare say we could all say that!
August DYKs
Weebill
Nanhaipotamon macau
P. lutzii (yeast phase)
Cannonball mangrove
Ruspolia nitidula male
Female kob and calf
... that falguera, a plant known from only one valley in Spain, is threatened by rock climbers and by road maintenance? (1 August)
... that Dioscorea chouardii is known from a single crag in the Pyrenees and has been monitored using scaffolding and telescopes? (3 August)
... that the densely-populated territory of
Macau is home to a recently discovered, endemic species of freshwater crab of the genus Nanhaipotamon(pictured)? (17 August)
... that the crimson seedcracker has two
morphs, large-billed and small-billed, but this trait is not related to sex, age, body size, or location? (18 August)
... that the sea anemone Anemonia sulcata is known as ortiguilla in southern Spain, where it is a popular seafood? (19 August)
... that the Sorana bean is grown in such small quantities and is in such demand that it commands prices six to ten times higher than those of other
cannellini beans? (19 August)
... that antelope grass can recover quickly after
wildfires even in the middle of the dry season? (19 August)
... that the Namib brush-tailed gerbil uses ultrasonic whistles and foot drumming to communicate? (20 August)
... that strips of bark from the West African copal are used to make beehives, while the flowers are attractive to bees? (24 August)
... that the swamp musk shrew scrambles around among aquatic vegetation in the dark? (25 August)
... that the rock parrot often nests in the old burrows of seabirds? (26 August)
... that the bush cricket Ruspolia nitidula(pictured) is commonly eaten in Uganda, where the
price per unit weight is periodically higher than that of beef? (26 August)
... that despite its reported disappearance from Britain and other European countries, the fountain spleenwort is still considered to have a stable population trend? (27 August)
This is for your valuable efforts for countering
Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATHSLOPU09:54, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
The 2019 WikiCup is in its fifth and final round, with two of the eight remaining contestants from the ToL community. The 2016 winner Casliber is in first place as of 1 October, and Enwebbb is in seventh place.
Getting spooky for Halloween
It's the most wonderful time of the year...Halloween, that is. With articles on
skeleton frogs,
ghost bats, and
Satanic nightjars, Wikipedia has more spooky taxa than a graveyard has ghosts. In the new
Spooky Species Contest, Tree of Life editors are turning Wikipedia into Spookypedia, working from a crowd-sourced list of taxa. There's still time to sign up! How can you let an article like Draculoides bramstokeri pass you by?
Welcoming WikiProject Diptera and Project Creation Trends
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This month saw a vanishingly rare occurrence for the Tree of Life: a new WikiProject joined the fold.
WikiProject Diptera, however, is also unusual in being a
classroom project. Whether or not this project will stay active once the semester ends remains to be seen. It does not bode well, however, that WP:WikiProject Vespidae—a creation from the same instructor at St. Louis University—faded to obscurity shortly after the fall semester concluded in 2014. WikiProject Vespidae is defunct and now redirects to the Hymenoptera task force of WikiProject Insects.
Since 2014, the Tree of Life has seen a string of years where one or zero projects or task forces were created. The only projects and task forces created since then are
WikiProject Animal anatomy (2014),
Hymenoptera task force (2016),
Bats task force (2017),
WikiProject Hypericaceae (2018), and now WikiProject Diptera (2019). The year 2006 saw the greatest creation of WikiProjects and task forces, with fourteen still active and the remaining six as "semiactive", "inactive", or "defunct".
September DYKs
Enischnomyia fossil in Dominican amber
Lebombo wattle in the sand forest
Betula leopoldaeleaf fossil
Pholiota squarrosoides
Lady Burton's rope squirrel
A child picks chili peppers in an Indonesian home garden.
... that the Ethiopian epauletted fruit bat uses its hind feet to comb its fur and its tongue to wash its face, wing membranes, and genital region? (3 September)
... that the scaly ground roller mostly eats earthworms and centipedes, but has been known to also eat frogs, lizards, and shrews? (4 September)
The first Spooky Species Contest wrapped up this week. Two articles were promoted to Good Article as a result (
Halloween darter and
Deathwatch beetle) and three Did You Know hooks on Halloween were related to the contest (Halloween darter,
skeleton frog, and
Coffin Cave mold beetle. Two new articles were created, including Longan witches broom-associated virus and Boophis popi, the skeleton frog species that appeared at DYK.
The
2020 Community Wishlist Survey is live (focusing on non-Wikipedia content projects), with two proposals so far for WikiSpecies. The Wikimedia Foundation will prioritize the top 5 proposals across all sister projects.
The 2019
WikiCup has finally concluded, with Casliber taking home the bronze. The bulk of their points this round came from two Featured Articles:
rock parrot and
western yellow robin.
Alphabet Soup: Explaining DYK, GA, FA, and More
By request from another editor, this month I wrote an overview of ways that content is featured on Wikipedia. Below I have outlined some of the processes for getting content featured:
Did You Know (DYK)
What is it: A way for articles to appear on the main page of Wikipedia. A short hook in the format of "Did you know...that ___" presents unusual and interesting facts to the reader, hopefully making the reader want to click through to the article
How it works: The DYK process has fairly low barriers for participation. The
eligibility criteria are few and relatively easy to meet. Some important guidelines:
To be eligible, article is either new (newly created or moved to mainspace), a 5x expansion, or passed a GA review. Its creation, expansion, or promotion to GA must have been in the past 7 days.
Article must be long enough, with more than 1,500 characters of prose (this doesn't include embedded lists)
The process for creating the nomination is somewhat tedious. Instructions can be found
here (official instructions) and
here ("quick and nice" guide to DYK). Experience is the best teacher here, so don't be afraid to try and fail a few times. The last few DYK nominations I've done, however, have been with the help of
SD0001's DYK-helper script, which makes the process a bit more streamlined (you create the template from a popup box on the article; created template is automatically transcluded to nominations page and article talk page)
Once your nomination is created and transcluded, it will need to be reviewed. The reviewer will check that the article meets the eligibility criteria, that the hook is short enough, cited, and interesting, and that other requirements are met, such as for images. If you've been credited with more than 5 DYKs, the reviewer will also check that you've reviewed someone else's nomination for each article that you nominate. This is called QPQ (quid pro quo). You can check how many credited DYKs you've had
here to see if QPQ is required for you to nominate an article for DYK.
Good Article (GA)
What it is: A peer review process to determine that an article meets
a set of criteria. This adds a symbol to the top of the article. About 1 in 200 articles on Wikipedia is a GA.
How it works: You
follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Anyone can nominate an article—you don't have to be a major contributor, though it is considered polite to inform the major contributors that you are nominating the article. The article is added to a queue to await a review. In the ToL, it seems that reviews happen pretty quickly, thanks to our dedicated members. Once the review begins, the reviewer will offer suggestions to help the article meet the 6 GA criteria. Upon addressing all concerns, the reviewer will pass the article, and voilà! Good Article!
Advice to a first-time nominator: Look at other Good Articles in related areas before nominating. If you're unsure about nominating, consider posting to the talk page of your project to see what other editors think. You can also have a more experienced editor co-nominate the article with you.
Featured Article (FA)
What it is: An exhaustive peer review to determine that an articles meets the
criteria. This adds a to the top of the article. About 1 in 1,000 articles on Wikipedia is a FA.
How it works: You
follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Nominated articles are usually GAs already. Uninvolved editors can nominate, though the article's regular editors should be consulted first. Several editors will come by offering feedback, eventually supporting or opposing promotion to FA. A coordinator will determine if there is consensus to promote the article to FA. For an editor's first FA, spot checks to verify that the sources support the text are conducted.
Advice to a first-time nominator: The Featured Article Candidate (FAC) process is a bit intimidating, but several steps can make your first one easier (speaking as someone who has exactly one). If you also did the GA nomination of the article, you can ask the reviewer for "extra" feedback beyond the GA criteria. You can also formally request a
peer review and/or a
copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors to check for content and mechanics. First-time nominators are encouraged to seek the help of a
mentor for a higher likelihood of passing their first FAC.
Good and Featured Topics (GT and FT)
What it is: It took me a while to realize we even had GT and FT on Wikipedia, as they are not very common relative to GA and FA. Both GT and FT are collections of related articles of high quality (all articles at GA or FA, all lists at Featured List). GT/FT have to be at least 3 articles with no obvious gaps in coverage of the topic, along with
other criteria. For GT, all articles have to be GA quality and all lists must be FL. For FT, at least half the articles must be FA or FL, with the remaining articles at GA.
How it works:
Follow the nomination procedures for creating a new topic or adding an article to an existing topic. Other editors weigh in to support or oppose the proposal. Coordinators determine if there is consensus to promote to GT/FT.
Advice to a first-time nominator: There are very few GT/FT in Tree of Life (
5 GT and
11 FT). Most of the legwork appears to be improving a cohesive set of articles to GA/FA.
October DYKs
Female apple maggot
... that the silk made by webspinners is produced from glands on their forelegs? (1 October)
... that falguera, a plant known from only one valley in Spain, is threatened by rock climbers and by road maintenance? (1 October)
... that larvae of the drain fly can be found in
trickling filter systems used to process sewage? (6 October)
... that the correct spelling of "liliifolia" in the name of the
orchidLiparis liliifolia has been debated for decades? (7 October)
... that Polish entomologist Sergiusz Toll amassed a collection of about 8,000 bird eggs and 12,000 butterflies and moths while in
Bydgoszcz? (10 October)
... that the female garden symphylan stores sperm in its mouth? (11 October)
... that adult apple maggot flies (example pictured) use their wing patterns defensively to mimic spiders? (15 October)
... that structural biologist Erica Ollmann Saphire traveled to Africa to observe rodents in the field in order to study how viruses like
Ebola are spread? (31 October)
... that the common name of the Halloween darter refers to the orange and black coloration that individuals develop during the breeding season? (31 October)
Even while travelling you managed to catch me! Although, taking a look at your massive list of commonly misspelled words it seems only a matter of time before we're all caught at least once. Thank you for (independent)ly tidying up Wikipedia.
Pabsoluterince (
talk)
01:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
The
Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the
Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose
site bans,
topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The
arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
Good morning Orenburg1, with regard to
oldid 927812825 rollback, I wish to suggest to end the section titled " In art", with the following statement:
In some Early Christian sarcophagi, the Logos is distinguished with a beard, "which allows him to appear ancient, even preexistent. In the
Catacombs of Domitilla, located near Rome and dated to the fifth century, the
Holy Spirit God is depicted as a stylized Christian
dove with a branch of olive tree.
It recalls
Genesis 8:11–13, the announcement of peace after the human martyrdom of a Saint son of God like Domitilla, or of the enemies of Noah.
Logos is identified with Jesus Christ God and therefore would be appropriate to mention the Holy Spirit God'presence in the
Early Christian art and architecture. The latter WP article sources that this historical period extends from the 2nd century to 550 at the latest. Hence, it concerns the
Catacombs of Domitilla, which is dated to the fifth century CE.
I ask uniquely to add the sentences highlighted in the Italic font, but -in my modest and argumented opinion- it is highly possible that early Christian martyrs understood and believed all what I am going to summarize. This is an additional reason to mention the "Holy Spirit God as a dove" in
Pre-existence of Christ#In art.
While we have God the Father and God the Son depicted with a human-divine male body (both of them), the Holy Spirit God is depicted as one or more holy animals, whose feminine or masculine sex is not specified. it's a very relevant difference.
With the artistical and unusual choice of depicting a Divine Person with a common animal and not with a human and sexuated body, we note that early Christians thought the Holy Spirit to be God, but also something of radically different than the other two Divine Persons, who are represented as humans. This artistical choice for a holy place -like a burial- is uniquely possible because of the existence of multiple biblical references to this transubstantiaton of the Holy Spirit into an animal form, e.g. in the Pentecost narration. Differently from Indians in respect of cattles, we don't know early Christians worshiped any dove as being God, even if they had a respectful behavior for animals. So we can suppose they didn't think a dove was the "animal body" of the Holy Spirit God (an aniamal substance), nor that any dove was the corporeal house of an Holy Spirit (like Indians did), but that the Holy Spirit chose to "use" a common dove to appear to humans or that god the Creator gave life to a single animal specifically for that purpose.
Angels, which are created invisible and incorporeal (and therefore without sexuation), are created at image and similitude of the Holy Spirit God, which is the same divinity, but of a different substance than God the Father and God the Son.
Micheledisaveriosp Thank you for your comments on my deletion of your edit to the Pre-existence of Christ article which are both :comprehensive and polite. I shall try to respond in the same vein.
I make extensive, mostly small edits to Wikipedia, mainly to orthography. I am constantly amazed at the amount of unsourced material I :come across and perhaps have a tendency to delete what I perceive as unsourced edits rather readily, which is why I removed your :addition. I was somewhat surprised that an experienced editor made such an addition without a reference.
I think that you can find support for your proposed change in the reference that already occurs in that section - see pages 34 on, and later in the same book. I am not an expert in this field. I think however wider conclusions could be drawn than you are suggesting.
The
Wiki Science Competition has begun on Wikimedia Commons. Several flora and fauna images have already been uploaded (the image at left is my current favorite).
Several copepod species
Red deer
Teucrium polium
Ants cross chasm via body bridge
Sarus crane duet
NessieVL created a
Decemberween contest to improve taxa related to winter holidays. Loopy30 is out to an early lead, but with the bonus system for page views, there's still time for GA writers to hit a couple of home runs on some of the bigger articles like
reindeer and
mistletoe.
Though it didn't make it onto the main page in time for Halloween,
Satanic nightjar made a splash nevertheless, cracking the list of
non-lead DYK hooks with at least 15,000 views. The article was viewed nearly 17,000 times while on the main page (a typical day for the article is 10-15 views).
Class is in Session in the Tree of Life
In an interesting turn of events, this month's guest column is by my alter-ego, Elysia (Wiki Ed):
*Puts on Wiki Education hat* Hi everyone, I'm Elysia and I work for Wiki Education. You may know me as Enwebb. I got a request last month to let you know how Wiki Education is intersecting with the Tree of Life subprojects. As one of Wiki Education's major goals is to improve topics related to the sciences, leading to our
Communicating Science initiative, we end up supporting quite a few in the biological sciences. Here are the TOL-related courses active this term:
What is the impact of student editors in Tree of Life?
Altogether, these 16 courses have 347 student participants. As the end of the semester hasn't come yet, these numbers are still growing, but these students have:
And while long-term participation from students is low, there's always the chance that we'll discover a Wikipedian. I had never edited before my Wikipedia assignment in 2017 and I'm still here nearly 20,000 edits later! After I poked around in the beginning of the semester, I had the realization that not many people write Wikipedia, and very few of those have a special interest in bats. If I didn't stick around to write the content, there was no guarantee that it would ever get done.
Why are species articles suitable for students?
Writing about taxonomic groups is a great fit for students, as it keeps them away from areas where new editors traditionally struggle. The notability policy is generous towards taxa, and there is little danger of a student's work getting removed for lack of notability; this is to be expected when students write biographies. Students may struggle with encyclopedic tone for biographies and stray towards promotional writing, but this is much less common when writing about a shrew or algae!
Additionally, we're never going to run out of species to write about. Students have a bounty of stubs and redlinks to pick from. Creating a new article or expanding an existing one also takes a fairly predictable structure, with plenty of articles that students can model after.
Don't students just create messes for volunteers to clean up?
Our sincere hope is that, no, they don't, and we take several steps to try to minimize the burden on volunteer labor. With automatic plagiarism detection, alerts when students edit a Good or Featured Article, and notifications when students edit an article subject to discretionary sanctions, we try to stay ahead of problems as much as possible. We also review all student work at the end of each term. Ian, Shalor, and I are always happy to receive pings alerting us to student issues that need to be addressed.
November DYKs
Brants's whistling rat
Female black-capped tanager
... that Brants's whistling rat(illustration shown) seldom ventures more than 30 cm (12 in) from one of the many entrances to its burrow? (4 November)
... that poison devil's-pepper has been used both as rat poison and as a traditional medicine for humans? (6 November)
... that the lamenting grasshopper seems to be expanding its range northwards in Italy, possibly as a result of climate change? (10 November)
... that each Xyloterinus politus larva has its own individual cradle? (12 November)
... that the assassin bug Rhynocoris marginatus injects venomous saliva into its prey to paralyse it? (13 November)
... that botanist George R. Proctor collected more than 55,000 specimens, had 31 species named after him, and was convicted of a conspiracy to murder his wife? (14 November)
... that the bark of Guibourtia tessmannii is much esteemed in traditional medicine and is often removed from living trees? (15 November)
... that the female black-capped tanager(pictured) moulds her nest by vibrating in it? (18 November)
... that the Satanic nightjar can make a growling noise when disturbed? (21 November)
... that infestations of Leptoconops torrens biting flies have halted construction and farming projects in California? (22 November)
... that the male of the hoverfly species Syritta pipiens darts sharply in flight to facilitate mating? (23 November)
... that the tree Drypetes gerrardii was named after
William Gerrard, who collected plants in southern Africa in the 1860s? (25 November)
On December 10th, the IUCN updated 8,225 species assessments, including 6,722 that were added to the list for the first time. All eucalypt species have officially been evaluated by the IUCN with this update. Several birds were newly declared extinct (
poʻouli,
cryptic treehunter,
Alagoas foliage-gleaner) and one declared extinct in the wild (
Spix's macaw). The official press release is
here.
Sign-ups are open for the
2020 WikiCup, a months-long competition where editors score points by improving articles. Sign-ups are open through 31 January.
The Tree of Life was featured in The Signpost as a
WikiProject report, eight years after it was
last featured. This marked the return of the WikiProject report after a year hiatus.
Editor Spotlight: Plantdrew
We're joined this month by long-time editor Plantdrew, who's currently engaged in streamlining the taxonomic structure of Wikipedia articles via the
automated taxobox system.
How did you become a Wikipedian? What are your particular interests (besides the obvious of "plants")?
My first job out of school in was working for
ITIS; entering new species, mostly fish. At that time, ITIS was the single largest taxonomic database, and I was enthusiastic about the prospects for the eventual completion of a comprehensive global taxonomic resource. I moved on to other things, and fews years later I became aware of Wikipedia and eventually Wikispecies. At that time (~2007), It seemed to me that Wikispecies might be the best prospect for a comprehensive global taxonomic resource. ITIS had a team of 5 data developers when I worked there, while Wikispecies had a substantially larger editor base and was growing faster than ITIS (although still smaller than ITIS). I did a little bit of editing at Wikispecies at that point, but stopped after being frustrated that a project that easily could have been a structured database had little consensus for any particular standards or structures.
As Wikipedia grew, I found myself using it more and more as a reference. Eventually I started making occasional editing as an IP to fix errors I noticed. I finally registered an account when I needed to create an article; there was an article purportedly about an insect genus, but all the information pertained to a particular species, so I created an article for the species and moved information there. I started finding more cases where Wikipedia was conflating different topics; plant product derived from multiple species with a taxobox for one species, the common name for a fairly well known fruit needing disambiguation against an obscure French town. At that point I was hooked and started making more substantial contributions. It also was apparent that while the English Wikipedia might not outpace Wikispecies in article count, it had better representation of organisms that more people were interested in, and was attracting far more readers. For the first few years I was active, I focused on adding redirects for (unambigous)) vernacular names, and resolving ambiguous vernacular names.
Aside from plants, I'm interested in slime molds, fungi, and various sessile and slow-moving animals (I like things that can be observed without them running away). I've had some short term work experience with fishes (ITIS), mammals, birds and insects.
What projects are keeping you busy around the 'pedia at present?
Well, I'm not much of a content creator. I mostly do gnomish edits.
Every day, I try to look through the all the new articles for the ToL subprojects that have new article reports set up (which reminds me, we should really get a ToL-wide new article report going). Many new articles are created by experienced ToL editors whose names I recognize, and I don't do much to check their work. For unfamiliar editors, I tag articles for the appropriate WikiProject, and check for formatting, grammar, etc. A couple years ago, I was just about the only person checking new ToL articles, but recently other ToL editors have stepped up.
Since early 2017, my main project has been converting manual taxoboxes to automatic taxoboxes. That has me going through articles systematically, and since I'm editing them anyway there are a bunch of other changes I make as necessary. Checking that classification is up-to-date, standardizing formatting, adding inline citations, refining categories, adding images if any are available on Commons, adding additional IDs to taxonbars in cases of monotypy, creating/categorizing redirects. I've slowly been working through plant articles, with occasional forays into other groups of organisms. Some of these tasks weren't part of my work flow when I first started, and there are some tasks that I could be doing, but haven't bothered with (short descriptions, certain types of categories). I expect it'll take about another year for me to finish up with plant automatic taxoboxes, and then I'm sure I'll have to find something else to do.
What's your favorite plant?
I couldn't pick just one. Pseudotsuga is the dominant tree where I grew up, and it always makes me happy to be back in a Douglas fir forest. Asimina triloba is my favorite wild edible plant that grows where I live now. I studied Berberis thunbergii as an invasive species in grad school, and have a love/hate relationship with it now (mostly hate, but it remains interesting).
Belgian endive is my favorite vegetable without a Wikipedia article. I'm fond of
Lamiaceae in general, and while many species are used as herbs, I'm particularly interested in mints with other uses; Salvia hispanica as a pseudo-cereal, Plectranthus rotundifolius as a root crop, and Salvia divinorum as psychoactive plant with mysterious origins (is it a cultigen?).
What's your background like? How did you come to have a special interest in biology?
I grew up in a rural area and spent a lot of time playing in the woods and working in the garden, so I interacted a lot with plants as a child. My mother's parents were (insect) taxonomists (and a great-grandparent had a keen interest in natural history). My mother was pretty comfortable with scientific names, and after my parents settled in a part of the country with many plants they hadn't been familiar with, she learned the new plants by scientific names. I knew a bunch of plants by scientific names from an early age long before I realized that other people had different names for them. When I was a little older I became interested in edible wild plants. I remained interested in plants in general, and when I was in college and discovered the discipline of ethnobotany, which really tied together the general botany side of my interests with the edible plant side.
What's something that would surprised TOL editors about your life off-wiki?
Birders have
life lists of species they've seen. I have a life list of plant species I've eaten. I enjoy shopping at international grocery stores, looking for new plants to try (or different preparations of unusual plants I've already tried). I've made two trips to a city 5 hours away just to shop at a store that I'm pretty sure is the largest international grocery store in the United States. My best Christmas gift this year was a box with little sample packs of 14 different species of dried fruits and herbs from Australia. I'd prefer to try the fruits fresh, but without making a trip to Australia, this is my best opportunity to try some of the major bushfoods.
Anything else you'd like us to know?
Editing Wikipedia has been a rewarding hobby for me, and although I haven't done a lot of direct collaboration with other editors, the ToL community seems pretty friendly and relatively conflict free. ToL is a good bunch of people.
December DYKs
Member of genus Chrysomya
Mekong Bobtail
... that the tapping sound of the deathwatch beetle has long been considered an omen of an impending death? (1 December)
... that Chinese virologist George F. Gao led a test laboratory in Sierra Leone during the peak of the
2014 Ebola outbreak? (1 December)
... that the chirps of the snowy tree cricket can be used to estimate the temperature? (2 December)
... that research on
pain in fish by Victoria Braithwaite resulted in new rules in the UK, Europe, and Canada to make fisheries more humane? (2 December)
... that plant physiologist Hu Dujing cultivated Eucommia ulmoides to produce a substitute for rubber? (3 December)
... that Rhagoletis juglandis is a species of fly that infests walnuts? (3 December)
... that the granulate ambrosia beetle is native to Asia but has spread as an invasive species to Africa, the Americas, Europe, and Oceania? (5 December)
... that the Peleng tarsier, a small carnivorous
primate, can rotate its head nearly 180 degrees in either direction? (7 December)
... that infestations of the cotton jassid can be reduced by growing a cotton cultivar with hairy leaves? (14 December)
... that Coelopa pilipes fly populations can live at temperatures of 40 °C (104 °F) within piles of
kelp, even in areas covered with snow and ice? (18 December)
... that Hirtodrosophila mycetophaga mate on
bracket fungi, selectively choosing those with a lighter surface to enhance the visibility of their courtship displays? (19 December)
... that after laying its eggs on a leaf, the female mango leaf-cutting weevil severs the leaf near its base and lets it fall to the ground? (30 December)
Hi, I am going to be making a major change to the List of fugitives from justice who disappeared that will mostly likely be good for it. Can you help me with this? If so I will let you know what help I will need.
Davidgoodheart (
talk)
01:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi
I am new to adding info to Wikipedia. I see that you removed my edit and stated it was inappropriate. The info that I added is 100% correct. When you use the term inappropriate are you saying that it is because I have put something in the wrong place? I don’t know how to add he info in it’s correct section, and tried for many hours to do so. I added it at the top of the page so hopefully some kind soul would either show me how to do it, or add it for me. I saw no option to assist in doing this. In this sense the use of the word “inappropriate isn’t really the case. Unfortunately the meaning of this word these days implies that there has been some wrong doing on someone’s part. I assume that you do not think that I have done something or behaved in some way inappropriately. Perhaps you can clarify this. Also I have some info to add to the Walter Koenig filmography. I don’t want to make the same mistake again, perhaps you would be good enough to help me. If you do respond to this message, I must confess I don’t know how to look up to see the reply. It is only by chance that I saw that my post had been removed. As I said I am a complete newbie to trying to edit. Please remember that at some point in time it was everyone’s first attempt.
Hello, I have noticed you "correcting" the spelling of pronomial to pronominal, however the former is not incorrect, they are just two similarly spelled words that mean the same thing. (Although until now I had never heard of the latter word.) I don't see any benefits from these changes. But perhaps you do, so I just wanted to give you the opportunity to explain why pronominal is preferable over pronomial.
AquitaneHungerForce (
talk)
09:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi
AquitaneHungerForce I am working my way thru the WP lists of misspellings and have reached P which lists pronomial as a misspelling of pronominal. Considering their size the lists have relatively few errors although I have come across a couple. An online search of the OED and Merriam-Webster gives only pronominal with no apparent results for pronomial. My papercopy of the shorter OED has only pronominal. This of course is not necessarily conclusive. Regards
Orenburg1 (
talk)
07:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
sorry
Sorry sir I don't know alibaba marjinaa article edit suckpuppet.
I very sorry please don't block me please I have a promise next time I not editing suckpuppet please I very very sorry
ध्रुविल९०१२ (
talk)
08:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello Orenburg1, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this
seasonal occasion. Spread the
WikiLove by wishing another user a
Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021. Happy editing, RAJIVVASUDEV (
talk)
14:54, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi
Cornerstone2.0. The sentence does not make a lot of sense without the word fleet'.
I originally reverted your previous edit to change aircrafts to aircraft as the singular and plural of aircraft are the same in English, but see that I reverted to a version that was still confusing.
I suggest that the opening sentence should simply read:
"
Virgin Atlantic operates a fleet of all widebody aircraft from both Airbus and Boeing."
This makes the opening sentence simple to read and the details of the fleet and its development can then be dealt with in detail in the following sections which probably is easier in the long run as these change relatively frequently. I see that you have done a pretty good job on these sections by the way.
If you have a moment, could you revert the IP's edit to this article? I can't seem to make them understand that they cannot add unsourced "soon to be published" information to Wikipedia articles, and they just keep restoring it. I've filed an edit warring report.
Beyond My Ken (
talk)
07:40, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
I was unaware of the Wikipedia convention regarding quotation marks but I have now corrected this egregious and regrettable error. Regards.
Orenburg1 (
talk)
20:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC)