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Hi Ian,
I can restore it, but in the state it was in when I deleted it 2 years ago, it wouldn't pass a deletion discussion. Considering the scrutiny Biographies of Living Persons are under, it would be unwise to restore it in this state (it is entirely unreferenced). Could you please find some references about Mr Carder's work? Alternatively, I can offer to restore the page in your user space so you can work on it before we move it back in the Encyclopedia. Cheers! -- Luk talk 13:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
This is the full version of a conversation which took place on User:Bwilkins' talkpage. The conversation has been subsequently modified on BWilkins talkpage and this is the full version as can be verified here.
Please check the article history before making speedy deletion requests - speedy deletion has already been requested and denied. Thanks. (Also, I have to say, notability is very clear in the article) IainUK ( talk) 09:48, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
If you want to put it up for deletion discussion that's fine - due to this man's frequent media activities, various prime-time national TV appearances, and band membership, there is no doubt he is a notable candidate for inclusion in Wikipedia and I struggle to understand why you would want to delete the article. IainUK ( talk) 10:01, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Please be aware that all of my contributions are available here in the exact way that I said them. In this edit you claim that I said one thing, when I quite clearly did not state that, as can be seen from my contributions. The first time you "put words in my mouth" was on a validly-filed AfD, and you were asked not to. I should not have to ask further. You're very welcome to properly defend yourself, but making stuff up certainly does not help.
Also be aware that all conversations on my talkpage are archived regularly. Even if I were to "remove" something, it will forever exist on Wikipedia. If you wait long enough, the unfortunate conversation you unfortunately escalated on my talkpage will be archived. I will not perform or permit modifications to it, as your statements were never altered in any way, nor are there currently any violations of WP:NPA on it, as has been confirmed by others.
I will also (for the umpteenth time) reiterate: according to Wikipedia policy, any biography of a living person must contain valid reliable sources at the time of creation, or it must be deleted. That, and only that is the reason it was submitted for WP:AFD. I do not desire to "have my way", I merely enforce policy. When I ask you to read a policy, I do expect you to do so before replying. It is frustrating as hell when you escalate situations merely because you do not read them, and then react improperly.
It is unfortunate that you failed to follow simple steps, simple requests, and did not read simple policies. You certainly could have avoided all of the attention you have received.
Know this: I am not childish, nor do I hold grudges. In fact, I cannot hold a grudge against someone who's only "sins" were to not read thing, and then fail to do what you had been asked, which was to stay off my talkpage and keep deletion discussions in one place where they belong.
I expect that you have actually taken the time now to read and understand the policies - as such, you will have learned much. The frustration remains that I politely and clearly led you towards how to work with the Afd - you seem to have taken the deletion discussion personally against me - again, all I do is uphold policy and the policy is clear, as stated above. Once you look back, you will recognize that I have actually done nothing that is against policy, nor against the community, nor against you.
If you choose to edit as per policy, act collegially, do not attempt to take ownership of articles, and most importantly do not take things personally, then I am certain you will have success on Wikipedia. That said, if you choose instead to take a different route and be the exact opposite, then things will not go as smoothly.
I will paraphrase my first paragraph due to its importance: don't make shit up. I will also paraphrase my last paragraph: I sincerely wish you the best on Wikipedia.
( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I am new to Wikipedia. I am a "mature" person (something like three decades of professional writing and editing for newspapers, private publishers and non-profits), but I am pretty clueless about Wikipedia. How did you "find" me working on a small site? I am rather thrilled at being "found" but just wondering how it works. Oh, you asked me to be polite... Yes, of course! Moorebridges ( talk) 23:04, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a two-month trial scheduled to end 15 August 2010.
Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under pending changes. Pending changes is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at Special:OldReviewedPages.
For the guideline on reviewing, see Wikipedia:Reviewing. Being granted reviewer rights doesn't change how you can edit articles even with pending changes. The general help page on pending changes can be found here, and the general policy for the trial can be found here.
If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. - FASTILY (TALK) 00:55, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
It's clear from the discussion that you have some strong feelings about what the Ugg boots article should contain and to that extent, I agree with you. Why don't you help out with the Ugg boots article? Phoenix and Winslow ( talk) 09:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob ( talk) 23:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Please do not move pages by cutting-and-pasting in the future; use the built-in "move" tab instead. Cut-and-paste moves mess up attribution history, thus violating Wikipedia's copyright license. When an existing page blocks a move, use {{ db-move}} or WP:Requested moves, as appropriate. -- Cybercobra (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2011 (UTC)