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Your decision on Sanders' religion is simply wrong, and you've overridden the majority user view in the RfC. This isn't really very complicated: Sanders is Jewish, but he's never expressed any belief in the Jewish religion. There are many people who are culturally Jewish who would be offended if they were labeled Religion=Jewish. In this case, you're labeling someone who is likely agnostic or atheist as a religious person. This is an issue of BLP and an issue of editing consensus. You should retract your decision and allow the majority editor opinion to stand. - Thucydides411 ( talk) 23:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Thucydides411, I understand your frustration and I also disagree with the close decision, but I think your anger at Jethro is misplaced. He deserves appreciation for tackling that RfC to begin with, likely knowing at the outset that he would have to contend with upset editors regardless of how he closed it. Let's stick with arguments based on reliable sources and Wikipedia guidelines, and see if he can be convinced to reconsider his position. He's willing to engage in discussion now, but that willingness will evaporate quickly if we start casting aspersions or accusations of bad faith.
Jethro, a question for you: since we lack a clear self-identification by Sanders in direct speech where he says he is religiously Jewish or that his faith is Judaism, if we can find a debate clip wherein a questioner mentions the word 'Jewish' somewhere in the preamble, and Sanders mentions that faith is "a guiding principle in my life" in his lengthy response, can we synthesize that into a conclusion that Sanders practices Judaism (or that his Religion = Jewish [ sic])? And if so, would there be a conflict with adding to the article, as an assertion of fact in Wikipedia's voice, something close to (suitably paraphrased to avoid copyvio):
Yes/No to the synthesis, and Yes/No to the contradictory content, and why do you feel that way? Regards, Xenophrenic ( talk) 01:53, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
For the record Although I disagree with I JethroBT's decision, it was clearly made in good faith and with a lot of thought behind it. I cringed when i read the words "you're clearly setting yourself above them too" and "You're acting in a manner which damages the community". I strongly dispute those claims, and I would ask for more civility and no further personal attacks. Please stick to discussing what is in the sources and what the policies require. In other words, more light and less heat, please. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 22:40, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Re: User:Thucydides411's claim that "Your decision on Sanders' religion is simply wrong, and you've overridden the majority user view in the RfC.": I'm not going address the first part of that statement, which is what the whole dispute has been about and about which plenty has been written, but the second part of that statement is simply empirically false. The RfC survey had 29 support votes and 27 oppose votes, so the majority user view in the RfC was for inclusion, and so User:I JethroBT agreed with and did not override the majority view in the RfC. — Lowellian ( reply) 09:56, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Jethro - did the File:WikiProject_Accuracy_logo.png pass the acid test? After a month of no activity, there is suddenly a great deal of activity at the project page and I'm just trying to cover all the bases. Thank you in advance. Atsme 📞 📧 15:40, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Ugh. Just FYI. Safehaven86 ( talk) 22:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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For closing an RFC that would result in people complaining no matter how you close it, I award you the You can't please everyone barnstar. Your work in difficult areas is appreciated. HighInBC 16:25, 23 March 2016 (UTC) |
I JethroBT, when it comes time for this RfC regarding WP:Spoiler to close, will you close it? It's a complicated discussion, and this is a case where I'd be more comfortable with a very good closer such as yourself handling it. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 02:11, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Update: The RfC tag recently expired. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 06:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
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I JethroBT how are you? I heard that you are host in teahouse and you adopt a user. Can you adopt me? I am new on this wiki promise to make wikipedia better. For that i need to study what is vandualism and how to revert them? .I want you to be my teacher on this site.Please can you do for me?I promise you that i will do whatever want me to do._ Bivek bhattarai ( talk) 14:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Do you have any thoughts of a location for a WP:WIKNIC this year?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:02, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
I hope you're watching this. The two have suddenly started editing Korean influence on Japanese culture again the same day, including adding something that was hotly disputed on the talk page. Then immediately following the comment you made on TH1980's talk page—"topics dealing with influences between countries are complex because sources claims sometimes conflict. In these cases, due weight is important to think about"—CurtisNaito has responded saying that the article "could be nominated for good article status" "just by adding in all the citations"—meaning the disputed citations "which were already part of previous versions of the article". Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:58, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
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Issue 17, April-May 2016
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How was Wikimania? Have you heard about NYC's Afro-Latino engagement? Can we do something similar?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Jethro please see Abu Esrar , my newly created page. senthoora poove —Preceding undated comment added 06:01, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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Issue 18, June–July 2016
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See if the use cases I put on there are correct. — xaosflux Talk 23:21, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
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Issue 19, September–October 2016
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Good morning. I hope you've been doing well since our last Chicago meetup. I'm weighing a decision which you might be able to offer some advice on.
An admin recently suggested that I run for adminship. This is something I've never pursued, for a couple of reasons. The advantages of having more tools available are clear, but I worry about having obligations imposed which would get in the way of my usual free-spirited gnomin', and possibly take the fun out of things for me. The RfA process is also a bit intimidating. In your experience with the title,
Thanks. Nick Number ( talk) 15:59, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Do you feel like a significant amount of your time is taken up by issues you wouldn't have been inclined to work on before becoming an admin?
Are you often compelled to intervene in disputes which you would not have participated in before?
What did you find most difficult about the RfA process? Looking at the page, I guess you didn't encounter much opposition, but some people do.
Just how much dexterity is required for the secret handshake?
Ok, thanks. I really appreciate the input from someone who's been through the process. I am still weighing the decision. I'll try to avoid too much boomeranging in the meantime. Nick Number ( talk) 15:36, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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Please restore the protection on the Bowe Bergdahl talk page. As soon as the protection expired the IP returned to repeat the ranting. Thanks. – S. Rich ( talk) 04:26, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
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