I disagree with some of the deletions made on September 25, 2021 to the article "Cabazon Dinosaurs" by Magnolia677.
Magnolia677 justified his/her deletions by stating that the article is about the Cabazon dinosaurs, not Claude Bell (who built those large concrete structures). Magnolia677 then deleted about a third of the text relating to Claude Bell, stating that Bell's work at Knott's Berry Farm is irrelevant, even though that is where he honed his craft of creating life-size figures out of concrete, and he spent 35 years of his life working at Knott's, and he was working there while he built the Cabazon dinosaurs.
Magnolia677 also deleted most of the photos in the article, including the only two photos of Claude Bell!
By Maganolia677's logic ("This article isn't about Claude Bell, it's about the Cabazon dinosaurs...") then an article about the first moon landing should not include any photos of Neil Armstrong in it.
Sheesh.
Now, the article has a grand total of only ONE picture in it... Not good.
Hi! I saw your multiple reversions on my contributions and wanted to get more details other than your one-word explanations. You said not to add "spam from unreliable sources". If you look at my contribution to the University of South Florida, adding one other cafeteria/food option from the official website does not count as promo nor spam, same thing with the Glazer Children's museum, where I spoke about a historic event for the museum celebrating 10 years, also taken from their official website. Also, a wide range of museum Wikipedia pages have an exhibitions section, but the Tampa Museum of Art did not have one, which I added from their official website with the most accurate information yet was reverted, again, due to "promo." Informing about their permanent exhibitions is just facts, not promo. There are also no prices, hours, or anything of that nature included.
According to the "What Wikipedia is not" page that you referred me to, Wikipedia exists to offer "detail on a website's achievements, impact or historical significance, " meaning that my edits on the ZooTampa at Lowry, where I mention one of their achievements, being a fact, contributes to what Wikipedia exists for. This same page includes information about the programs they have to promote conservation, a section that already existed on that page. This, too, was said to be promo under your explanations.
Regarding the sources, I do recognize some of those were blogs, so I will make sure not to use those as I agree they can be unreliable. I will edit appropriately and add better sources to the edits that were rightfully reverted.
I can see you have been doing this for a while, so some further explanations when reversions are made from somebody who knows could really help me to learn and offer quality contributions to Wikipedia.
Thank you!
She is collab Qveen Herby Why you delete this ?? https://genius.com/Qveen-herby-ip-lyrics look this Biandiamond ( talk) 15:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
I already gave the source why are you deleting it???? Biandiamond ( talk) 20:05, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi! About the photo of the sky that you removed in the article Lincoln, Nebraska... I see that you may be from Mississippi and you may not realize, but the "just sky" is as important & relevant to the Nebraska climate as cotton may be to the deep south. Storm clouds is what brings us in Nebraska rain and in turn the essential ingredient to crop production; while the lack of rain can create the opposite... dust bowl conditions, or at least devastating droughts & strain on the food chain. While Lincoln is a city and not an agricultural community per se, it is the capital of one the leading agricultural states in the nation... thus, the photo would seem at least partially relevant (as opposed to not relevant), according to MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE -- including the part 'Strive for variety'. Also will point out that the article was GA-rated with this photo. While I'll leave your edit as is (it's not a hill to die on since there is no hill) -- just wanted to point out that geographically speaking, one thing with meaning in one place may or may not have any meaning in another. Anywho, thanks for taking the time to read this! Hanyou23 ( talk) 02:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello, you recently left a talk page message at User talk:2804:D49:D2D:9E00:EEF4:51FF:FE08:B897. This is a long-term issue that I have been monitoring since September 2020 because this user's edits to airport articles are often disruptive and non-constructive. Please see the edits made by the 2804:D49:DC3:AF00:EEF4:51FF:FE08:B897/41 and 2804:D49:D11:2900:EEF4:51FF:FE08:B897/41 IP ranges. It is also worth noting that some of the IPs used in 2020 may have been related to this sockpuppet investigation from 2015 and 2016. Johnj1995 ( talk) 15:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I really don't get it. I apologize for sounding like this. Although I know some of my edits are in good faith which is the reason why I want to talk to you on why you reverted my edits to explain some reasons on why you reverted them. Here's some of the things I noticed on the following edits:
The others still needs some work, including the section regarding to Jackson, Mississippi which has little to no information on transpiration and some of these elements, including highways, are in the Geology section. If you're still up to debate, feel free to talk about it.
20chances ( talk) 18:27, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I keep trying to edit the Demopolis page to make it accurate and up to date (because its so inaccurate in some areas) and was even asked by city government officials to do so, yet you guys (you and that person with Batty in their username) keep reverting my edits? What is your deal? I properly cited the sources so this isn't a case of vandalism. I'm really curious as to how I am not allowed to edit the page, although I am from the town that is the subject of the page, and you are. Please don't tell me Wikipedia has some kind of caste system outlining who is allowed to edit articles and who is not. If you are going to somehow ban me from making edits to my own hometown's page, fine, but at least go and take another look at my edits. I trust that you'll find that at least some of them should be reverted back and the edits allowed to stay. The citizens of this town deserve to have a Wikipedia page representing them that isn't filled with outdated and inaccurate information.
Update. I just got an email back from the town official who tasked me with editing the page. He said that if my edits are reverted again for no good reason, they are going to work to figure out how to request the page be locked and access turned over to me/them. 207.203.133.122 ( talk) 22:48, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, If you could create stubs(?) for Fred Hall (Canadian politician) and Jack Mould (Canadian politician) I'd be glad to work on articles rather than use the page on York reeves and mayors. I'm not able to create new articles because my account is new.
Please stop with your false accusations of disruptive editing. These a very slanderous, defamatory and untrue. I don't know why you have it out for me threatening to have me blocked from editing for things I didn't do. This is ridiculous. IZ041 ( talk) 19:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia,
I noticed you had changed some edits I had made regarding two listings of recipients of the Nobel prize. This is not meant as disruptive editing, but to accurately provide information to that page. James Orbinski was not a recipient of the Nobel Prize. For someone to be included on this list they should actually have their name on the Nobel Prize, but in this case this is not so. In the case of William Faulkner, he did receive the prize no doubt however, he does not have a direct connection to the University of Toronto, as he had military training as the sources indicate by the No. 4 School of Aeronautics. I noticed this had been edited previously and reverted during previous discussions. It seems there may have been some misunderstandings as to what should be included on this list and William Faulkner while he was stationed in Toronto at a time, did not receive any formal training by the University of Toronto, but by the military. If this sort of connection would be valid this would open up the door to many connections to be included on this list and for many places, which would be a little ridiculous. Just thought I'd bring this up to you so you might reconsider the inclusion of these two individuals.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:9480:102:5FFF:FFFF:FFFF:FFFF:FFBC ( talk) 03:40, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Edit Revert Monroe County Florida, I'd like to add the sections to which where reverted and will be contributing more to them. Is there a reason the edit was reverted? Also, if you have any templates which would make contributions easier that would be greatly appriciated. Thanx
Please don't throw around language that I am engaging in 'disruptive editing' on the Spokane Valley, Washington article edit summaries. That is an assumption of bad faith and is not consistent with the pillars of Wikipedia, please assume good faith while trying to work collaboratively on the project. Please think before you speak and be mindful of other people's feelings and how they may be interpreted. I am not trying to be disruptive or act in bad faith, I am being as collaborative as possible while giving a passionate explanation of why I disagree with you and that other editor with that particular edit, I even made compromises to address your 'duplicate' (more accurately derivative, which is not the same) complaint; you reverted me, I reverted you, its all part of the process. I was going to reach out through other means besides edit summaries if my last compromise didn't work, which is obviously found out by a revert-which I wasn't planning on contesting again because I don't think its worth arguing further about. If you say disagreement = disruptive editing, then it seems like you are just trying to sideline and silence me and the edit I wanted to make that you clearly don't like. Saying I'm engaging in 'disruptive editing' is also almost like saying I am trying to sabotage the article or prevent it from being improved, which is honestly pretty hurtful and insulting to me and a real slap in the face after I've been working on this article for months now. I have just about doubled the size of the article and definitely improved its quality, adding about 60 citations. And as I said, I am not going to put the photo of the skyline in the infobox, not worth my time arguing about it. Maybe we can get another photo of the 'skyline' later and hopefully more pictures will be uploaded to the Commons so someone can make a decent looking montage without duplicates later.
Although I have found it hard to contribute to the article with you scrutinizing every edit, I am satisfied with the progress that has been made with it so far. Since you from Mississippi, I am not sure why you have taken such a hawkish interest in the development of this Start-Class article of a mid sized city in Washington state that gets under 100 pageviews per day, but it's great you want to help. I would be happy to work with on it further despite the disagreements from time to time. If you really are interested in helping the article, all I think we need now before prepping it for a GAN is to add content to the History section and start the Economy section. I plan on digging into a few books I have on the city to fill in the rest of the article. Feel free to help. I only started editing this website to improve the Coeur d'Alene article and just decided later on to do the Spokane Valley article so the two anchor cities of the Spokane area, Spokane and Coeur d'Alene and it's largest suburb, Spokane Valley could all have Good Articles on this encyclopedia so people can know more about the place. 2001:5B0:4FC0:1788:D43E:37A7:29F2:2BEC ( talk) 20:51, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Please refrain from vandalizing Roslyn Estates, New York. Your recent edits to said page are harmful to its overall quality and accuracy, and as such can be considered to be vandalism (and can lead to being blocked from editing). You are a good editor and your contributions are appreciated. However, certain eliminations (i.e.: removing a non-disruptive photo which identifies something specifically related to the particular section of the article when said sign specifically serves as a means of identification for something in the article) are detrimental and harmful to the article. Likewise, eliminating important, notable information (such as a government section, which is not "a directory" and instead explains how the government operates) simply because "This level of detail is not mentioned in WP:USCITIES#Government" is equally detrimental. A government section (or any section) is not of use if it does not explain the section's subject or how it operates – and likewise it is not accurate if incomplete. Please remember that the formatting of WP:USCITIES is not absolute or required, which is mentioned throughout its page; it is merely an optional guideline to assist in creating an article. Just because the level of detail is not specifically specified in the guideline does not mean that the information is not meant to be in the article or that it means it is "a directory" (especially when it appears to be done to ensure accuracy and is – to directly quote the WP's page – "a description of the local city government" (as specified by WP:USCITIES)). Perhaps having the government section revised to also include a description of what each part does would be a more fitting solution? AITFFan1 ( talk) 19:14, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I'm hoping you can help me understand how to appropriately source the assertion that Valparaiso, Indiana (my home town) purposefully excluded racial minorities for much of its past. This is a major fact in the history of a town.
I have cited two authoritative sources. One is a registry of sundown towns curated by a university professor who is cited for his work in the Wikipedia page on Sundown Towns. While it may appear a personal website, it is a research product and a registry that is now maintained by others since the original professor passed away. Note at the bottom of home page for the registry, it says "This site was created by Matt Cheney, copyrighted by James W. Loewen and heirs (Nick Loewen) 1997-2021, and is maintained by Phil Huckelberry and Stephen Berrey. Hosted by Tougaloo College, Tougaloo, MS, 39174 and facilitated by Pantheon."
The second source is a book about the history of housing discrimination in Valparaiso, Indiana with specific focus on an early African-American family that began to integrate the town. It was written in 1984, much closer to the time period in question and details a litany of exclusionary measures taken earlier by town residents. While the book review may not use the term "sundown town", citing it supports the statement that Valparaiso "exclud[ed] non-white people through the use of racially biased ordinances and intimidation." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyattgclarke ( talk • contribs) 19:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi, about a year ago I added Francis Preston "Pete" Peterson -- competitive surfer, accomplished waterman, consultant and stuntman in film -- to the list of notable people associated with the Rockport, Texas on the page for that town. I included references to two articles online [1] [2], both of which mention that he came from Rockport and describe his many "legendary" accomplishments and status as a national champion, as a surfer, waterman, innovative designer of boats and surfboards, etc.
The latter article also points to numerous other references crediting his national reputation and widely-recognized prowess.
I'm not expert enough at reading edit logs on Wikipedia to be certain, but it appears that you deleted his mention several months later, perhaps along with others, with the comment "not notable".
I'm inclined to reinstate him in that list, but thought I'd ask first for you to elaborate on your judgement that he is (or was) not notable. Or, given that you appear to be much more experienced than I am at arbiting Wikipedia standards (I think this was only my second ever edit to a Wikipedia article), is there something specific about the way that I describe him in that one line, or the citations I included, that could be changed to make his notability more apparent or more accomodating of Wikipedia standards?
I included him after a fair bit of digging through historical records, and becoming fascinated by his accomplishments, and especially fascinated by the fact that his association with Rockport (his family ran hotels in that area) was not known to current Rockport "elders" with whom I'd discussed Mr. Peterson.
Otrabanda ( talk) 21:07, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
References
Thanks for the link and suggestions, I'll ponder my options. Otrabanda ( talk) 20:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Can you tell Chariton, Iowa what was missing about my revision to the article from Chariton, Iowa. I am from the area and know it well. I am not sure how to cite references for common things such as railroads and highways as well as airports that are generally known by virtue of being from the area. I thought the article could use a little more description. Please tell me what to do in these situations so it passes muster.
I am from the area and know it well. I am not sure how to cite references for common things such as railroads and highways as well as airports that are generally known by virtue of being from the area. I thought the article could use a little more description. Please tell me what to do in these situations so it passes muster.
I have spend an hour trying to find how to talk with you again. I have thought long and hard about this and I want to close my account. When I get into the into the inside of Wikipedia, I looked at other peoples interactions and there is so much animosity and backbiting (inflammatory statements from superusers that people are vandalizing accounts, etc.) that it makes me very uncomfortable. I do not care for the things I have read and the ways people are treated. I used to think that I would like to do this as a hobby and have a number of articles that I have improved, but I cannot stand the strife and I am always afraid I will be the next target of someone. It makes me very uncomfortable and this is not how I want to spend my retirement years. I will continue to contribute financially to Wikipedia because I believe in it but I do want my account closed, deactivated, made invisible or whatever you do to remove me as an active editor and make it so I cannot edit anymore. If it invalidates all the articles I have edited so be it. Please make it so, I can not figure it out and am so confused trying to do this
I still can not figure out how to close my account from the link you sent. Can you refer me to someone that can help me with this
I'm not sure why standards are being applied to my edits differently from the rest of the content. None of the ethnic groups listed in "other" are referenced with citations, but they are allowed to stay, while mine is removed for lack of citation. Similarly, many of the cities in the category in question do not mention Ukrainians specifically in the main article, yet the category is allowed to remain for those communities, but it is removed for Omaha and Lincoln. Further, the Ethnic groups article for Omaha does already mention immigration from Kiev, which is the capitol of Ukraine. Reference to the German-American Society is exactly as given by another editor in the main article, which has not been removed, but my reference to it under Ethnic groups for Omaha, where I believe it belongs, was removed. In addition, it seems a bit much to have to prove the existence of an ethnic group in a city through outside sources or citation is scholarly papers. If that ethnic group has been quiet and hasn't had a feature story in a newspaper of record, how is one to prove the existence? Despite the fact that they currently have an operating church, a physical building with an address, which exists, a website for that church, an ethnic Association which doesn't get in the news much except in passing mention, but none of these are a satisfactory citation or proof. Well, some of the ethnic groups mentioned in the same article don't even have that much, and no citation for their existence, no doubt due to the same difficulty, yet their mention seems acceptable and is allowed to remain. I'm just not seeing a consistent application of the rules here. -- Kozulich ( talk) 21:18, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure what corrections you are suggesting? Kozulich ( talk) 21:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
That would be malicious. It would be deliberately making the Wikipedia article less accurate and less informative - less honest, in short, since I would be deliberately removing information I know to be true, simply because though easy to verify, it is virtually impossible to cite. I don't think that is the intent of Wikipedia. I know that there are Lithuanian and Serb and Croatian communities in Omaha, because I know them and have been in their halls, and sang in their choirs, eaten in their homes and celebrated at their festivals. But there is no qualifying citation for that. However, I will not maliciously remove that information knowing that the result will be a less accurate and less balanced article. Kozulich ( talk) 00:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia, Hope all is very well with you. A new editor, SkunkaMunka, has been replacing numerous maps to an "interactive map" -- sometimes these new maps don't even geolocate to the correct city (see Colorado Springs map that geolocated to Denver - [I reverted]). I feel like this editor might be trying to make improvements, but don't yet understand how things work on WP (AGF) or there might be something else going on (?). Either way, they really need to use the talk pages before making these types of changes. The reason I'm contacting you is that I noticed that you had some interactions with them on other geographic articles, so it seems you are a good person to contact for insight. Thanks and best, Netherzone ( talk) 21:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia677, I've seen some users complain about your reverting of edits in the past, and although I have no special powers, I wanted to weigh in so it could be resolved in an amicable way.
In the discussions I have seen, you revert previous edits by other users, since the information they provide doesn't include citations. When you do this, I don't believe you are following the guidelines layed out in Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. While the page does say that disruptive editing is disruptive regardless of intention, it refers to information that is not verifiable, not relevant, first-hand, mis-interpreted, etc. Some edits like the one at Hampton Falls, New Hampshire are cleary impartial data that comes from a source. If the user, however, forgets to cite the source, you can use {{ citation needed}} tags, or leave a message on their talk page to make sure they read it.
Even if a disruptive editing warning were appropriate, you should use a level 1 template, when the edit is bona fide. If it is not clear whether there was malicious intent, Wikipedia policy is to generally assume good faith ( Wikipedia:WikiProject User warnings/Usage and layout). Wikipedia warns that not all disruptive editing is vandalism, and the Wikipedia:Disruptive editing explicitly mentions that editors shouldn't over-escalate situation clearly not vandalism, in order toavoid driving away users. Thank you and happy editing! Ktvptf ( talk) 18:18, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
In any case, it doesn't really warrant a {{ subst:Uw-disruptive3}} tag. If you deem it necessary, you can delete the information to be restored later when the sources are available, but I don't really see the case for a disruptive editing tag that requires bad faith. Ktvptf ( talk) 18:51, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Oglesby, Oklahoma does exist. I'm going to create a page on it. I've just made my ten edits; as soon as I've been on WP for four days I'll create the page. King Hilderic ( talk) 15:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm afraid I have to disagree again with your recent edits on Lincoln, Nebraska. Hanyou23 ( talk) 20:27, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Hanyou23 ( talk) 20:27, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
User: Magnolia677, Please review this link I am sending you and re-edit this page. The info you added might be so, but there is a Natchez, MS link on the web that has better history about Concordia Parish Louisiana. I did not add the link because this is well known information. Here is the link and please respond to this message, because I am insulted that true info I edited to this page has been changed and removed. https://www.natchez.ms.us/288/Don-Jose-Vidal?fbclid=IwAR1y0o4bvsMstHvCwDRp_g6J2NCiz-yfoMCW20zsEvgxaMeiaUwZXLye_WA.
User:@Magnolia677 I am sorry, I didn't know this was the case. Can you please add the link to the page for resources. That way nothing is worded from somewhere else word for word. I sincerely apologize, however I still think the Concordia page is missing valuable historic information. Please edit this page and mention these facts. Thank you Spt1020
Hi Magnolia,
Quick question on something involving the Roslyn Estates history section.
One of the things which has been removed a couple of times was the following (there were citations): "In March 2011, Roslyn Estates held one of its most contested elections for Mayor, in which incumbent Susan Ben-Moshe lost by 10 votes to Jeffery Schwartzberg; Ben-Moshe received 178 votes while Schwartzberg received 188."
I know you said it's "not notable" in the history section but I am confused as to why that is. On the WP:USCITIES page, it recommends that topics which should be included in a history section include (but are not limited to) "occupying powers/transitions of power" and "events that shaped the community." The way I see it, the removed information quoted above fits both categories. There are many small villages on Long Island. Elections in tiny villages here on Long Island (like Roslyn Estates) can be very big deals when they become contested and/or contentious (like the one referenced in the removed material). In fact, they can become so dramatic or tight that major papers (i.e.: Newsday and sometimes even the New York Times) report on them.
I don't want to re-add it again without consulting you first. I feel it's notable but that's just my opinion. I'd love to hear and better understand why you feel the way you do about this removed material so I can better understand what is/isn't wise to put into this type of section.
Thanks, AITFFan1 ( talk) 21:19, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
I am happy to remove the captions from the Tommy Johnson photos, but they are otherwise clearly in line with the rest of the page. I otherwise do not appreciate the reverting without discussion, then demanding the same of me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ak198712 ( talk • contribs) 23:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Here we go again. Magnolia677, I am asking you to please have some patience with the Wikipedia contributors and stop driving them away with your hasty deletions. Did you even read the content before you hit the revert button?
Plum borough, Pennsylvania, formerly Plum Township, is not a small dot on the map, a few streets surrounded by unoccupied rural landscape, but rather a region, nearly 29 sq miles to be exact. As such, it does have historical villages and communities within it. It is valuable and relevant to mention, briefly, *in the history section* that historical places existed within the boundaries of the township (now borough). These places appear on Google maps, were referenced from a reliable source, and give historical context to the current landscape. Comparing this borough to other boroughs within Pennsylvania, many others mention the current and historical villages and communities that lie within their borders. I therefore disagree with your statement, "This is unrelated to Plum". They are in Plum, they are related to Plum. It's not like they are big enough to get their own article, that would be silly. According to the guidelines, small entities that are not worthy of their own article can be mentioned in the article of their controlling jurisdiction. That would be Plum. Katrazyna ( talk) 11:32, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Phoenix, Arizona, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. -- Whiteguru ( talk) 10:46, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I would like to say that my (Wikinotmyname) edits to Redwood Shores, California are not promotional and are from valid websites, why should they be removed? Many other Wikipedia articles such as Los Altos Hills, California also contain similar statements and FACTS. Please elaborate more on your judgment that this addition to the article, "The Redwood Shores ZIP code 94065 appeared on the 2015 Forbes list of America's most expensive ZIP codes, with a median home price of $1,138,699. (ref: https://www.forbes.com/sites/betsyschiffman/2015/11/10/full-list-most-expensive-zip-codes-in-2015/?sh=7e4bbae43693)" is considered promotional. I would like my edits to be added back as they were made in good faith with no ulterior motives. Thank you, Wikinotmyname
seriously, why ruin all this good work ... man, you lifers on wiki are real mean and spiteful
I know you've worked on some on the Mississippi side, but would you happen to know about potential sources for a couple in Louisiana? While working on some articles related to the Vicksburg campaign, I've come across references to New Carthage, Louisiana and Duckport, Louisiana. Based on the mentions I'm finding in Vicksburg literature, New Carthage is almost certainly notable. There was a landing at Duckport, although there may have been a community as well. Unfortunately, the Vicksburg sources are mainly focused on when military operations were there, so it's hard to get a good view of the history of these places. Are you aware of any sources that could be used to maybe produce something at least start-class on New Carthage and something for Duckport if its notable? Hog Farm Talk 18:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
I was not aware of that consensus. Thank you for letting me know. Masterhatch ( talk) 18:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
I've updated the Satellite Image of Detroit is the lighting on this version better than the previous version in your opinion Wikihelp7586 ( talk) 22:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Excuse me, I'm working on translating from spanish wikipedia and I'm taking special care to have as much references as I can. As you can see the actors and personalities whose articles I have created are consolidated personalities of the chilean culture, none of them are under 40 years old or has a minor scale career. I don't see how my editions "disrupts progress toward improving an article or building the encyclopedia". If you think there are possibilities to make them better please let me know, but threatening me about blocking me makes no sense to me. Tommy Boy ( talk) 01:15, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
"According to the source cited, none of these were filmed in Moab; perhaps they can be added to the county article."
By that definition, none of the movies listed were filmed with Moab City limits and should be removed. Why just remove my edits? KazakDexter KazakDexter ( talk) 16:42, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I believe the list should be kept and added to. So please delete them if that is your desire. KazakDexter ( talk) 17:15, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I don't think you've been to Moab. Anything within 30 miles is considered close. But that's not the question. The question is should the list be kept. If not, please correct the page. If the list is be kept then my edits should be included. KazakDexter ( talk) 17:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Anything within 30 miles is considered close.The article is about the city of Moab, which according to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 4.1 square miles. It is not an article about the surrounding area. I think that the list should only include films shot in Moab. KazakDexter, if you want to create a new article of "Films shot in areas near Moab, Utah" you are free to do so. Netherzone ( talk) 18:37, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I lived there but that's moot. Can you then remove the list of films on the Moab page. I do not believe any on the list were filmed within city limits. KazakDexter ( talk) 18:48, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I believe the list should be kept. If I redo my edits will they be taken down but not the rest of the movies even though they are incorrect for the same reason?
KazakDexter ( talk) 19:04, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Netherzone, what about creating a new article you mention "Films shot in areas near Moab, Utah" then linking to it from the Moab page. Best of both worlds? KazakDexter ( talk) 23:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
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KazakDexter and
Netherzone: Let me suggest a workaround which would likely be of more benefit to readers. The "Moab to Monument Valley Film Commission" is located in Moab, and is a
city department.
It is the oldest film commission in the world.
Readers would benefit from knowing about the commission, and it would be perfectly acceptable to say "the commission has overseen the production of several movies filmed near Moab, including...".
I suggest it be placed in the "economy" section of the article. I also don't think the commission is notable enough for its own article.
Sources are a mix of primary and secondary, but the uniformity of information supports their reliability. See: [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19]. Magnolia677 ( talk) 10:51, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Magnolia677, a question. Would you list all movies filmed near Moab or just a few? I've found my desire to document every piece of information on a subject is not the Wikipedia way. I think a complete listing would be correct, instead of a judgement of the movies to list. But I'd like your opinion. KazakDexter ( talk) 16:08, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Ok, made the edits. Left film listing where it was but changed to Moab area. KazakDexter ( talk) 20:20, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Made the edits. Left the film list where it was but changed to area around Moab. Did not add any films. I suspect others will. KazakDexter ( talk) 20:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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That square area is precisely the extent of the National Topographic System map with that ID. There was no way for that extent to be exhibited, so I had to create one. And apparently NRCan's website does not like CGNDB links to be accessed like that. -- Denelson 83 21:45, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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30 minutes ago you removed the "& Politics" from the "Government & Politics" section title. I, however, intentionally did it that way, as this is also seen at other county wikipedia pages (sometimes in combination with police/policing or law, sometimes not) if anything related to both politics and government is mentioned. See for example Harris County: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_County,_Texas or Gwinnett County: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwinnett_County,_Georgia Therefore I will edit it back. If you, after reading this, still disagree, I'd like to hear from you why. Sincerely, Ludeejee ( talk) 18:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
I understand the grammar part that was wrong, therefore I changed it. I do believe that a heading that says "Government and politics" is better than just "Government" since it concerns both issues. The first part of the topic is the government. How is the county governed and by whom? The second part concerns the politics of the county. How did the county vote in presidential elections from 1912-2020? Is it a Democratic/Republican stronghold or is it a swing county? What is the trend that the county's election results are following? Etc. I believe that that's significantly different from each other to justify naming both in the heading as opposed to naming just one. Sincerely, Ludeejee ( talk) 17:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
The link worked fine for me and i dont see whats wrong with linking to what the clubs belong to?
Hi Magnolia677 , if you have the time would you mind taking a look at the White Latin Americans article, I'm currently reading on Latin American history and am concerned that the article is riddled with errors by a number of editors to promote a certain image of Latin America that is not based in fact. For example, some of the facts and figures in the Mexico section are really vague and evidently false, (often contradicting US government statistics) however any edits make to correct it are frequently reverted by these editors who go on to provide dubious sources in Spanish. As a result, the article in very unencyclopedic and cannot be relied upon as a resource for academic study. Would you be able to take a look at this or contact an editor who can? Thanks!
If had ready access to a reliable source of this data, the way that the person who obviously created most of the school district articles did years ago, I would gladly help to do that. For now, I am hoping that there are people who live in most of the districts who will at least see this and update the one for their county/city/area. These data have mostly been apparently untouched for over a dozen years, and recognizing the problem is the first step to correcting it – certainly not the be all and end all of correcting it. 22:07, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia677, Thanks for adding the great photo of Bertha Tapper! I noticed that you reverted my reflist/default sort. Am I doing that incorrectly? What is the right way to do it? Thanks T. E. Meeks ( talk) 19:38, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Do you have Against All Enemies the book? The page and other pages state
"He [Norman Mineta]] did not know where they were that day. I (Richard Clark) suggested he join the Vice President."(Cheney who was already in the PEOC) So therefore, Mineta was in the PEOC.
Condo951795 ( talk) 14:09, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your input and perhaps you can help further. I have written this on David Eppstien's talk page. He hasn't answered, perhaps you will. thanks
Why would you remove the link on the Redding California page that I re-inserted. The local information provided had been provided on this very page for many years and recently updated. And while you were at it you removed others from local subjects that again were providing information and photos of the beauty that surrounds our area.
Redding CA “Places of Interest” with images and information of the surrounding beauty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejlewis (talk • contribs) 20:53, 9 September 2021 (UTC) You are a spammer and I am removing your spam. The match between your editor name and the name of the realtor listed on those links is telling. In addition, by failing to declare your conflict of interest in this matter, you are violating Wikipedia's policy on undeclared paid edits. You should not be promoting your real estate company by spamming links to it to Wikipedia articles. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC) I am not a spammer, feel free to contact me! Just a local resident who has spent a great deal of time putting together helpful information for people who are interested in the Redding area. Did you take the time to look at the link?? This is exactly the type of content that I am regularly complimented on and it has been a part of the Wikipedia site for many years for good reason. NO one is being paid and I am not self serving in trying to sell these natural wonders.
If you want to see spam take a look a the "reference" section that includes a link to a gambling site. That is no added content for visitors at all. "City of Redding Flag". Retrieved August 19, 2017. As well as real estate based link with no value to the visitor.
Does your concept of self-serving also include c-span link directly above? It is a private enterprise showing local information, yet it is allowed stay?? How about Bethel Church making their own page to self serve. How far down this rabbit hole is reasonable? Apparently, you and I differ on this. Value added for a visitor is the goal of internet pages worth reading and this is what I have provided on this page and previously many others that are included in the “places of Interest” portion of my website. I’m sorry if you don’t see the helpfulness in this type of content. You are the first in all these years on Wikipedia to do this so I’m a bit flabbergast!!
Thank you, fortunately a conversation is occurring here: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Redding_realtor This is not as superficial as saying I'm spam, a thoughtful response would have been helpful.
Please stop...
https://news.yahoo.com/2020-census-much-did-population-141400757.html
This information was directly from the 2020 census, I provided you with the source. Instead of erasing factual information, perhaps you should assist in making it sourced to wiki's standards. Otherwise you look like a megalomaniac.
Please note that if Snowbowl photo is not deemed to be in Flagstaff area (even though referenced in article), then you should also remove photo of Grand Canyon and the winter scene in the climate section, as neither of these are in Flagstaff proper. Please be consistent, thanks
Hello friend! I noticed you removed some information I added regarding the Tardy Furniture murders under the premise of it being “unnecessary.” I would like to respectfully disagree. Our city has been living in the shadow of the Flowers’ trials and subsequent aftermath since 1996, and it is an often discussed topic. The content I added was unbiased, fair and neutral information related to the facts of the matter more recently. I would kindly ask that this information is restored or a better explanation is given as to why it was removed and what your connection to the matter may or may not be for transparency.
Thank you and god bless MudMag ( talk) 16:09, 18 September 2021 (UTC) MudMag ( talk) 16:09, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
@Magnolia677: I can see your argument fully if there was a bias, but it was a case that garnered national attention— all the way up to the Supreme Court. Wikipedia, although written for a wider audience, is a wealth of knowledge and often times a center-point for verification of these events. Given that Mr. Flowers was tried six times in total, a very unprecedented act, and the nature of the situation as a whole, I feel it is an injustice to omit the very few details that were actually added. Until this impasse is resolved, I ask that you promptly restore these edits in good faith and I will gladly create a discussion on the talk page asking for further opinions from other trusted editors. MudMag ( talk) 03:26, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
I am not trying to vandalize the Natick High School page, I am trying to add an Infobox college athletics template (even though it's a high school) on the page. Sorry about that. Do you want me to cite where the facilities are and/or is there something else wrong with that? Please let me know and again I am incredibly sorry. I am just trying to help.
First and foremost, one of the fundamental principles of the Wikipedia community is to assume good faith, as I hope you know. Taking a look through your talk page, it seems that you don't like to abide by this policy and will delete new edits if they are unsourced, rather than contributing a source yourself or adding the {citation needed} tag. I come in peace, but I am curious about your style. What are your thoughts on taking a "Yes, and..." approach to editing rather than instinctively reverting edits if they're not perfect from the outset? Isn't Wikipedia on the whole always imperfect, and the goal to improve it together, bit by bit? -- Sweetstache ( talk) 00:36, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
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Do you want to move the Fairbank, Iowa discussion over to one of the following talk pages (or some other location) to get more involvement or do you want to invite more people to comments at Talk:Fairbank,_Iowa ???
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please listen to me are do not remove in this results including top 15, then 4th to 1st runners-up, and then miss international 2016 thank you.
please listen to me do not remove in this results including top 15, then 4th to 1st runners-up, and then miss international 2016 because this is sourced content!
there is the source of order of announcements including top 15, then 4th to 1st runners-up, and then the winner of miss international 2016 but please note are do not remove order of announcements at Miss International 2016 -> /info/en/?search=Miss_International_2016#Order_of_announcements
....for adding the ref on the Trudeau article. I said I'd do it but didn't get to it yesterday. Littleolive oil ( talk) 18:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Not sure why you feel it is necessary to undo my work on these. All of the people I listed on the Maple Heights page except one are grads of Maple Heights High School. I went to school with two of them, Bruce Grooms (who is a legend in Maple Heights for his accomplishments) and Dale Mohorcic. My brother graduated with Ric Ocasek. Len Kosmalski was captain of the MH Mustangs basketball team. Mike Milkovich, for whom there is no Wikipedia article, is in the National Wrestling Hall of Fame, winning 10 state championships as coach at Maple Heights. teaching at the high school 27 years. https://nwhof.org/news/distinguished-member-mike-milkovich-passes-away
As for Masin, who you indicate "only went to school there... " Good grief, how picky do you want to be? Look at the Charleroi, PA page. It mentions that Olive Thomas (movie actress) is from Charleroi. That's it. But on the Charleroi page it certainly lists her as one its notable people.
As far as Brooklyn Heights, where I now reside, there are "Home of" signs for Kelli Stack when you enter the Village, and Flip Saunders was also a legend (father passed away only a few years ago). Both attended Cuyahoga Heights High School - all Brooklyn Heights, Valley View and Cuyahoga Heights, Ohio students attend this school system. The villages, while suburbs of Cleveland, are small. Typical graduating classes at the high school are less the 80. If you wish I will take a pic of the Kelli Stack sign and put it on her page, and find an article for Saunders that shows where he grew up, add it to his article and footnote it.
I grew up in Maple Heights, live in Brooklyn Heights. I'm proud of both places. I've been a Wikipedian for a long time and I take my work seriously. I'm not doing this to play around. Please respect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apfenn1 ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I believe you are being purposely vague. Define "significant." If one's growing up in a community and graduating high school from that community's school district isn't "significant" and defines one's home town, I don't know what is.
I'm recently retired and had been hoping to work on many Wikipedia articles. Reverts such as yours certainly take the joy and spirit out of what had been such a collaborative effort for so long. If the Wikipedia demigods deem it, it must be so, I suppose. I certainly am not inclined to bother as much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apfenn1 ( talk • contribs) 14:17, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the lecture. I haven't had one of those since mom died 25 years ago, so I was due. Let's cut to the chase - go to the "Garfield Heights, Ohio" page on Wikipedia and explain to me how the "Notable People" entries on that page are any different than the ones I entered for Maple Heights and Brooklyn Heights. Garfield Heights is located between these two cities, in case you care. What are you going to do? Eliminate the "Notable People" section in Garfield Heights? My point is, if this is your "cause," you have a lot of work ahead of you on Wikipedia with all of the "Notable People" sections. Have at it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apfenn1 ( talk • contribs) 00:03, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
You really messed the page up now... they are no industrial complex in Council Virginia.. you guys are absolutely crazy.. you need stop acting like god and deleting peoples work..because you have got all lies on the page now Trespassingintothewild ( talk) 12:11, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Please don’t erase my edits! I added a reliable article and county website links..WTF Trespassingintothewild ( talk) 13:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
http://www.uszipcodelist.com/city/Council-VA.html That’s a reliable source ! On the water and land . Sq miles Trespassingintothewild ( talk) 13:15, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello @ Magnolia677:. It's good to see you again. I see you have been busy. However, I am curious why you hit that revert button again (and again) with no explanation at all. Thirteen pages reverted but not the matching three more? Either you have an explanation of the difference or you are slacking on your thoroughness. Just curious about your line of reasoning. Katrazyna ( talk) 22:50, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia677. While I was about fixing citation errors and came across a town where the estimation year and qty had been removed (causing the cite error). I've come across this before and it's usually resulted in your reverting all the changes. To be clear I don't mind as long as the error is gone. Anyway
208.83.126.66 has made these same edits to different articles. I've already fixed the cite errors, but thought you might want to look at the edits. Is this some kind of long term nonsense?
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So if you read fiction books about Ridgewood, NJ or Keyser, WV, it would NEVER occur to you that they should be included in the “In Popular Culture” sections of the respective towns? Who the heck knows what else you are censoring or incorrectly editing? Good luck to you, I hope that you have other things going on in your life other than policing Wiki. JF Krizan ( talk) 21:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
It is valuable to compile information regarding the origin of the name of St. Catharines, since information is available in sources yet was not on the wikipedia page. You said it did not meet the principle of "balance" because "Half the history section should not be about the name of the place." It was not half of the history section. The information provided was well-cited; if you believe it was too long, I encourage you to make edits (or add to the history section). It is inappropriate remove the entire section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbotsavoy ( talk • contribs) 16:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I have been editing Wikipedia pages of stadiums RHCP will perform in 2022. So firstly, i edited it and you removed it because it was unsorced. Although, no other concerts on these pages were sourced, I can understand. Then, when i added adequate source, you removed it with excuse that lists are clearly for past events. But the problem is they are not. It does not say anywhere. And search some other stadiums and arenas, majority will have future events if there is anything scheduled. This is officialy announced tour and will happen. So i will revert all your edits now, and please stop removing it. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball
Thanks Luckyfish4212 ( talk) 15:39, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes i actually saw my mistake when i looked at the Sr-71 it also was operated by the U.S Airforce my bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki person that edits ( talk • contribs) 22:37, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Please explain in the text who "Major Merriam" is, seeing as you insist upon leaving out an entire graf which puts future references such as that one in proper context? -- 72.197.197.39 ( talk) 21:19, 21 October 2021 (UTC) ( SchutteGod, not logged in)
Why are you like this , why should we add references if there is no article about that but they is a proof of that they realesed song on streaming platforms .you dont need a source to prove that they work with certain artist if you can just find the music on the streaming platform. you south African are unprofessional check American artist there is no source om associated acts. Cause music is already realesed to everyone. You just want to delete cause you can? Kandyname ( talk) 13:18, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Magnolia677 - you deleted all my edits. I updated the census data and provided citations for it. You deleted all my edits included those that had citations. Which edits did you need citations for? Be specific and don't delete everything. 575Dorset ( talk) 18:48, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Can you plz answer the question, what should i do to prove that certain artists have worked together ,,,if no blog or media wrote about their collaboration but music they released is already on streaming platforms. " I saw that you deleted my associated acts edit " and plz give me link to article where they added source on that category. Kandyname ( talk) 20:39, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Please stop reverting my edits just because I forgot to add the sources in. DENBRO1995 ( talk) 21:20, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
I changed the source. Good day. DENBRO1995 ( talk) 21:30, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
I did not access the source in 2014. I went on the census.gov and looked for population info. That's how I got the source. Now stop wasting my time. DENBRO1995 ( talk) 21:38, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Fine, I fixed it! DENBRO1995 ( talk) 21:49, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
See the List of counties in Montana article, mister. DENBRO1995 ( talk) 23:41, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
I also made the same mistake of leaving 2020 census data unsourced on the Southwest Ranches, Florida article. I now added a citation and updated the source. Arecaceæ2011 ( talk) 22:55, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia677, I edited the demography section of Willowdale page as it was outdated, it was for 2006 and I updated to the last information published available which the numbers and percentages are totally changed! You have reverse it back to 2006, I live in the neighbourhood and I think the information should be updated! I object your deletion of my edit and my reference and ask you to bring back my edt and reference! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saman homes ( talk • contribs) 01:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
That is interesting that you donot recognize even that you quote" foreign-language " is Farsi who are the majority of the Willowdale residents are talking! The outdated information give false clue in a public page that are searching our site and asking us why in Wikipedia Willowdale demography is different than what you and government says! I am giving true and updated info to this page so when people are investing their money somewhere they know where it goes to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saman homes ( talk • contribs) 14:21, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Naperville, Illinois, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. It's correct info, from the 2020 US census, he just didn't cite it. Also, it has sources in other places of the article. Lectrician2 ( talk) 17:19, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
I do believe you removed my addition of Sergeant William Grant Fournier from the list of "Notable people" in the South Kingstown, Rhode Island article. I do have a source to prove he lived in South Kingstown, however it's the only existing source. Scroll down and he's on there, right below Corporal Champagne and above General Rodman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SusImposter49 ( talk • contribs) 20:26, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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This maple leaf is awarded to Magnolia677 for writing or expanding four Canadian geography articles during the fifth year of The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg ( talk) 16:15, 8 November 2021 (UTC) |
Hi, I noticed your warnings on Hobbitschuster's talke page right after I left them an AGF reminder not to cite things with bare URLs. You may want to take a look at their edits to Trailer-on-flatcar. I don't speak German, but based on the issues at Double-stack rail transport I'd say there's a good chance what they added isn't supported by the references they added. Thanks! Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 14:57, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I am a graduate student working on a project to embed images from the Park County Local History Digital Archive into relevant Wikipedia articles. All images that I have uploaded to the following articles have been since removed: Shawnee, Colorado; Alma, Colorado; Fairplay, Colorado. All of the images I contributed are historical photographs from those locations. None of it is spam or irrelevant material. Why are my contributions being undone? Thanks! Calliebcherry ( talk) 22:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello! You removed the edits I made to the Celina, Texas page last week about Kenney Chesney visiting. Can you please explain why you did so? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heidimakb ( talk • contribs) 09:39, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
That makes sense, thank you! I am new to this so I wasn't sure how to do so but I will make sure I know how before attempting any more edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heidimakb ( talk • contribs) 02:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC) SFletch ( talk) 16:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Beeblebrox ( talk) 19:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
Sorry, I am currently working maybe 300+ edits a day. So I must have missed that one, even though I am taking your concern very seriously, and always trying to ensure proper source/cited in the original article. I was not able to find one in this case, and so I deleted the offending edit that included a 1971 birth date. Thanks! Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk) 22:52, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Please don't undo the whole thing. I must rewrite those all over again. It's not like the whole thing I just wrote was all reference-less. Imagine undo-ing the one where I changed "mini album" to "extended play" BaaBaaTheSheep( talk • ctb) 15:15, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia. Lets try and get some resolution to this at last please so I don't have an aneurysm over just trying to do "Notable people" edits and having all of my work reverted... over, and over again. I have tried AGAIN to seek consensus now at this page. Please comment and help to build the consensus that I somehow keep thinking we have, but very obviously I suppose I do not actually have... Thanks! Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk) 19:52, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Will you be going in to each article of each person you have reverted and then removing the birthdate if it is unsourced at the cite of the article? That is unsourced information too, no? Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk) 22:43, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello :D Billlie (group) already has an album charted on the country's music chart, ranking 12. So is it still proposed to be deleted? Thanks. Also I'm sorry if this message sounded unfriendly. BaaBaaTheSheep( talk • ctb) 09:22, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Not notable? No. You don't know the content of what you are editing. If you bothered to read the linked NYT obit, you would have learned that you deleted one of the very top level contemporary art collectors of post-WWII art. If you are "above" the editorial decision-making of the NYT, the Metropolitan Museum of Art website, etc. please do inform. Maybe you can start editing for the NYT and other very established American art institutions on matters of high culture in the USA.
Sorry, there is consensus with NYT, Metropolitan Museum of Art, the over 80+ artworks donated to the National Gallery of Art, and if you bothered and had access to a decent uni library database, basic research, not just arrogant "Oh I don't know" dismissiveness, you'd see obits all over the USA in c. 1987. In your arrogant position, you feel your take, with no knowledge, requires consensus. Sorry, you need to educate yourself. And you show bias, a "left-wing rag"? You should be reported to higher up Wikipedia.
Re. you message on my page. As you will see this is the first dispute I have had with anyone, while your history can be seen above. I left a message with Kinu. I have asked him a number of questions about how one disputes the reverting by an editor clearly unknowledgeable with the content who won't take 10 minutes to learn the content and who has shown a bias against the NYT-- and for an obit. If one doesn't like the NYT, fair enough, one could replace with a range from newspapers across the US, as opposed to deleting.
We are two kinds of editors. I often clean up inline citations for others, as a long ago editor and uni educator. I don't slash and burn content I don't know about.
Kinu, maybe this is cultural. There is no incivility here. You have a BA in Econ from Yale. I studied a few Econ modules. I would not revert anything on an Econ content page without knowing the content, or looking into it.
Kinu, are you independent?! hehe. You forgot "you may find yourself in the naughty chair" and "left-wing rag". Maybe let the interpretive dance prof grade your PhD papers, in, is it stat?:-) In any event, we've taken this to your page. You are a volunteer administration and that chain can resolve this conflict I believe in a proper way.
Ok, here's my last attempt before I go to the dispute page. The two complaints are (A) not wiki page. That's not true: Elza Temary has a page, and that was wiki-linked, but was considered not notable; and Tremaine has Miller Company Collection of Abstract Art with first paragraph: "The Miller Company Collection of Abstract Art (c. 1945-55) was formed in Meriden, Connecticut as part of the Miller Company. The collection was formed by then-CEO Burton Tremaine, Sr. and his wife/Miller Co. art director Emily Hall Tremaine in c. 1945." The whole page is about that work, and it is why if you checked in proquest, you will see hundreds of articles.
Second, the expert bit. It talks about sources as most important. Fair enough. One tries to be minimal. Well, you've got an obit in the NYT as a sample obit, and any number across the US seen in proquest could be used, but the NYT is online. Then you have a full article in Santa Barbara magazine that is offline; there are many offline. Do these not show notability? If adding for example a Metropolitan Museum website profile, or a National Gallery of Art page showing 80+ donated works, or a sample news article, all over US news in several cities, with works sold in two big record-breaking auctions in the late 1980s, does this convince of notability in this context? Was the Miller Co wiki page read? Mrdnartdesign ( talk) 18:25, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Guys, you may not have heard of her because you are younger, but you really then need to read the Miller Company Collection of Abstract Art. She and her husband owned it. I would not advise 4 articles for this stuff: her, her husband, their Miller Co collection, the later Tremaine collection. If you look at the end President Obama was photographed with one of her works. There is a whole list of the biggest artists in the 20th century. I added three quick links to Jamie's page: article in WP, Met profile, Natl Gallery. I'll assume Elza is back in as she has a clear named wiki page Mrdnartdesign ( talk) 19:41, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
To be helpful, three additional links, high-status notability. there is also a biography and 3 books on her collection, two from Christie's, one Wadsworth Atheneum and one by Louise Lawler, all considered top level of wiki: The Met has their own page https://www.metmuseum.org/art/libraries-and-research-centers/leonard-lauder-research-center/research/index-of-cubist-art-collectors/tremaine
National Gallery of Art, DC https://www.nga.gov/collection/provenance-info.101.html
in WP https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1988/11/10/auction/7df5263e-2780-4620-aea6-95a9fd06f684/ Mrdnartdesign ( talk) 20:01, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Wow! So, at this admin level, if a subject is all over the media over years, and on top level cultural sites, they may not be considered notable. It's interesting because I read a lot of wiki and I often see things not at this level, and that's why I find it shocking. I see you are looking for motive; what I am trying to get clarity on is "notability". My background is cultural and academic over 35 years. If Tremaine is not notable in my sphere, then so many others get kicked out. Sure I add things from cultural sites and newspapers that fill in information gaps, and clean up inline citations like a crossword puzzle. Mrdnartdesign ( talk) 20:22, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
So now I am considered a spammer after this pursuit of "notability". Yes, I do research on things that end up with various sources as contributions, including artdesigncafe. For example, I am probably the most knowledgeable person regarding several design histories. Does that not add value? Otherwise there's nothing at times on wikipedia. If you have the power for a spam assertion, which I presume you do. Please take action to have every contribution I have ever made to wikipedia deleted. Can you do that? Mrdnartdesign ( talk) 20:41, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
You seem to have the power, please blacklist it. Everything I ever added. Every inline citation list I ever cleaned up. After today, I want nothing to do with Wikipedia. Mrdnartdesign ( talk) 21:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia677. You sent me a note about editing Colin Campbell Cooper's entry without leaving a source. I am not sure what I added, but I assume it was his burial place of West Laurel Hill Cemetery in Bala Cynwyd, PA. My source is that I am a volunteer tour guide at the cemetery and I include him on some of my tours. Not sure how to improve on eyewitness information. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrlexjr ( talk • contribs) 12:38, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi there,
So I really want us. Just you and I, to come to a way to work together. I am trying my best here, and I do not mean to offend, or ignore, but I am having a really hard time. No one else seems to be responding to anything that I write on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline#Notable people section. It is disheartening, because I am totally okay with NOT "winning" consensus to my view point, but I wish then people would at least contribute feedback to counter it as I've asked many questions now (not just of yourself, but of many other editors on this and I'm about to give up). As you saw today, I was not even working a notable section in towns or cities any more, because you said that you like those and I didn't want to step on any toes of articles that you like to work on. Anyway, I just did a format edit for the last list that I had worked for a few hours that you reverted. The funny thing is, based on a comment you said about the NY times, I think you and I would actually get along nicely and be friends in real life... but alas, here we are, with this crappy medium of communication.
Please let me know how best to proceed. I'll give up on these lists at this point if you want me to. But my preference would be if we could tag team them for references somehow and/or somehow work together... Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk) 20:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Lastly. I saw you deleted my cheese burger. Which made me sad. :( ♥ Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk) 22:27, 28 November 2021 (UTC)