What's going on guys, talk with me here.
John Mayor ERS ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
So I am requesting a THIRD time do to me apparently not making my case clear to administrators such as
Max Semenik (
talk), which I suppose makes sense since they are probably too busy to read the WHOLE talk page as closely as I though they would. So in response THIS TIME I am going to make this request with as much info as I can to move me away from the though that I am this "jakandsig" user, and I will go over each accusation by category, and include my own thoughts and comparisons as well, all in ONE place. Also don't let other users trick you,
I made this request following the Guidelines for appealing blocks I don't mind waiting, please admins, take your time. I know you are busy.
EDIT WARRING: :There are multiple people in this talk page claiming there was an edit war. Let me first be very clear that even if there was an edit war, the people saying I was in edit-war are only talking about ONE article, which seems to be the exact opposite of the accounts I am accused of being, and that's easily check-able by clicking on their "contribs' so I think it should end with this right here. But that's not going to work. so I will prove my point below to defend myself. The ONLY links that have been shown to "claim" I was edit warring were from Sergecross73 at the top of the page (and was later copied by an anonymous user). The same Sergecross who said I was "constantly" reverting articles (I have posted in like 7 articles wut?) and changes (Yet I have mostly only made edits in articles that remove information without sources. Only times I made changes to articles was a grand total of 2 TIMES.) both of which he backpedaled from later because he may have realized what he wrote was untrue. :NOW, let's look at what I am accused of, 2 users have used these examples as a way of "proving" I was edit-warring and to quote Sergecross73 exactly, "You broke 3RR at Sega Saturn, with 5 reverts (clear cut, undeniable proof shown above)":
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5] :Let's look over this argument. First of all the 5th link was in a span of about 4DAYS APART!!! It was also in response to a user who just reverted my previous edit before for no reason other than because he wanted to. Mostly because he, like a few others, were probably quick to assume I was this "jak" so just removed it. I reverted it back. Especially since it was consensus on the talk page as you can see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Sega_Saturn&diff=596436390&oldid=596433879 (scroll down to the bottom of the page, indisputable) :The 4th link, which is practically the ONLY thing anyone can hold on to, was not only about a DAY later, but the edit BEFORE this I had reverted my statement to wait for anyone to come by with any sources first. Then after C.freds edit, I went back to the consensus that is seen CLEARLY on this page, where I also said that I would wait a day before changing based on consensus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Sega_Saturn&diff=596436390&oldid=596433879 (scroll down to the bottom of the page. indisputable) Then you have to realize that no matter what you read or don't read, or what you believe and don't believe, this is the most obivous strawman argument one could have. Even if this was an edit war (although I have just proven that it isn't) it ended way before I was blocked. It also is not comparable to jaks ACTUAL edit-wars,
which seem to involve insults and telling people they are idiots. That's not even close to comparable guys, come on! You are comparing me to this?
PLAYSTATION 4 ARTICLE: :The other primary argument against me, and only by one person, Sergecross73, is that I made 3 "sloppy edits" to the Playstation 4 article. I believe he used "3" to make it seem like a "constant" situation, as if I actually edited 3 times to get close to an edit war or something. Oddly, that user completely misses this link every time I show it, and conveniently, so did the 2 admins who denied my last two requests:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=PlayStation_4&diff=597244190&oldid=597243415 :Now looking at this link, you see my second revert. Since the information I was putting in was also in the body of the article of sorts (mark cerny etc.) I figured I did not need to go to the talk page. While Sergecross73 keeps insisting he "told me" to go to the talk page as if I was just reverting edits, he always failed to see his quote here that tells me to "rework" my sentence. Leading to a third revert by me at HIS REQUEST!!!! Even he did not think I had to go to the talk page at first. But argues like he had to tell me as if it was a problem, which it wasn't!
So now that the primary arguments have been discussed, let's move on to the secondary arguments because I want to leave no stone un-turned.
RECENTLY CREATED ACCOUNT: Now this is understandable when you look at the period when I joined. The Investigations page excluding me had 9 different users accused of being this guy. 8 being confirmed. So I understand that people will suspect new accounts. But I am pretty sure there are like 100 new accounts created on wikipedia a day. Not to mention, my Very first edit, was the game I named myself after, and then every edit I made was simple removal of undesirable text that had no substance. But looking at the other users blocked
It's not like I jumped into the Dreamcast page and told people to STFU and then made an account and "
went back to the Dreamcast page" and the one again, "
Going back to the Dreamcast page". While I was a newer account, there is clearly a difference in attitude between me and the "jak" user. In fact, due to the angry writing on my talk page, the users accusing me are actually closer to this guy than I am! (If your technical and reach for the lowest stone. Not saying they are, just saying my attitude is further from him then theirs.) So I think this is an overly poor argument.
THE SAME ARTICLES:
This the last argument that was made. But this should be fairly easy. First of all, originally I did not think this was fair since outside of talk pages, I counted that I have been in only exactly 11 aricles . But then I checked out the "contribs" of each account. Here are all the Contribs of each user including the
Investigation page itself:
Guardianbot,
Friedbandicoot,
VirtualRay,
Chanmurphy,
Jakandsig,
TheKingz,
The Kings,
KombatPolice,
VideoGamemuseum. :Now, I looked at all of these. Every, single, one, in pain to prove to you that I have nothing to do with these users. After searching, I found that I only posted in a grand total of 2 of the same articles. 2 out of 11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I add talk pages it's like 2 out of 20. Yet for most of those other accounts, I see around 5+. Including making the same arguments. BOOSH! (quote from Haze video game.) I hope you see that "same articles" is in fact, wrong.
Now I will do a few of my own comparisons.
ANGER: Jak is a very angry man. This may take awhile But here is the
Investigation list again. I can pick out at least 2 angry edits from almost each user on that page. GuardianBot:
1 and
2, Virtual Ray:
1 and
2, Jakandsig:
1 and
2, TheKingz/Kings(I assume they are the same):
1 and
2, KombatPolice:
1 and
2, Videomuseum:
1 and
2. :You see this? It's like he's out to kill. You will not find anything like this in any of my edits. :Not to mention, that while I was going through the "contribs" of these users to find these, I noticed that they have posted across many MORE of the same articles than I guessed before. Please click on the "contribs" of each above to see what I mean.
MY CONTRIBUTIONS: I have made multiple contributions, including helping user Red Phoenix, which you can see on his talk page and the Sega Saturn section he made above on my talk page. I assist people, not tell them to STFU like Jak does. I have also been thanked for my contribution on the
Nintendo Entertainment System page, and was going to use Red Phoenixs template to improve video game articles. As you know, a lot of them are quite bad. I made mostly edits that remove information, but I also did a little fixing in articles like
Body Blows and others to just fix them up. I haven't really made actual noticeable changes in my edits outside of two occurrences, but I believe my contributions so far have helped a few users and have been pretty basic. I would like to try and advance my editing skills further, although I can't do that without being unblocked. I actually am surprised I was blocked at all. I am not sure how I got compared to such an angry user. But I hope I cleared up everything in this painfully long request that took me nearly 2 hours to do. I would like to continue my learning of wikipedia edit tools, so that I can make pages better, like User Red Phoenix above. When you go on his page, he has numerous accomplishments listed on the right side. I would like something like that. I already made the first step by helping him out and learning the templates. I would definitely like to see what I can do, I have valuable references as well, so I know that I could be a big help with fixing up some of the broken game pages, and removing text without sources, and making it into a featured article.
CONCLUSION: I believe I have touched on everything I was accused of that was told to me. So If I am missing something and you don't tell me what it is, it's not in this request. But I tried my best the last 2 hours and 55 minutes to find everything I could to prove I have nothing to do with this "Jak" user, and I hope the next admin who checks this page read what I put in because It took me a very long time. I Hope this request is approved, because I would like to see what I learned from using wikipedias tools and other users, such as red Phoenix above, to improve articles. But, I can't do this without being unblocked. I believe I have made a thorough and convincing (and long) request that will show I am a valuable contributor to wikipedia.
John Mayor ERS (
talk) 20:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
John Mayor ERS (
talk)
20:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Pretty blatant and obvious socking and general time-wasting going on here. Decline, and I would revoke talk page access myself if it weren't already done. only ( talk) 13:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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And, A mistake was made. Also you are completely wrong, even the template for the unblock says I need to prove my case. Have you read the guidelines for appealing a block? Infact, when did you even get in this conversation? You're not an admin and you are only causing me more problems. Here is a quote of the guidelines for you anyway: " Y ou, as a blocked editor, are responsible for convincing administrators- that the block is in fact not necessary to prevent damage or disruption (i.e., that the block violates our blocking policy)- or- that the block is no longer necessary because you understand what you are blocked for, you will not do it again, and you will make productive contributions instead " and here's another one " In complicated situations, the reviewing administrator may not want to spend a long time reading your whole talk page and all of your contributions. Information and evidence not in your unblock request may not be read. " and guess what? I put it all in this request. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 21:27, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Don't listen to Indrian ( talk) admins. he is trying trick you to make you think I was attacking the last few admins, when I was simply taking what was accused of me and defending myself. Which is also all I have to defend myself with, and defending my self is part of the Wikipedia Guidelines. Here is a quote:"Address the blocking administrator's concerns about your conduct (the reason given for your block)" John Mayor ERS ( talk) 21:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
You also did not read the guidelines. Me putting everything in the request is recommended by the wikipedia guidelines for appealing blocks. Quoting exact words: " In complicated situations, the reviewing administrator may not want to spend a long time reading your whole talk page and all of your contributions. Information and evidence not in your unblock request may not be read." and it IS in my unblock request. Another one: " Address the blocking administrator's concerns about your conduct (the reason given for your block)" which I also did. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 21:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
You don't seem to know what a rant is. What I have above are links by category defending myself, which is in the guidelines I am doubting you read. You seem to think that admins will actually believe the questionable statements coming out of your keyboard. A rant would be what Serge did just a bit above, basically claiming that "admins are volunteers" and "who do you think you are" and "you are irate" that is a rant. You aren't an admin, so if you will be continuing to be a problem instead of just putting in your thoughts about this, I will be removing your comments off my talk page. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 22:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Also I did see your comment that was removed Indrian ( talk), first of all , you may want to familiarize with the whole page under the Guidelines for appealing blocks, and see that, as I quoted and linked above, followed the guideline accurately. You are saying basically that what I am reading on the page is wrong. Which make no sense. I think it's obvious at this point you guys keep coming on here as a distraction and for some reason I keep falling for it, but from now on, I'll probably just remove any more distracting attempts, or only respond when there is an actual point made. If O keep responding to the obvious bait this will could be an issue for my potential unblocking. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 22:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Indrian ( talk) Are you really going to sit here and lie by claiming I am making rants and personal attacks? I think it would be best if you stop posting. Because despite what Ohnojamie, said, you are not an admin, and I can remove your comments as that is my right according to the guidelines. I personally don't feel like dealing with you any longer since now you are adding more text that is distracting then actually pointing out anything. What Serge did above is a rant, quote:" You're not anyone's boss they need to report to. You're not a friend they'd feel obligated to help out. You're just a random, irate person on the internet. How do you espect to hold people's attention or keep them motivated to read through all that? ". Nothing I have done qualifies. In fact, an example of a personal attack, is also what Serge did above, quote, " You're just a random, irate person on the internet ". If you are going to sit here accusing me of things I have not done, you aren't doing yourself any favors. I also believe that admins will actually read the whole conversations at this point, or at least the request page, so I don't think your distractions will work. You've already intentionally misquoted me a few times abovea and twisted words, if it hasn't worked now I have no idea why you are still trying. EDIT: Also a kind friendly warning, you are already beyond breaking the 3RR rule in terms of doing any more edits on this talk page, especially since you're conducting vandalism via making up claims of personal attacks and rants. Please stop. I have done nothing to you and don't appreciate what you are doing. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 00:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
So accidental removals from editing on top of each other (I have not actually removed a post yet) somehow equals your made up claims of personal attacks and rants? Indrian ( talk), Your whole response here is a rant, complete with quick replies, errors, and desperate attempts to distract admins. I have nothing more to say to you, every thing you just said is a lie and I am not messing with you anymore because I am not messing up my chance to get unblocked. People who read are going to notice that you just made up 2 things before, Personal attacks (where?), and ranting (which is what you have been doing) and now a third, threats (where?), do you know what a threat is? I am not going to argue with you just because you are acting like an 8 year old child by continuing to yammer the same thing over and over again to attract attention. No matter what you post I will not be responding to. You have issues, and you may want to work on them without getting all emotional on my talk page. Your random appearance in this talk page not long ago, along with your recent lies is totally strange and anyone would take notice and ask "why did he randomly come out the blue?". What's next? Your going to edit your talk page then lie and say I sent you a death message? What is your problem dude? I don't know what it is but you will not be posting on this talk page unless you are an admin, as I am allowed to do according to the guidelines. Especially since you are now indisputably committing vandalism. EDIT: Now this one could almost call a rant, but I am responding to a user who vandalizes so this shouldn't count. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 00:47, 1 March 2014 (UTC) OhNoitsJamie
Indrians edits are not vandalism. You should probably brush up on your vocab. Just because you don't like or agree with it, doesn't mean its vandalism. You are wrong in your interpretation. Sergecross73 msg me 01:39, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Will put in a few of this to make page more organized. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 21:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Will put in a few of this to make page more organized. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 21:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Will put in a few of this to make page more organized. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 21:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Sega Saturn shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. — C.Fred ( talk) 02:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi John Mayor ERS! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. |
For your attention. TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 22:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Unblock template
Actually my block may or may not be more related to that Jakandsig investigation according to my notifications. Considering the amount of names on that page that are confirmed, I see why wiki automatically blocks web host providers. Maybe it just took awhile for it to notice mine. Hopefully I can get mine on the approved list. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 20:31, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
The Ip is 91.103.216.0/24, or 91.103.216.201 (I am getting different numbers here and on another site) JamesBWatson" JamesBWatson". John Mayor ERS ( talk) 21:15, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
What's the news " JamesBWatson" ( talk)? John Mayor ERS ( talk) 15:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Please rather than continually reverting other editors, please discuss on the talk page, find consensus, and then take action. Please follow WP:BRD. (I'm referring to your edits at Sega Saturn.) Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 16:53, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, uh, there is a talk page in the Saturn page. Please stop by. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 17:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I think it would be best if you realize that reverting 2 times is not a problem. Also what does a small one sentence edit in the Playstation 4 article have to do with reverting large amounts of information? John Mayor ERS ( talk) 17:05, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Not sure where you are getting 5 from, but after the first few I made a talk page section and reached a consensus. Not to mention those older edits were days ago. BTW, Did you check the talk page or did you assume that I didn't go there? I mean after that last situation it is understandable to be cautious, but it's been a week since then. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 17:21, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I was not blocked, I had an issue accessing wikipedia because of a automatic Web Host block on one device. In fact, right now I am not even using that device, but from the looks of the edit on this page, the block may have finally been removed. You also seem to be a bit jumpy looking at your contribs, so I think I am going to wait for you to settle a bit before I do anything else. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 17:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi, John. I've got the Sega Saturn page watch listed, and as you've seen from the talk page, I'm looking at a restructure. It was, honestly, a page I've been wanting to fix up for a while but have had other projects I'm getting done first. I don't mind the info strip going on, and I don't particularly want to get in between whatever's going on between you and Mr. Gonna and TheTimesAreAChanging, but would you be willing to do me a favor? I can see in the last diff where info was changed that some sources were removed as well, GameFAQs I have no problem with being purged, but would you be willing to save the rest and post them on the talk page for review? I would be particularly interested in the application of the Business Wire based sources, but any other possible reliable sources would also be worth keeping in case valuable and reliable information can be salvaged. Whenever I approach an article rewrite, I tend to try and use anything reliable that may be left behind, as it saves work and may provide something that would otherwise be missing. Thank you, Red Phoenix let's talk... 19:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Yeah ok. Sending it over now. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 22:54, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Red Phoenix let's talk... looks like things are going well. Surprised no one minds yet. Looking good. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 15:25, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Speaking of Sega articles, yo User:Indrian did you find that Colecovision-Master System article yet? John Mayor ERS ( talk) 20:05, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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John Mayor ERS ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
A bit confused, but apparently " JamesBWatson" ( talk) blocked this account? Although I though that in the above section we kind of already went over this " JamesBWatson" ( talk)? I am actually not sure what to say. Did you just block my account because I was on the previous list? I mean it doesn't make sense to me unless you think I have been disruptive. Butttttt I don't believe that has happened or anything. Last I was on I was learning about talk pages more, in fact, I was in the middle of helping Red Phoenix on his talk page with an article he was going to fix. In fact, he taught me the layout necessary for improving articles. I was actually about to improve my first article as well instead of minor edits, with his help. Check out the conversation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Red_Phoenix I am not sure why I was blocked all of a sudden out the blue right now. I though that other SP issue was over by now. (Also there seems to be an issue with my paragraphs being jumbled in preview mode, not sure how it will turn out when I submit this.) John Mayor ERS ( talk) 15:16, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Recently created account, starts edit-warring on the same articles by recently blocked socks; same argumentative wikilawyering. I doesn't quack much louder than this. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Sergecross73 msg me, I am afraid that your insistence of me constantly reverting and other odd claims are untrue and very confusing. I have barely posted in any articles in terms of editing. I only had one chance of almost getting into an edit war, and that was above at the top of the page. We later fixed that in the talk page DAYS ago. That was the Sega Saturn page, where another user is currently right now, editing it, stripping it the same as I did, from what I did, and fixing it up. I even assisted him, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Red_Phoenix
I have only attempted to make impact-full changes to an article, instead of remove information that has no source, a grand total of 2 times out of a grand total of about 7 articles edited, not including talk pages: the Playstation 4 article and the Nintendo Entertainment System article, and both of those were around one sentence, and both were solved in the talk page. Otherwise, every other edit I have made has just been removing text without source or tagging with CN's. So your claims of me changing articles or reverting etc, are confusing and it does not make any sense to me. I have no idea what you are looking at or what you are comparing. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 17:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Sergecross73 msg me, I have no idea what your intentions are at this point. After C.freds edit, I went with the consensus in the Sega Saturn talk page. You are now dodging what I mentioned above. The Consensus on the talk page was before C.freds edit, and originally it was going to stay with my revised edit but I REVERTED my edit back to make it easier for those who may come by with sources for the information I deleted. I wanted to wait around a day to see if anybody did before I went with my original edit. Seems you missed it, here it is for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sega_Saturn&diff=596433090&oldid=596432543 and in the talk page this is even clearer. Oh and yes, you DID not see the talk page, or at the very least, The whole talk page, because the other user, at the time before C.freds edit, only had THIS STATEMENT on the talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Sega_Saturn&diff=596432851&oldid=596432818 and the very next edit from another user was Red Phoenix.
Again, a grand total of 7 articles I have been apart of that are not talk pages, 2, count them, 2 I actually tried to change words in an impact-full way on the page instead of basic removal of info without sources to sustain it, or tagging with citation needed. Both were solved in the talk page, one of which, according to the conversation we had above, you did not see the talk page because you assumed I didn't go there because again, you are jumpy and were quick to assume since the very first time you saw my account, (EDIT: Or from what you are saying, you DID see the talk page, but then why would you tell me to go to the talk page then? Why did you miss the links I posted above in this response?) which was understandable when I first joined but is completely confusing now. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 17:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Sergecross73 msg meI like how you leave with a vague statement without identifying which article you are talking about and dodging all the points I made above. I like that same source dodge to, If it was the same source I would have been confirmed the first time surely not? Actually, it's clear you are mentioning the Playstation 4 page, since you mentioned "your comment" which would mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=PlayStation_4&diff=597244190&oldid=597243415 which has NOTHING you just said and actually proves my above claim to be correct. I knew there was a reason you took so long to reply back, you are just going to ignore everything I said above aren't you? Is this because you didn't look carefully? I don't want to say that you are a well............................. I am just saying that you clearly are dodging all the points above intentionally. Ohhh boyyyy, now I have to wait longer. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 19:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh boy.
Sergecross73 msg me, you are now bordering on making things up. Every time you're proven wrong, you pretend you are not, and continue to pretend problems exist where they don't. I have no idea what you are trying to do, every concern you have had has been proven wrong by actual links leading to the opposite, you keep backpedaling every other post. Including posts by YOU YOURSELF. You already backpedaled your constant reverts and changes claim. What more do I have to show to you that your points are wrong? John Mayor ERS ( talk) 19:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
You are incorrect random anonymous user 80.168.237.218 ( talk). Look at your 5th link and look at the dates at the top. Seems that the difference between them was about 4 DAYS. You also need to realize that the 4th edit is VERY relevant. Because your 4th link was my THIRD Revert, and that's when I was given the above warning at the top of the page. The 4th edit was me "reverting" my own edit (despite the consensus) and that is considered an exemption in the 3RR guide. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 22:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Or maybe you are missing the fact that his number 5 reasons was well, 4 DAYS later, and the one before that was well, CONSENSUS. Not to mention his 5th edit was me reverting someone who reverted my last edit just because he wanted to so uhh... hmm.... John Mayor ERS ( talk) 17:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
John Mayor ERS ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
EDIT:Admins, See the defense notes section below. I am making another request because of OhNoitsJamie denying my previous one. It's hard to defend myself when nothing is shown and you leave a vague response, but from what I can pick up, the reason for the denial by OhNoitsJamie is completely untrue. First of all "recently created" account is not an argument, if I am not mistaken (I could be wrong) most of the users on that investigations list were recently created. It is most likely THE reason why Sergecross73 msg me was jumpy when I first joined. As for edit-warring, as you can clearly see that NEVER happened, whether you look at the links I posted in the above conversation or if you look and see I only have one WARNING for it a the top of this talk page. This also applies to edit-warring the "same" articles, the "same" being incredibly vague. If you mean just being in the same articles, I can easily go to the "contribs" on every one in that investigations list, doing so proves this is also untrue and does not exist. He showed nothing to back-up his points, he just said it out the blue and denied my request. None of what he said actually happened or exists. None of it. On that note, what is "wikilawyering" is that defending myself? You mean that action this very template I am using is telling me to do? Why did you just drop a sentence with nothing to show for what your wrote and leave? No person could pick where to start from that alone to defend their self, I could only make out 2 areas you are accusing me of, Edit-warring and same articles, which both never happened. In fact, I have only been in about 7 articles outside of talk pages the whole time, so it's easy for me to check on that. I am still not sure why recently created account is an actual reason as well. Making the "quack" statement invalid. Too many unanswered questions with the above denial, and I am sure someone else will agree since that denial was as invisible as a ghost.
Decline reason:
Lots of arguments, lots of false claims (e.g. that you haven't edit-wared). Still not believable. Your requests and related discussions are quite lengthy so I have to warn you that if your next unblock request will not be concise and up-to-the-point, you will lose your privilege to edit this page. Max Semenik ( talk) 09:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Wow, that users block requests are completely unrelated. I noticed you failed to see my "linked proof" showing every single thing you wrote in the last denial was completely wrong? Even before you posted that comment? What about the whole dropping one sentence and leaving so I barely have anything to defend myself with? What about this comment I am responding to now? Your attempt at comparing me to kombat seems rushed in anger. Is your only argument that he (eventually) made a new section for unblock requests? Did you not notice I separated the first one and he did not? This is what you call proof? I don't understand why you came here if you have anger problems with the jak user. OhNoitsJamie Talk I notice you have a very bad attitude from both this and your denial comment. Not sure what your deal is buddy, but I think you got the wrong guy to be mad at. I have this strange feeling this rage is the reason you denied my request with such a ghost answer. However, I don't have anything to do with why you are angry and I did nothing wrong. I have proven that so many times now it's gotten obvious. Or at least I hope it is because it seems like it. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 23:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Your above comments are written in a way an angry user would write it. Especially the short comment you left in the last denial leaving me little to defend myself with which is what I am supposed to do. Despite the links I have showing the exact opposite of what you were saying before, and the fact you apparently believe there was a non-existent edit war. Then there's the equally questionable claim of "same articles" which also does not exist. You also seem to be angry in the very first comment under this request: "The quacking is deafening. Sooner or later you'll figure out that we're just going to reblock you every time you create a new account and return to your old habits. Stop wasting your time." that is angry writing, and untrue. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 23:46, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
IF I was that user. Which is not true. You've already done a good job giving me little to work with to defend myself. But despite this I have linked proof in the multiple conversations in this talk page that proved everything you (and Serge) said so far wrong. Sadly, that's all I have but I believe it's enough for the average admin who is a bit less angry to look through and see I have nothing to do with this, and that your denial is vague and does not make any sense. Unless you want to clarify now, that would help. Edit: Look at this, User Smuckola just now thanked me for my contribution in the Nintendo Entertainment System article. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 00:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Sergecross73 msg me your oddly sudden post makes it seem like that thanked comment is worrying you or something. Also massive what? Are you talking about that area above where you backpedaled and dodged points, then posted your concerns, and I posted links leading to the exact opposite of your concerns? There are no concerns (that you introduced) left to even talk about. You backed off your own "constant" claims, there was no edit war (that anonymous account who agreed with you posted the same 4 day difference in between edits) and you also seemed to forget that you told me to rework a PS4 edit and have continued to pretend that never happened. Please provide any additional concerns you have so I can go over it and make my defense, and this decision to unblock me, easier. I would appreciate it. EDIT: Also where are these disruptive edits, or are the only ones you are talking about the ones that were cut in half above and don't exist in the way you present them? (example: what edit war?) John Mayor ERS ( talk) 00:27, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I am not trolling anyone, you said last time was your last response and you come in here again not explaining anything and ONLY to address the fact I mentioned that someone thanked me for my contribution. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 01:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
|decline=Lots of arguments, lots of false claims (e.g. that you haven't edit-wared). Still not believable. Your requests and related discussions are quite lengthy so I have to warn you that if your next unblock request will not be concise and up-to-the-point, you will lose your privilege to edit this page. Max Semenik ( talk) 09:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC) }}
IF I was that user. Which is not true. You've already done a good job giving me little to work with to defend myself. But despite this I have linked proof in the multiple conversations in this talk page that proved everything you (and Serge) said so far wrong. Sadly, that's all I have but I believe it's enough for the average admin who is a bit less angry to look through and see I have nothing to do with this, and that your denial is vague and does not make any sense. Unless you want to clarify now, that would help. Edit: Look at this, User Smuckola just now thanked me for my contribution in the Nintendo Entertainment System article. John Mayor ERS ( talk) 00:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
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