Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Qcne was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: We cannot host content based on Fandom Wikis.

Qcne (talk) 11:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

If the description of the faction was written from the evidence provided by the game, would that article be accepted? JonJ937 ( talk) 11:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Unfortunately not, @ JonJ937. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia of notable topics: we need to see significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are completely independent of the game.

So, for example, if you found multiple separate games journalism websites that discuss the Cult of Kosmos in detail, that may be acceptable.

Fandom.com is never a reliable source. Qcne (talk) 11:35, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks @ Qcne. Is there a list of reliable gaming journalism sites I could use? JonJ937 ( talk) 11:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

There's this @ JonJ937: WP:RSP which lists frequently used sources.

But you'll usually have to evaluate yourself if the source is reliable or not. You can do this by checking:

- does the website have a named editorial team?

- is the website a mainstream and well-known, i.e. has awards?

- does the website have a solid presence, i.e. active social media, a physical office address, etc?

- is the website part of a larger well known organisation?

- is there evidence of spamdexing, paid promotion, AI-generated articles, etc. These are all red flags. Qcne (talk) 11:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks again @ Qcne. If you read the article, what do you think about the language/composition? JonJ937 ( talk) 11:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

It's written in an okay way, I don't see any issues with neutrality. Maybe my only concern is that it is written from a real-world point of view, when it is discussing a fictional organisation. Qcne (talk) 11:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I see, thanks @ Qcne. JonJ937 ( talk) 12:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Qcne I have sourced the following articles, please let me know if they are acceptable sources. I will post the links below:

https://mashable.com/article/assassins-creed-odyssey-historical-figures

https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/11/17964372/assassins-creed-odyssey-best-historical-characters-socrates-leonidas

https://www.vg247.com/assassins-creed-odyssey-interview-history

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/22vdPhUVHV68b2FEjcotkW/assassins-creed-odyssey-the-game-that-greece-built

https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/08/15/assassins-creed-odyssey-athens

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/assassins-creed-odyssey-director-talks-story-and-r/1100-6459994/

https://www.eurogamer.net/three-hours-with-assassins-creed-odyssey JonJ937 ( talk) 04:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi @ JonJ937. Most of them don't really mention the cult at all. They're good sources for looking at the development of the game, but not for your draft I am afraid. Qcne (talk) 08:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks @ Qcne I'm trying to get this right as I believe it is a decent article.

Would these be suitable references:

https://gamerant.com/assassins-creed-odyssey-kassandra-story-cult-kosmos-deimos-atlantis/

https://www.gamepressure.com/assassins-creed-odyssey/who-are-kosmos-cultists/zdb60e

https://www.thegamer.com/assassins-creed-odyssey-origins-ubisoft-plotlines-between/

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/AssassinsCreedOdysseyCultOfKosmos

thank you greatly for your assistance JonJ937 ( talk) 08:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hey @ Qcne, I've scrapped the last article and am working on a new one. This game dropped beginning of the month, so hopefully i can contribute to Wikipedia. JonJ937 ( talk) 04:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sorry for not responding to your last message, I missed it in my sea of notifications.

I do think starting on a more notable topic is probably a better idea. Check out WP:NVIDEOGAME which, though not a policy is a useful essay.

I'll also just add there are plenty of ways to contribute to Wikipedia without creating articles! In fact, creating an article is probably the single most difficult task a new editor can do - akin to performing in a concern when you've only just picked up an instrument for the first time.

We have plenty of newcomer tasks and improvements you could make. Check out SPECIAL:HOMEPAGE for some suggestions. Qcne (talk) 14:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks @ Qcne, have to break a few eggs to make that omelette, so practice makes perfect. Even though the process is difficult, I am enjoying learning. Thank you for the resources and your help JonJ937 ( talk) 04:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Any time, just ping me if you have any questions. :) Qcne (talk) 13:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks. JonJ937 ( talk) 13:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hello, JonJ937! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Qcne (talk) 11:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Blockhaj the edits I made to the last chapter section of your assassins creed Valhalla article were made to retain an element of objectivity and keep the same theme throughout your article. Please explain to me why they were reverted? JonJ937 ( talk) 04:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply

They/them indicate several people or multiple personality dissorder (etc), which is not the case. Use he/she rather to indicate that the player can choose gender. Blockhaj ( talk) 14:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't understand how the use of they in this context could be seen that way please could you explain further JonJ937 ( talk) 18:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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