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Onel5969
TT me
13:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Onel5969: That's a problem what you are doing Ngancheekean ( talk) 15:43, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Onel5969: It is really a problem what you are doing and you means onel5969 Ngancheekean ( talk) 15:52, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Onel5969 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Can you please explain what policy/guideline you were following when you moved this and what exactly compelled you to move an 18 year old article to draft space? CUPIDICAE💕 16:10, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Praxidicae: There are a lot of reason to move the page as you can see in Wikipedia:Drafts. Since you already moved it into mainspace, what do you want me to do. Ngancheekean ( talk) 16:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Praxidicae: I don't want to say too much. Ngancheekean ( talk) 17:40, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
An article you recently created,
Yan Zhiyi, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from
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Onel5969
TT me
12:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Onel5969: What did I do to you, that's you keep moving the article. Ngancheekean ( talk) 15:01, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Onel5969 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
The problems with trying to attribute the White Horse poem being about Yan Liang: 1) Yan Liang isn't mentioned anywhere with a white horse. If one is to attribute that poem to be about a miliatry figure or even narrow it down to Guandu, why specifically about Yan Liang? Archery, career of errantry, fighting the Xiongnu and Xianbei, white horse, none of those speak of Yan Liang in particular. 2) Cao Zhi would have been eight or so at the time of Yan Liang's death so I wonder why he would have a personal reason to write about a (by the time he began writing) a dead general? Why, of all the officers of Yuan Shao, someone like Yan Liang would worry him so? Why write in such heroic terms for one who had died fighting against his father might not have been the wisest of ideas. 3) The poem more fits into a general subject of patriotism and expressing his wish to serve in a miliatry sense, something that Cao Zhi wrote about multiple times.
Might I suggest "The Incident at the Gate: Cao Zhi, the Succession, and Literary Fame" by Robert Cutter for a look into the meaning behind some of the poems of Cao Zhi?
If you find the article on Yan Liang unsatisfactory or wish to make the case for it to be deleted, might I suggest using the Yan Liang talk page to discuss what you feel needs to be changed? DongZhuo3kingdoms ( talk) 13:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
@ DongZhuo3kingdoms: It is a simple chinese article which only need to be translated rather than writing from scratch. Fyi, the article was written by an annoymous 18 years ago, which provoked you. Ngancheekean ( talk) 14:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
@ DongZhuo3kingdoms: Cao Zhi has every right to comment on Yan Liang regardless what your excuses are. Ngancheekean ( talk) 16:32, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
@ DongZhuo3kingdoms: You can study however how much you can, if anything happens dont blame the others. Ngancheekean ( talk) 16:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Yan Liang shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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Rastinition (
talk)
16:20, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Rastinition: What did you update at Yan Liang's page? Ngancheekean ( talk) 16:23, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Rastinition: Whatever that is I did not violate the rule and within the policy. Anyway, thanks for reminding. Ngancheekean ( talk) 16:29, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to assume ownership of articles, you may be blocked from editing. Behavior such as this is regarded as disruptive, and is a violation of Wikipedia policy.In the wiki, no page belongs to you, everyone can edit it.If you have doubts, you should try to discuss your doubts. Rastinition ( talk) 15:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
An article you recently created,
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Onel5969
TT me
15:09, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Onel5969 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
An article you recently created,
Yan Jianyuan, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from
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Onel5969
TT me
13:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Onel5969 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yan Fei until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Onel5969 TT me 15:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Onel5969 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yan Silu until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Onel5969 TT me 15:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Onel5969 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Yan Fei. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Onel5969 TT me 16:16, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Onel5969 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. No idea what he is doing. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Talk:Yan Han (Jin Dynasty), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Talk pages are for talking, not backing up articles. Rastinition ( talk) 04:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
The article Yan Jianyuan has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
The article lacks any dates or time periods. No indication of why they might be notable and what they were protesting.
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Gusfriend (
talk)
00:14, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
I just noticed that you have copied previous versions of the articles to the talk pages of Talk:Yan Han (Jin Dynasty) and Talk:Yan Jianyuan and wanted to mention that the talk page is designed for discussion of the page. Gusfriend ( talk) 02:35, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Forgive the uninvited observations, I am more of a science researcher than a policy expert, and so I usually avoid policy commentary.
However, within your repeated statements, there is a tell-tail indicator, specifically, the phrase "my page".
That phase prompted me to locate WP:Own. I can certainly sympathize with a sense of ownership of one's work, and I do have a habit of referring to some of my contributions as "my page on 'X'".
To be succinct, the policy states
I have managed to look at your original contribution to Yan Han (Jin Dynasty). All other issues aside, yes, there was clearly a paucity of citation (only one citation, and that in a fine language that unfortunately we poor English editors cannot verify. (Well, I did manage to ascertain that the Chinese source does assert that someone died at "age of 93", and fire was somehow involved with the coffin.))
If Yan Han is truly notable in the context of the English WP, regardless of most honored coverage in the Chinese language WP (please link in talk), then it would not be difficult to find English language citations. It is not my duty to find citations for Yan Han but this one took less than a minute:
yan han of the Jin dynasty was known for his filial piety and for being.
All that is being asked of you is the same foundational requirement asked of all editors, that is, to provide sufficient citations all of your contributions. One citation requiring translation is insufficient, I know too well.
IveGoneAway ( talk) 02:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Yan Han (Jin Dynasty) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Talk:Yan Han (Jin Dynasty). This is known as a " cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Rastinition ( talk) 04:16, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Yan Fei. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. This is an automated message from a bot about this edit, where you removed the deletion template from an article before the deletion discussion was complete. If this message is in error, please report it.— cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 16:48, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to remove Articles for deletion notices or comments from articles and Articles for deletion pages, as you did at Yan Silu, you may be blocked from editing. This is an automated message from a bot about this edit, where you removed the deletion template from an article before the deletion discussion was complete. If this message is in error, please report it.— cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 16:48, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately, your editing is so problematic in many ways that it seems that your presence may be doing more harm than good. Part of the problem is that you often don't understand what you are doing, for several reasons, including a limited grasp of English. However, much bigger problems are that you won't listen to other editors who try to explain things that you haven't understood, and that your response to anything you disagree with is aggression and belligerence, rather than a friendly and cooperative attempt to resolve disagreements. I am not going to spend time on listing all of the kinds of problems involved, because you have already had them explained to you, on this page and elsewhere. However, if you continue with disruptive editing of any kind, you are likely to be blocked from editing without further warning. Please take note of the things you have been told by other editors, and adjust your ways of doing things in line with the advice you have been given. Also, please don't try to correct English, as you are likely to make things worse rather than better. JBW ( talk) 17:32, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Onel5969 TT me 23:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
I keep seeing edits like this, where it's largely unsourced content additions with an edit summary that says "Wikipedia:Verifiability". What is that even supposed to mean? Unsourced content additions are like the opposite of verifying your edits. Sergecross73 msg me 23:35, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
{{
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05:20, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Ngancheekean ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I read Wikipedia:Competence is required, Wikipedia:Disruptive editing:Failure or refusal to "get the point", Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not: Wikipedia is not a battleground
Decline reason:
This request, and the angry assertions below, give me no confidence that you understand why you were blocked, or that you will cease your disruptive behaviour if you are unblocked. Girth Summit (blether) 08:48, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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Please see [1]. SN54129 16:57, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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is now closed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:05, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:42, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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