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hi NAe, and thanks. Yes, I think more references will be helpful. Also, I think we should make perfectly clear that the P/Q grouping is ahistorical, and not used anymore by linguists for being useless (the Q>P change is just too trivial once the P phoneme went missing). regards, dab (ᛏ) 18:40, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I was in a hurry with Mabon. Feel free to alter the description. I was going to add more details, but ultimately, the exact content is anyone's guess.... And, by all means add some lustful whorls, WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_censored_for_the_protection_of_minors ;o) dab (ᛏ) 21:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi, your additions to Ligurian language look good; can you add the reference for Delamarre though please? Thanks! -- Angr/ tɔk tə mi 07:22, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't know these scholars by name, but I'm sure they exist. What I'm not sure of is whether any current scholars still propose that Ligurian was non-IE. Decius 16:16, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your clarification, Nantonos, about which Whatmough claim you were saying is discredited. I quite agree. The dialects of Gaulish seem to have been singularly uniform, witness, for example, St. Jerome 's 4th c. AD testimony that the dialects of Ancyra (Galatia) and Treviri (Belgica) were very close and mutually intelligible (in fact, Galatian seems to have been specifically a Belgic dialect). However, one has to exclude from this close relationship BOTH Celtiberian and the other Celtic languages of the ancient Iberian peninsula (except for the belated Gaulish penetration in NE Catalonia) AND Lepontic, regardless of whether one wishes to support the currently (since about 1970) prevailing view that it was a Celtic language or the earlier prevailing view that it was "Ligurian" or "para-Celtic" (where "para" means close to, but not quite). Again, those who consider "Lepontic" a Gaulish dialect are clearly referring to (Cisalpine) Gaulish, of which a few inscriptions are extant, written in the same "alphabet of Lugano" used for Lepontic. The two cannot be confused as they have quite different phonology and morphology (e.g. preservation of final -m in Lepontic vs. final -n in Gaulish, 3sg preterite ending -e in Lepontic vs. -u in Gaulish, just to mention two of the most obvious and firmly established features).
I would also like to put in my five-cents worth on the Insular/Continental vs. P-Celtic/Q-Celtic controversy. While, of course, I accept in theory that the *kw > *p change may have occurred independently or areally, I think the burden of proof rests on those who support this view. Barring evidence to the contrary, the single isogloss view remains the more viable hypothesis. The Insular Celtic shared innovations adduced by the proponents of an Insular Celtic branch are mostly if not entirely late proto-historic or even historic. Personally, I hold the view that Q-Celtic is indeed a branch of Celtic which includes:
(1) Celtiberian;
(2) the other Celtic languages of ancient Iberia, although exactly which ones these are is not clear at all; you see references to Gallaecian or Calaecian, and especially the Artabri and Nerii tribes, the Celtici of Baeturia and Baetica (see this very informative article [1]), other presumed tribal languages of Lusitania, although probably not Lusitanian proper, which seems to have preserved Indo-European *p (that would make it, guess what, Ligurian!), the primary example being PORCOM (a root, incidentally, also attested in Ligurian toponymy); in any case, the Lusitanian epigraphic corpus is currently divided in two geographic groups, North Lusitanian and South Lusitanian, apparently reflecting two different languages;
(3) Goidelic.
Pasquale 20:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I agree with your subsequent edits regarding SVG 1.2 Full spec. By the way, you mentioned being the chair of the SVG WG. Does this mean you are Chris Lilley (who I've had numerous email conversations with) or that Chris has been replaced? Jeff schiller 19:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
yes, I felt it was appropriate to draw attention to the similarities between insular and continental calendars. as to the age, if you consider the insular vs. continental split the first node, it will be the same age as Proto-Celtic. If you think that Celtiberian vs. Gaulish + Insular is the first node, it will be slightly younger. Maybe it would be better to say 500 BC, to be on the safe side? Anyway, it seems obvious that some sort of lunar calendar was observed during all of the Iron Age, but as it could only be "Celtic" from the time of Proto-Celtic, I think it makes sense that the celtic calendar in its earliest form would go back to Proto-Celtic, ca. 800 BC. This doesn't go for details like the intercalation, of course, concerning that we are completely in the dark, I suppose. dab (ᛏ) 16:53, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Just a quick word, because I'm busy writing a book with a well-known author on Goddesses: You were WAY off ion the etymology of Her name! There is no evidence that it may mean either "Terror" or "Phantom Queen" [at least not in the poejorative sense, in the case of the latter term, as so many pedantic Pagans seem to believe].
Take Care, Wade MacMorrighan [WiccanWade]
-- Nantonos 22:00, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
My reasoning was precisely that of context; that Aedui is clarified by Celtic tribes of Gaul which is exactly what people will find out about by clicking on the link. I agree that Celt is an article, so putting that word somewhere else in the article on Dumnorix would be perfectly fine. -- Nantonos 23:51, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
My source for most of those was the Encyclopedia Mythica, here, but that doesn't mention Apollo. So, either Mythica has been modified or I got it from somewhere else, but whatever -- go ahead and remove it if you can find a reference for it. Tuf-Kat 22:31, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
I didn't mean to imply that this is a scholarly position. Rather, I was guided by Cimmerians#Celtic_and_Germanic_folklore, according to which the Welsh (and others) have traditions claiming this connection. The kom-broges etymology in any case seems preferable. I don't know if the Frankish claim has any better basis, but in any case I find it intersting to see that the Cimmerians should have played such a role in European tradition. I don't know when these identifications appeared, i.e. if they are medieval, or connected with British Israelism. dab (ᛏ) 07:45, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
About removing the approximation by the Coligny calendar from the Month page: that particular section deals with the continued fractions approximations of the ratio of the tropical year to the lunar month. 62/5 is not a continued fraction of that ratio; I stated so in the edit history. If you want the Coligny calendar listed on the Month page I suggest you add a sub-section; other approximations have been used in other calendars. IMHO the reconstruction of the Coligny calendar is too disputed to state as a fact that its average year was 12.4 lunations. What strikes me is that all proposed interpretations are very poor lunar calendars, which systematically run out of sync with the real Moon fast. -- Tom Peters 11:43, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
I believe that what 212.209.42.132 meant on Neopaganism by Uniterranism was Unitarianism, or Unitarian Universalism, which is indeed widespread. -- Nantonos 20:08, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
No I'm not a bot I'm real. I was just trying to remove unnecessary categories or errors. As there is no Category:Celtic religion and it would probably too similar to Category:Celtic mythology to be useful I removed it. Category:Celtic gods may be a better category anyway. MeltBanana 22:41, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi!
You asked for my sources concerning the Batavi placing them in Yougoslavia, Hungary, Bavaria, etc.
On one word epigraphy
Check http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/institute/sonst/adw/edh/ and search for "batavorum". If you have more Epigraphic evidence, i'd be delighted. I should have mentioned it, of course. There are lost of inscriptions for "honesta missio", mentioning them.
85.113.253.250 19:43, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm not too sure where it mentioned that Scottish Gaelic was spoken in Northern England as it was only a library book...I'll try and get it out again ASAP. --- 09:37, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC) The Great Gavini ahoy ahoy?
Hi there; do you have the translation of those latin encriptions about goddess Sequana? Thanks! Tonyjeff 20:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
To a certain extent, the details are relevant, but only just, and in fact they are covered to a large extent in History of the Daleks. But I'll be happy to try and explain the reverts in detail:
I hope this addresses your concerns. -- khaosworks ( talk • contribs) 22:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Saw your Epona wikimail. I've responded at length on my talk page. (Quite a bit. Beer makes me chatty!) After rambling a lot, I laid out my side/case, re: what links are appropriate; wondering if it sounds like a good compromise to you. Smccandlish 04:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey Nantonos, how's it going? I'm an admirer of your wiki-work; and I noticed your comment on Sulis and the Suleviae at
Talk:Sulis. Now, there's currently an article
Sul which covers the same material as
Sulis, only with less of it. I would simply merge the two, but I was wondering if you'd be interested in moving
Sul to
Suleviae and explaining what we know about Sulis and the Suleviae and how they differ. I'm a tad out of my league here, but I seem to remember the Suleviae are attested on the Rhineland(?) and don't appear to differ much from other triplets like the Junones and Matrones. Is that right? Do we have statues of them, or just inscriptions?
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-- Nantonos 11:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
There's a link to a cached version of Campell's paper "Were the Scots Irish ?" at Talk:Epidii. If you have trouble with the link, let me know. I have a cleaned-up version I can send you. I see you're in France, so I don't suppose the library would have Lane & Campbell's book Dunadd or Campbell's Saints and sea-kings which give a shorter version. Ian Armit appears to have given a paper in 2004, after Campell, which might be relevant, but that hasn't been published that I can see. According to the Society for American Archaeology site, the abstracts for their annual meetings are only published up to 2003 so far. I checked the prospectus for the 2004 meeting, but it doesn't go into give titles of papers to be presented, never mind any details. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
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It's 11 digits long, ISBNs are 10 (soon to be 13). Rich Farmbrough, 22:30 2 September 2006 (GMT).
Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 14:50 4 September 2006 (GMT).
Bro, i have been thinking about doing something against MD, but the problem is that i have a bunch of his friends keeping an eye on me, and any atempt to do anything from my side is fiercly resisted on daily basis. I can not do anything undisputed, and any RFC would be flooded by the people that hate my work here.
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When two admins get away with that, i do not feel it being worth the effort doing anything against MD, an RFC will be flooded by "Its just an edit war", then by "Striver is smearcampaigning MD" and "Striver is the bad guy" and will probably backfire on me just as when i RFC'd Jersey Devil for afd'ing 30+article created by me. Even though 80+ of the articles were keept, and the rest were deleted since i did not have time to defend all of them or did not notice it. Of cource he did not notify me when he AFD the 30+ articles. Here is a list of the Islam related ones, see the long Jersey Devil list?
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Thanks for the care, and thanks for the comment on the article. -- Striver 09:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I'm the guy you asked about my edit of Horse worship -- I had forgotten to log in. Anyway, it may very well be originally from Pausanias, but I actually just got it from the animal worship article, which looks it got it from Britannica. Just wanted to let you know. -- Schizobullet 17:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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I know that you're a careful Celticist (aren't you a force behind the wonderful Epona.net?), so I was hoping you could clarify something for me. Why is it that Divitiacos of the Aedui is identified as a vergobret? I won't clutter up your talk page with my doubts, but I've been bugged by this for some time, and thought you might be someone interested in mulling it over. See D's talk page. Cynwolfe ( talk) 18:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I read of your plans to update the History section of the Horseshoe article in the discussion page, and so wanted to pose this question to you: if one finds a used horseshoe which is at least 50 years old, is there any way to approximate its age? appreciate your time. Chrishibbard7 ( talk) 16:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I see that you made the map with the distribution of Sirona inscriptions. Where can I find the map without the points, so that I can use it for other deities? Thank you (hope this was the right place to ask - I don't find another way) Treveros ( talk) 10:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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Dear Nantonos Aedui,
I'm reaching out to researchers and writers interested in the emerging, or re-emerging, movements inspired by ancient culture in the areas of religion/theology/mythology/culture...I spare-headed an artistic collaboration between a music professor, rock-vocalist and poet to create a modern multi-media experience of the cathardic journey inspired by ancient pagan poetic traditions; A romance to nature seen as a beautiful, divine and omnipotent woman.
It has singularly been my goal to respect tradition while allowing a free and spontaneous interpretation...I believe the utility of a quasi-rebirth of some aspects of the ancient religious tendancies would be achieved in an increase of tolerance, sympathy, and freedom of expression in our modern discoures on religion...so much needed. Until we have a cultural revolution tantamount to the politcal revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries [aiding the rebirth of a government of, by and for the people] in the area of religion, I will not rest. Until the rebirth of religions which are of, by and for the people, as fluid as art, as deep as mythology and theology and as powerful as culture, I do not believe we will be truly free no matter what economic or political conditions surround us. Democracy without a democratic cultural is as frustrating as it is ineffectual.
If you have a moment could you peruse the poetry project site. http://www.misbeliever.net As you are a worker in these areas, having ebhanced the Wikipedia, the world's greatest encyclopedia, I would be very honored with any remarks or critisms you could offer either me or my collaborators.
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