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I hope I'm not coming across as a blundering philistine here! I'd hope that the fact I don't know much about the game, but have some interest in it, would actually be helpful here, because (like the MMO-or-not thing) I'm not going to be writing anything that seems "obvious" to me as a player, but which hasn't been clearly stated by Braben or the press coverage. By coming at it cold and working from published sources, this should help to build up an accurate summary of how Dangerous has been presented so far. It looks like a great game and deserves a solid article, and I'd like to help to build that. -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:49, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
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In the absence of an article about the Elite series, I think the Elite (video game) link is enough. We aren't helping the reader much by saying "for related information, why not see the Elite article? No? How about Elite II? Okay, not Elite II. I tell you what would be interesting to read now, though - the article on Elite III..." - give them the most useful one, don't make them guess. — McGeddon 20:07, 23 June 2014 — continues after insertion below
Sequels seem excessive detail for the WP:LEADPARAGRAPH. The sequels may well be unjustly overlooked, but they aren't among the most important things about the 1984 game. If anything, we should be moving the big, important claims about its innovation and influence nearer to the top. — McGeddon 20:07, 23 June 2014 — continues after insertion below
Forum links are flatly against WP:ELNO (#10: "chat or discussion forums/groups"). I didn't notice the Kerbal subreddit link because I was only looking at the see-also section. -- McGeddon ( talk) 20:07, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for catching wherever I might have "incorrectly stated that Elite: Dangerous was already release" - I'm thinking of it as being in private beta, and may have summarised that badly. (Maybe the beta status should be more prominent in the Elite: Dangerous lead section?) -- McGeddon ( talk) 07:26, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2014 June 29#Frontier: First Encounters. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 16:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Just a heads up that the minor edit flag is for the genuinely small stuff: "typographical corrections, formatting and presentational changes, and rearrangements of text without modification of its content". Some editors choose to ignore minor edits when reviewing recent changes, so you should always leave the box unticked if you're making any kind of change to the content. -- McGeddon ( talk) 13:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Misread your edit, I thought you were saying "in the style of Frontier" when you were actually saying "in the style of games like Elite, but when you click the wikilink for Elite you'll get the Frontier article". "Correcting" the source material like that is WP:OR, even when it's as subtle as a redirected link - we should assume that when the dev said Elite, he meant Elite. -- McGeddon ( talk) 13:26, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
But is that your own personal take on the game, or is it how developers and reviewers are talking about it? Wikipedia always goes with the latter, even if we personally think that they're phrasing it badly. What we can do is make sure that the article describes the premium beta in a way that makes it clear to the reader what the deal is - we should just be careful to stick to reliable sources. -- McGeddon ( talk) 16:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Disagreement is fine, but can you try to avoid doing flat reverts whenever you disagree with part of an edit? I assume you don't actually have an objection to quoting Braben's "thought of doing something along those lines" in the Development section, but you took out the whole thing when restoring your preferred lede. -- McGeddon ( talk) 10:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Could you explain this on the talk thread I started yesterday? "I haven't yet seen any third-person gameplay and combat will be on foot, so I think this implies it's going to be a first-person shooter" sounds like WP:SYNTHESIS to me. -- McGeddon ( talk) 12:11, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
I'd say fan videos were at worst WP:USERGENERATED (they can't be trusted not to be misrepresenting the game, even unintentionally) and at best WP:PRIMARY (as even a crystal clear piece of gameplay footage from Braben himself would be a primary source). If a mechanic can't be sourced to any of the current third-party reviews and previews, WP:V tells us that it's not (yet) an appropriate detail for a Wikipedia article. -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Look at the diff, I'm just removing excessive references and shortening the (accidentally?) repetitive "other interactions with other players and NPCs inside ships, combat and other interactions with other players and NPCs in the internal areas of space stations" to "other interactions with other players and NPCs inside ships and the internal areas of space stations". Worst I can see is that I accidentally lost the single word "combat" there. By all means add the word "combat" back, but I don't understand what "crucial information" you think has been lost here. -- McGeddon ( talk) 16:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
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The article had 62 references before I cleaned it up and 61 after, and the IGN reference is still there (it looks like the cleanup bot combined some duplicates). Per WP:LEADCITE there's hardly ever any need to use citation footnotes in the lead, when the same statements are being sourced in the body of the article.
If you think I've summarised the game badly then by all means move that forward by editing it, but it doesn't help the article to revert to something as unreadably piecemeal as "based on the real Milky Way,[13][15][16][17] that's as scientifically accurate as possible[13][15][17][18][19][20][21] in a spaceship, and the gameplay is open-ended". -- McGeddon ( talk) 14:07, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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Hey,
I have created a Elite: Dangerous Userbox category and used the Elite: Dangerous Logo that you have created/used for the Elite: Dangerous article for Wikipedia, I hope this is ok. D Eaketts ( talk) 12:55, 17 April 2016 (UTC)