Mywayyy, don't. First, these edit wars are harmful no matter what the merits of the case are, and if you persist I'm going to press to get you indef-blocked. (Your block evasion through anon IPs should by rights have gotten you at least a week by now anyway.) And as for content, you should have noticed by now that with Istanbul/Constantinople we have the naming issue not merely in the intro sentence but actually in as many as two separate articles of their own, and the section structure of the main article. It's already there, dammit.Fut.Perf.☼15:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)reply
I actually have fought to keep the historical names (Greek, Armenian, etc.) at the top of the page in Turkish geography articles. Many of the pages that I've mentioned to you have the historical names because I've reverted people trying to remove them. You're being very unreasonable, Mywayyy—you're fixated on one city when I already explained to you that the world does not revolve around it. Historical names are helpful, take a look at
Braşov for example. No one's fighting over having the Hungarian name up there.
I wholeheartedly agree! :) I've been accused of being a
"Greek chauvinist" many times so I don't mind being a Turkish one. ;) Anyways, how many articles are you planning to do this? I don't think it's fair to have the Greek, Armenian and Kurdish names at the very top of Turkish city articles and for Greek articles just hiding the Turkish names near the bottom. I wouldn't mind if you only do it for a few articles, however. —Khoikhoi03:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Ah, so you're saying we can stil have it in the 1st paragraph, but just not at the top? I agree to that! We could prhase it like, "Alexandroupoli has a sizeable Turkish population, which they refer to as Dedeağaç". How's that? Well, I don't think you can consider people that have lived in
Trabzon, for example (and still do) as "foreigners". That's why I think the Greek names are appropriate at the top—also because they're useful. For example, look at the
Hrodna artice:
Hrodna (or Horodnia; also Grodna) (
Belarusian: Гро́дна, Го́радня, Гаро́дня;
Russian: Гро́дно, Grodno;
Polish: Grodno,
German: Garten) -- in Belarus
But Mywayyy, the Kurds aren't recognized as an offical minority group in Turkey, so should we delete the
Kurds in Turkey article? Who says we should write articles based on what your or my government says? I think we should accept other sources as well. I like your suggestion—I've already added Κωνσταντινουπολη in the 3rd paragraph, is that ok? The problem is I have a feeling a lot of people might not accept