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- Firstly for proper viewing, it is recommended to keep all links NOT-UNDERLINED. Otherwise the मात्रा below the Hindi alphabets might get partly hidden behind the underlines. For this, please go to My Preferences (मेरी पसंद) at the top of the page, then click Misc., and then choose "underline links -> Never". Save your settings. Also, do not click yes for "justify paragraphs", otherwise on some browsers, the devanagari script will appear highly distorted.
- All users are requested and encouraged to contribute articles here, especially, to create new articles on general topics. They are also encouraged to expand the existing articles, and improve upon them. A non-user can also do the same; it is recommended but not required to register yourself as a wikipedian user at the Hindi wikipedia. As far as possible, each article should be written with a Neutral Point of View (NPOV)—no nationalistic or partiality or hatred based articles are welcome. The articles should be based on facts—and appropriate references should be provided as and where needed. See the English wiki's help page for editing in general. Almost all the general wiki-features are available for editing on Hindi wiki too. Guidelines for the content matter is mostly the same as given in English wiki.
- Since the Hindi wiki is at its initial stages, users are welcome to take introduction and basic points from the English (or another) wikipedia's corresponding article and translate them for small articles. An in-page link to the English wiki's article will be deemed sufficient for references (a template might be created stating this). For longer articles, it is recommended to mention the references separately.
- Since most computer users in India and elsewhere have the standard Western-type keyboard, it is best recommended (but not necessarily required) to use the virtual (software) keyboard like the one of Hindimozhi or of ISIS (Tavultesoft Keyman)—which are freewares. These are advantageous because the contemporary Hindi-speakers in India often write messages/chat using Hindi words but written in Roman (English) script, and the layout of these keyboards is quite the same that such people use. For example, using the "normal" keyboard with this software, typing ga would give ग and ghaa would give घा.
- Create the article with its name written in Hindi (devanagari script). Always take care to include the nukta (dot below) for foreign / Urdu loanwords wherever it occurs in the standard spelling. For non-Indian names, use that spelling (for article name and other words) which is commonly encountered in Hindi newspapers, G.K.-books, Hindi-dubbed TV documentaries and Hollywood films and magazines. e.g., America-अमरीका (या अमेरिका), China-चीन, French-फ़्रांसिसी. For English acronyms/short-forms, use the initials in Roman script, and again create a full form in Hindi and redirect it to the short form. e.g. IPA (अन्तर्राष्ट्रीय ध्वनि वर्णाक्षर); UNO (संयुक्त राष्ट्र संघ). Doing the opposite is also fine. But creating the article with the Hindi short form, as सं०रा०सं०, is not recommended. Also, the article proper must be written with the proper nukta, as फ़ारसी, and then, a non-nukta (mis-)spelt version फारसी should preferably be created to redirect to the correct spelling.
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- English should be used sparingly, only when required; i.e., if the corresponding शुद्ध हिन्दी word is too "difficult and not generally encountered", or if it is a proper name of non-Indian person/place/terminology/title, or if the user is highly unsure of the proper translation. It is recommended (but not required) for English-to-Hindi translation while writing articles, the Shabdkosh online dictionary should be used. For each English word, that alternative should be used which is generally encountered in everyday spoken Hindi, and also fits well into the context. Use of intelligent guesses for newly encountered words is also allowed, and so are translations encountered in Hindi-dubbed TV documentaries, Hollywood films, Hindi-translated books, etc. e.g., दमपिशाच for en:Dementor (used in dubbed HP films).
- If used, it is recommended to use the English words within the articles using the English (Roman) alphabets rather than devanagari (or better, the devanagari transliteration should be used in the sentence, followed by the English word in Roman alphabet in parentheses). Such words should be italicized and not put in quotation marks. Preferably, there should be an in-page interwiki link (like :en:) on the word to the English wikipedia. If the word comes as an integral part of a sentence, so as not to break the continuity, the en: prefix should be hidden by writing the word again after the pipe sign (piped link). Thus, recommended:
हैरी पॉटर ने ''[[:en:Pensieve|Pensieve]]'' के अन्दर ''[[:en:Little Hangleton|Little Hangleton]]'' गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ ''[[:en:Merope Gaunt|Merope Gaunt]]'' को देखा. ''[[:en:Resplendent Quetzal|Resplendent Quetzal]]'' पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० ''[[:en:Pablo de la Llave|Pablo de la Llave]]'' ने काफ़ी शोध किया था.
Whence,
- हैरी पॉटर ने Pensieve के अन्दर Little Hangleton गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ Merope Gaunt को देखा
- Resplendent Quetzal पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० Pablo de la Llave ने काफ़ी शोध किया था
- Always start the first 1 or 2 lines of the article giving its definition (from any standard dictionary/other wiki) or suitable introduction. Thus, recommended: ललिता सहस्रनामन हिन्दू धर्मसुधारक आदि शंकराचार्य द्वारा रचित देवी दुर्गा को समर्पित एक पूजा-मन्त्र है, जिसे कई हिन्दू रोज़ श्रद्धा से जपते हैं । But not: ललिता सहस्रनामन मन्त्र जपने के लिये लड्डू-पेड़ा, ताम्बुल, सिन्दूर, लाल चुनरी के साथ नित्य इस मन्त्र का पाठ करें, तो जल्द ही गड़ा हुआ ख़जाना मिलेगा । Recommended: वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी ( en:Aeronautical engineering) विमानों ( en:Aircrafts) की अभिकल्पना, निर्माण और प्रचालन करने का विज्ञान, कला और कार्य है । (translated from Eng. Webster's New World Dictionary). But not: आजकल वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी के लिये देशभर में कई कॉलेज खुल गये हैं, जिनमें अग्रणी स्थान यूटोपिया स्थित लालू-यादव टेक्लिनक कॉलेज का है ।
- For names of countries, cities, places, languages, people, books, films, technical vocabulary, mythology, etc, start the article like this:
- 1.
The name in bold ('''अपोलो''')
- 2.
starting parenthesis, then English name in Roman script, in-page interwiki-linked to English wiki ff. by semicolon ((अंग्रेज़ी : [[:en:Apollo]];)
- 3.
The native name(s) if applicable in the italicized native script, preferably followed either by its italicized approximate Hindi pronunciation or non-italicized
phonological transcriptionwithin / /, ff. by closed parenthesis (यूनानी : ''Aπollων अपोल्लोन''))
- 4.
the rest of the definition or introduction (प्राचीन [[यूनानी धर्म]] (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन [[रोमन धर्म]] के सर्वोच्च देवता थे ।)
For country names, only the standard short form of the name is needed in the first line. If there is a common name for a difficult word in Hindustani, also mention it. Whence: अपोलो (अंग्रेज़ी : en:Apollo; यूनानी : Aπollων अपोल्लोन) प्राचीन यूनानी धर्म (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन रोमन धर्म के सर्वोच्च देवता थे । If you don't give the interwiki English/another language link (which would be deemed to be the default reference), then you MUST provide an appropriate reference.- Please leave no article without an appropriate category. See the list of created categories here; you can also make a new category (pref. in Hindi). Please leave no article without at least ONE off page (like en:) interwiki link. E.g., the user can check the article name (say Apollo) on the finally redirected English page and append to the Hindi article (
[[en:Appolo]])
). These interlanguage links will help a bot to update all interwiki links for that article in all wikipedias. The category and the aforementioned link should be typed at the end of the article. If the article is very small, mention it as a stub/substub.- Use of templates is welcome. See the list of templates here. If creating a template, name it pref. in Hindi.
- Use पूर्णविराम ( । ) instead of a period (.) for ending statements. The पूर्णविराम, semicolon, colon and dash (but not comma) must come after one space after the word to prevent ambiguity. Use the international form of the Hindu-Arabic numerals (1,2,3 instead of १,२,३), as used by the Constitution and the Government of India (even for Hindi). There is no need to use the हलन्त at the end of Sanskrit words wherever it occurs. Hence, prefer: संसद over संसद्; अथर्वन over अथर्वन्. Use the proper quotation marks “” from the Insert toolbox, not "". Write dates as 2 मई 2006 (ईसवी or ईसापूर्व). Write time as 3:45 pm. Separate common suffix-words like शास्त्र, विज्ञान, ज्ञान with a hyphen. Thus: रसायन-शास्त्र. For most others, leave both the words of the noun-cluster free. Combine them into one word only if it is very common to do so. Thus: सामवेद.
- The use of ज़ for the en:voiced alveolar fricative (/z/, as in zoo, rose) is fundamentally wrong. Its nearest counterpart is the en:voiceless alveolar fricative /s/ (as in sea), and not Hindi ज ( en:voiced palatal plosive). Hence, it is suggested and recommended that for the sound /z/, whether it comes in English (etc.) spellings (z) for while pronunciation otherwise, should be transcribed as स़ (स with a dot below, available in the Insert toolbox). Hence: Reason रीस़न, not रीज़न ; Roses रोस़ेस़, not रोज़ेज़. But common Hindi words borrowed from Persian/Arabic (so-called Urdu words) are allowed to continue with ज़ spelling. Thus: ज़रा, नज़र, तर्ज़. The en:voiced postalveolar fricative (/ʒ/ as in treasure), inexistent in Hindi, can similarly be transcribed with श़. Thus: treasure ट्रॅश़र. The nukta (dot) available in the Insert toolbox can be combined with various consonants to suggest a more exact phonetic devanagari rendering of foreign sounds. E.g., since phonetically, English Think and this are not equal to थिंक and दिस, a better transcription could be थ़िंक and द़िस. Please take care of the dot below in so-called Urdu words, otherwise the Hindi spelling is deemed incorrect.
- For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.
- Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.
- When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.
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Thank you,
Cygnus_hansa 02:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
-Hello:
About the Great/Major Power status of Italy look at wikipedia Global Power article: "A global power or world power is a term that refers to a country that has overwhelming power over all other nations in the world. Countries like the United States, the United Kingdom, China, Germany, Russia, France, Japan, Italy and India are all major world powers. Many would also regard the European Union as a global power in its own right. A world power usually has a huge population, a strong industrial economy, armed forces capable of extending political influence beyond borders and, preferably, permanent membership in the UN Security Council."
And sorry if you think I was insulting you or something, I just tought you were making a complot against Italy.
ACamposPinho 0:09, 7 June 2006
ACamposPinho 1:23,27 June 2006
Noble, You must have been mistaken. It was Hinduism that was nominated to FARC by User:Blacksun, India was not. - Ganeshk ( talk) 23:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Thanks for the template too. Should I put it up on my userpage? - Cribananda 06:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I wanted the page to be protected.It was just a request for protection but the page --
Khatri never got protected despite the template.
Holywarrior
06:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting my Request for Adminship! I appreciate it and will do my best to maintain the faith you have shown in me! – Ben W Bell talk 07:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
"Regarding sources. In Rome be like Romans. Where were the sources for Germany, FRance, India, UK, etc? Self-Knowledge. Sources for India? There are over 100 in India as an emerging superpower, all the entries on India on Major power, Great power, Regional power and Superpower were created using the information on that page. PS. this isn't a prompt to pick up 100 sources on Italy... :D Nobleeagle (Talk) 05:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)"
Self-knowledge? So,you ask me sources for Italy and for the others the answer is self knowledge. Because they are more talked about. My friend, winners writte historyand Italy "lost" WWII. Germany lost too, but since reunification its willing to be in the winners side. Almost all that was written about Italy in anglo-saxon books, specially British ones, can't be taken into account with all trust. Many things are distortioned and before and during the WWII, British media was very anti-italian. After the war,they looked down at Italy as a minor partner, when the economic miracle began and Italy became a Major Industrial Power, they only considered its economy and with a little more respect its political scene,but never with the respect it deserves. Italy has all the attributes, it only needs a strong leader and then you will see. Imagine Italy with a Charles de Gaulle as its guidance!!!! You have the tendence to look down at Italy, because of Anglo-American taughts and then you call India an Emerging Superpower. If Brazil was a potential Major Power, thing it isn't,India is even less. My source is a recent (2003-4) Atlas in which Brazil comes as the first power of the Third World. If this is the case, altought I don't agree totally, where is India. Bellowof course.But I think India is well ahead of Brazil,but considering it Emerging SuperPower? And what about China? Two Emergent SuperPowers that confine with each other?....
100 sources for India? Not very difficult. First of all India as many languages,so books and sources must be translated for the different languages, then its languages are not understand outside India, so must be translated to English, French, Chinese, Russian and so on. Then nowadays people talk much of India, because of its cheap labour and its industrial growth, because of that fact. When the italian economic miracle happened, realpolitik and geostrategy and military counted more than nowadays and perhaps more than economy, so Italy was not so talked, besides the fact of communication being most difficult than now. Now economy rules and communication is light-years ahead, so indeveloped countries we talk more of new emergent economies, as a source of investment. To finish I or anyone could easily find 100 and many more sources for Italy. Even for smaller countries, like Spain, Canada or Australia for ex. For Italy, in their National Libraries there are plenty of sources, then there are italian Institutes like ISTAT, Censis,Ministeries specially of Economy and Finances, Defence, Industry, Enea, Mediobanca's MBRES, Sviluppo Italia national enterprise, Limes magazine, Aeronautica e Difesa and so many others I don't have time and space to writte all. Just to let you know,when you say Self-Knowledge, you mean a little common knowledge of facts, I have Self-Knowledge of Italy in all its dimensions and I really know about this, so why don't you believe in one who really knows?
ACamposPinho 12 June 2006, 2:44
ACamposPinho 2:02, 14 June 2006
Hello there, fancy raising your blood pressure? Then pop along to the Superpowers page and contribute to the whole 'EU as a Superpower' debate :)
Something so blatantly wrong (and still unsourced) really shouldn't stay. However User:Ruber_chiken seems to be arguing that the US is not properly sourced either, so both should stay. In fact he seems to be quite excited by the whole EU thing, I've just noticed that he's made the Regional power page very EU centric.
Best wishes, Xdamr talk 23:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
If it would become a Superpower, it would be a supranational Superpower, never a Superpower nation. And if it will integrate more, I think it could have the same fate of USSR or Yugoslavia and some of the countries of these former nations are already in the EU,with others trying to enter, if they breaked up nations more homogeneous, they were all slavic, imagine what could happen to EU.
ACamposPinho 1:58, 14 June 2006
I agree with Campos and the general consensus here that the EU is not a country and therefore not a superpower. If so, then join Canada and Mexico to the US as well since there is a FTA between them but no political unity just like the EU. As I said many times before, the EU is nothing more than a French attempt to regain world prominence by convincing other european countries to join with them to outshine the US. The standard line is we are all european. Of course no one talks about who is leading the orchestra. The French want to recreate the Frankish Empire or Napoleon's Empire, the Germans think they are recreating the Holy Roman Empire, the Italians think it's the reborn Roman Empire, the Greeks think it's a unified Graeco-Roman civilisation, the others are looking for handouts or security, and the English...yes the english. The English or British are there to make sure it doesn't happen.
Also I have an observation to make. It seems that whoever is just below the US is automatically the other superpower. Today it seems to be China since the collapse of the Soviet Union. My opinion is that the US needs the other superpower in order to define itself. It gives a sense of purpose for the US, for its people. If one didn't exist, they would create one. -- 70.50.99.178 Hadrian 01:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
As for the USA you are right, they need a counterpoint in order to exist as as Super or even HyperPower.
ACamposPinho 2:32, 15 June 2006
ACamposPinho 23:46,15 June 2006
What????The comission,represent the EU.How can you say that they are not direct actions of the EU.I really don't see where you get this one.-- Ruber chiken 05:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
ACamposPinho 22:21, 16 June 2006
Dear Nobleeagle, thanks so much for your support during my recent successful request for adminship. I really appreciate it. It's a pleasure working with great editors like yourself! How did you become a Philadelphia Flyers fan? Take care -- Samir धर्म 04:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC) |
Hello Nobleeagle,
I have proposed the following compromise and was wondering whether or not you'd concur with my proposition: (I have included an exerpt from the discussion page.)
I have re-read all the posts above and come to one interesting conlcusion. It seems that everybody arguing here except, X***, has stated that giving the EU its own section is a good idea. I would be fine with just sperating the EU from China and India but not putting it under Todays superpower. So here's my compromise, the EU gets a seperate section, not under "Today's superpower" but seperate from China and India. Would that be a good compromise?
Signature
brendel
16:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
why this source isn't good? [1]-- Ruber chiken 06:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
on the discusion it is ignored and the tags can't stay,so whats whrog with this refernce-- Ruber chiken 07:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
ok,how many referces do you whant?+1 from what i'll bring?It's not my fault that allmost all europien contries are in the EU.The north americanregion,don't have many contries.I didn't say to not mentione the more important incide the EU,what make you think that,my initial editing,didn't deleat the contries alredy mencioned,my problem is that the reader,is misled in whats going on in the region.They have given away to much soverenty,to ignore it.Thats what i proposed.that only nation should be included is your POV.-- Ruber chiken 07:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I whould like,that the reader understandes,that EU's soft power on it's nabors ,is not miningles.Like it is sujested by the article.With the promess of memebership it forces structural changes on it's nabors.From the poor nabors perspective,EU membership promisses subsedies,human rights,democracy,trade,euro memberchip,free movment of peopol.it's with that in mind that they began negotiations with turkey.I mean this is not conventional power,is unique.Isn't this power that deserves to be mencioned in the article.Well what do you now about the isue.-- Ruber chiken 08:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
The image was deleted from commons (Dwaipayan had uploaded it to commons. That is the reason why there were no deletion logs here), because it was licensed CC-NO DREVIS. The particular licence is allowed on wikipedia, and I've uploaded it here again. Cheers! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D eepu Joseph | TALK 09:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that. It's a pity, I quite liked the oversized X. Do you notice the problem on all pages I sign or was it just on one or two? I ask because it is my habit to insert an empty line between my last paragraph and my signature, I would have expected any alignment problems to be concealed by the empty line.
Xdamr talk 11:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello there. I posted a quick note on Hadrian1's talk page to congratulate him on the Great power source he came up with. I also threw in a few speculative remarks about this source giving good grounds for considering bringing the Major powers article back from the dead:
Any thoughts?
Xdamr talk 01:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
ACamposPinho 0:09, 21 June 2006
Thank you for your support in my RfA, which ended with the result of (74/0/0). If there is anything I can help with feel free to
ask. Also, if there is anything I am doing wrong, please point that out as well. I look forward to working with you in the future.
Highest regards, DVD+ R/W 02:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC) |
I have reverted your edits re chauhan/solanki and caste system
This is a complex and sensitive issue. Many will not agree with you.
Please do not make such edits.
You may communicate with me directly on this, if you like
Ravi Chaudhary 03:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Moderator3000 is blocked indefinately. I've also posted a notice on the talk page reminding the users to respect wikipedia policies. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
You might also want to use this page. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 00:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The same thing happened to the Bhagat Singh picture too. Just like the Cricket team pic, this was upload onto commons, and was deleted as its liscence was not provided by the uploader. [2] I think we should look for another image now. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D eepu Joseph | TALK 03:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I saw your comment about respected Indian admins. Please don't try to limit editing of articles to editors and admins from only one country or region. Everyone can edit. Admins worldwide can be respected. Hort Graz 00:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Nobleeagle, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I've got one too now!! Blnguyen | rant-line 00:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting me in my RFA. My Request was successful with 41 supports, 12 opposes and 5 neutrals, and I'll do my best to live up to your expectations. If in any point in the future you get the feeling I'm doing something wrong, do not hesitate to drop me a line. -- mtz206 ( talk) 02:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC) |
Hello Nobleeagle, I've posted answers to the questions you asked on my RfA. If there's anything else you would like to know, please feel free to ask. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 17:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Q: Do you have any criteria when voting in RFAs? If so please present them, if not then it doesn't matter.
How is that relevant to adminship? Everybody is equal in an RfA but crats, so adminship criteria should not matter unless it's an RfB. This just opens the door to people opposing because they disagree on some philosophy of a candidate, even though being an admin is completely separate from any implementation of that philosophy. -- Rory096 06:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I think you misunderstood what I was talking about. I agree with everything in the great powers article, and no, I don't beleive that Italy is a great power- maybe a regional power. I was talking about renaming The EU emerging superpower article to EU superpower controversy to avoid labeling the EU as an emerging superpower. Please see my post of Light the Trip Fantastic's talk page for more info on that. Best Regards, Signature brendel 08:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Good work on the power template. I would like to have African Century included though. While it is not about massive power, it is nevertheless about more economic and cultural (and religious) power, an African "revival" on the world stage. That's why I'll add it. If you disagree, let me know. Greetings, Sijo Ripa 10:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Ah, so that vote was yours! I was surprised to see that you didn't seem to have voted. So if you don't like the current structure, and you didn't like my proposal, then do you have any suggestions?
I think that we have general agreement that the current factors for/against setup is poor; quite frankly it seems vaguely amateurish and overly simplistic. I did try to kick off a debate on the subject, but no-one seemed to want to bite.
I'm not really concerned with pushing one structure over another, but I do want to see the current one go. If you have any suggestions then I'd be glad to hear them.
Regards, Xdamr talk 16:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi there Nobleeagle. You should take a look. Very POV inflammatory edits over the weekedn. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
And Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh as well. User:Ibrahimfaisal is well known to many high-end admins for fundamentalist POV-pushing. Blnguyen | rant-line 00:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
hey dude.. I added the section Hindu Muslim Conflict to article Islam in India, You may want to comment. Thank you Peace alwayz -- Sartaj beary 18:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Since you are the administrator for the great power page, I want to make a formal request to have the page translated into Italian. I can do it but I really don't where to start. I have seen that the page is in German and Spanish though the Spanish page is a stub. In order to get true world representation, the more languages the better. If someone wants to check my translation to ensure I am not changing the text to my personal POV, I would be happy to comply.
-- Hadrian1 00:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I think he copied the thing straight out of mine, which I now deleted. The admin stuff isn't inappropriate, it simply won't work if you try and do any sysop function with it - I think. It also has this thing which automatically leaves a notice of all the admin backlogs on the top of the page so that you can get a notice of when CAT:CSD is piled up, etc. BTW, do you have Rajiv Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi on your watchlist. User:Lankanboy stuck a POV rant on the former and it was there for eight hours, until about 20mins ago. Regards, Blnguyen | rant-line 00:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC).
" They believe these standards have been in place in the united India since Partition, where Hindus living in Pakistan were forced to evacuate and Muslims living in India were not " Is your example of differing standards for minorities and Hindus in India. My response to that
If you have put this as an example then it does show that you beleive this is an example of different standards (never heard this one as an example for differing standard before so it is original) and subscribe to the POV that Muslims should have been pushed out of the country. Haphar 10:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the additional questions, ive now answered them on the rfa, thanks Benon 22:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi! I wish to draw your attention to the Khalistan article and my message on the talk page of user:lostintherush. Regards, AnwarA 19:21, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Nobleeagle,
Thanks for voting! Hello Nobleeagle/Archive3, and thanks for your support in my recent RfA. I'm pleased to announce that it passed with a final tally of (96/0/0). I was overwhelmed by all of the nice comments and votes of confidence from everyone. Thanks again, and see you around! OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
Hi! When I tought you were an admnistrator was because of the sentence above. It's someone thanking you for your support for his/her RfA. I tought it was the contrary.
On the Great Power page as I said more then once there are some errors and lacks. And I'm not talking of Italy now. I'm talking about when "you" reshaped the page. First Portugal was there and now it isn't.Whats the matter, Portugal was never a Great Power? And when Portugal and Spain dominated the world long before Britain, France, Austria, Russia, Netherlands and even earlier than Prussia/Germany,Italy, USA, USSR? And Venice, before the discover of the "New World" and new ways to India, Venice was a major commercial and trading power with Asia and a Great Power in Europe. And even in "New World" it had indirectly influence- were came the name Venezuela from- Venice, Venezuela means little Venice. Can I improve the page with Venice inclusion and Portugal re-inclusion. Well,the last is a fact for itself,is like saying USA is a SuperPower today, Portugal was a Great Power without any doubt.
ACamposPinho 0:32, 3 July 2006
ACamposPinho 23:26, 4 July 2006
Thank you!
Thank you, Regal Raptor, for your support in my RfA. I appreciate your trust and support, and I will do my best to further help this great encyclopædia and community of ours. If there is anything that you feel I can do to help, please let me know. PS, you should especially like the picture. -- Avi 23:57, 3 July 2006 (UTC) |
Hello Nobleeagle. The edit war at this article may interest you. Seems like one of our favourite wikipedians is in action, and the guy he is up against ( User:Subhash bose) had to be blocked for personal attacks. Blnguyen | rant-line 05:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, he is indefblocked and I know have this page on my watchlist. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 07:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC).
Hi there Nobleeagle. How are you? Do you have family and loved ones in Mumbai? Are they OK? Also, check the current RfAs. Regards, Blnguyen | rant-line 07:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Just to let you know this article has been moved to the Indian History category under category:History of cricket and you can also access it via category:Cricket in India. -- Jack 12:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi NobleEagle. I'm having serious problems with a user who has been vandalizing the following articles:
Ram Janmabhoomi Bal Thackeray Manu Smriti
Plus, he has been making personal attacks against me in his edit summaries (as you can see):
here
I have reported him.
I also suspect that he is a sockpuppet of user Anwar saadat (who has been given a week long block). I was hoping you'd monitor these articles. Regardless of your personal feelings towards me, towards controvertial figures like Thackeray or controvertial issues like RJB or Manu Smriti you have to admit that his edits are extremely POV and unsupported...
Thanks ( Netaji 18:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC))
hi Nobeleeagle. It's been taken care of. See Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Anwar saadat and User talk:Anwar saadat. Also, he called you and Nichalp "trolls" - see user talk history. Blnguyen | rant-line 07:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I am asking your opinion on this festering dispute that has developed between myself and Satbir Singh since the past few days.
The facts of the matter are like this:
I created a template called Castes and Tribes of the Punjab with a view to studying the caste and tribal groups that exist in what was the ancient Punjab region (Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (India), Haryana and Himachal Pradesh). My intention, unlike any Ibbetsons, Todds or Cunninghams was to study these groups from a purely anthropological perspective sans any controversy so that people visiting this portal would get to know about the huge mosaic that my province (I am a Punjabi) is.
I started with a few groups. But soon enough the groups began to increase. For the sake of brevity, I grouped them under Categories. As the template evolved, I learnt not to name any category speculatively.
The final categories were:
Brahmin groups. Dalit groups. Jat clans. Khatris and other groups. Rajput clans. Shaikhs and other groups. Tarkhans and other groups. Others (groups to which i could not attribute any specific status). In the last (Others), I also included groups such as Kamboj, Khasa, Ahir and Gujjar. However, Satbir Singh separated them and bunched them under a new category called "Surviving Ancient Kshatriya Tribes".
Since that day, a revert war has been on between the two of us. According to Satbir, these groups such as the Ahirs (the ancient Abhiras), the Gujjars (Gurjaras), the Khas (the Khasas), the Kamboj (Kambojas) and Yadav (Yadavas) are ancient Kshatriya tribes mentioned in a number of ancient Sanskrit texts.
My own personal opinion is that all this is true. However, some points must be noted:
The Varna System is a topic subject to a lot of controversy and dispute. I have been noticing this in recent weeks. Pages such as Khatri, Rajput, Kayastha and Bhumihar have been vandalised because many people don't agree with the Varna status of these groups. If the Ahirs, the Gujjars, the Khasaa, the Kambojas and the Yadavas are Kshatriya groups, then so are the Rajputs, Jats, Khatris, Tarkhans et al. I did not create a category entitled "Kshatriya groups" in the first place because I knew I was treading on soft ground. All the above mentioned castes claim Kshatriya status. But we all know, how disputable these claims are. The rigmarole that is the Varna System is known to us all. For example, the Jats, who in the Vedic and Mythological periods were workers should be placed in the Shudra Category under the Varna System. But many Jats clans consider themselves the equal and perhaps the superior of Rajputs as adhrents of Kshatriya Dharma. My own caste, the Khatris and related groups such as Aroras claim Kshatriya status. But we have seen on the Khatri page as to what became of that claim. Ahirs, Gujjars and Yadavs are considered to be OBCs in most Indian states inspite of their being the descendants of ancient Abhiras, Gurjaras and Yadus. There is a controversy raging on the Yadav page presently if I am not wrong, on the status of the caste. Taking all these points into consideration and being aware of the fact that there are users (say Sanjay Mohan and Holywarrior, who have caused great disputes on various caste pages, I proposed categories such as "Kambojs and related groups" (Kamboj, Kamboja, Kamboh and Khasa) and "Gujjars and realted groups" (Ahirs, Gujjars, Dhangars and Bakarwals). But Satbir Singh and another user named Sze cavalry01 objected to it. They returned to "Ancient Kshatriya Tribes". I did a little compromise by making it "Ancient Warrior Tribes", which I later realised would also be POV. Therefore, I changed it to just "Ancient Tribes" - A completely unspeculative term.
However, Satbir Singh does not agree. He calls it a "gross suppression of known historical facts", "a crime against history" and "a political agenda" and has termed me a "Vandal". I have put forward my points. But both of us are yet to agree.
I have fighting a revert war with him for almost a week now. Have a look at the template's history page and Satbir Singh's talk page to get a complete idea of the whole fracas.
This fight has become downright silly. I surely don't expect myself to spend my time, money and energy on such a silly matter. And I am sure neither does the other party.
As of now, Administrator Shresth has protected the page on my request. He has also asked that the dispute be discussed on the talk page of the template and a consensus be reached. Yourself and anybody else you know who has an interest in the Punjab, please come and express your opinion on the talk page.
Regards. Rajatjghai 05:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I will be glad to assist you in this article. We need solid references from contemporary authors like Siram Goel, Ram Swarup, Koenraad Elst etc. Then we can give the criticisms and allegations. Actually, I was thinking on creating a series on Hindu politics much like Christian politics, in particular, Christian Democracy. A good reference would be Decolonizing the Hindu mind by Dr Elst where he points out the similarities between the latter and integral humanism idealogy of BJP.-- Babub→ Talk 12:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Danianjan is making threats in my talk page and gearing up to vandalize your edits of Shiv Sena. Plz monitor situation. Thank you. Netaji 02:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for archiving the discussion on LTTE. However, in Firefox all the text is pushed to the left, headings and archivebox that is, while it looks good in MSIE. Could you look at it, or alert someone that knows how to fix it? Ulflarsen 04:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Any chance you can get his IP for me? He vandalised my page too. 203.214.87.138 11:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Can you delete my account please?
I wasn't planning on leaving the page-I just wanted to remove myself from the discussion until things cool off. But you're right I should just ignore the offenses- I have revised my post to "I'm leaving this discussion but will keep maintaining the article." Meaning that I am going to keep a close eye on the article. I just don't see the point in arguing with Campos and espically his "anon ally." Regards, Signature brendel 06:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Well I have reported him to the admins becuase he/she is just hurting WP's credibility. So far this user has edited under three different IPs-I'm gathering and adding them to my report which I submitted to the admins. Let's see what they can do-I hope he'll eventually get tired of this imature behavior on his part. (This guy is definitely not a Newbe) Taking this into account, espically the fact that user who insulted you on the emerging superpowers page is probably the same as this one, partial protection seems a very good idea. This way he'll have to get an account and needs to take responsibility for his actions. Regards, Signature brendel 07:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia for violating the three-revert rule on Great power. Your block will expire in 12 hours. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. AmiDaniel ( talk) 18:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC) |
You could have checked before reverting . User Subhash bose ( Netaji) also was proved to be a sockpuppeteer and had the tag put on his page, he moved it to the bottom of the page and Anwar moved it back to the top, several reverts later the page was blocked with the tag at the bottom of the page. Same standards should apply. So if you do feel like taking this issue up, please do ensure even handedness and do the same on Subhash Bose's page too. Haphar 14:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for helping me out on the RfC. Bakaman Bakatalk 15:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
hi Nobleeagle. Just wondering if your guess was a serious one or being lighthearted. THere's no problem, just wondering for the serious results. thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 08:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC).
This stupid revert war must end
I made changes now without reverting, but communism is keeping china back my ass look here
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html
And here
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/in.html
China has a much greater GDP, less people below the poverty line and a higher Literacy % so NO communism is not keeping china behind it is democracy that is keeping India behind. TheftByEating 06:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)