Hi, you recently removed an image from the Colin MacIntyre article. I uploaded the image and I'm fairly sure I added a tag, source and fair use rationale. I didn't receive any notice that it was being deleted. Can you reinstate it please. I'll add the necessary rationale etc if it wasn't there already. Cheers. Stu ’Bout ye! 08:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello. Could you tell me why the image was removed from Postwar Sherman Tanks? I couldn't tell from the comment. Thank you. Wikist 22:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you recently removed an image I had placed on the article Miri Regev. I believe that I added to the image's description that I was using the image in fair use under the terms of the site, in addition to the fact that it was an official publicity photo from the IDF. If you check most other IDF images from the IDF site (random Ex: [1], [2], [3]) you will find that they are all claiming fair use because unlike the hebrew wiki, we do not yet have IDF specific fair use tags (Ex of Hebrew fair use tag [4]). I would appreciate if the image was reinstated. Thanks, Joshdboz 00:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Just for the record, to make sure there was no problem with where the fair use was coming from, I had pasted Believed to be "fair use" as "reasonable quoting" under the Terms of Use in the Miri Regev image after receiving a copywrite warning. Joshdboz 09:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I will get permission from the website (www.bosnjaci.net) as soon as possible. Just give me two days. Secondly, who is disputing it, is it just you or is there a debate on this dealing a number of users.
Thanks, Kseferovic 01:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng, thanks for replacing Image:British_Royal_Family.jpg on my userbox page. I avoid fair use pictures in the userspace, but I missed that one. Thanks again. Blarneytherinosaur 04:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
This image was personally taken by me. But I forgot to mention it in the summary. I gave the name of photographer (Kamran Ali) but forgot to declare myself as Kamran Ali. Please remove the "being considered for deletion" notice. Thanks. User:Mahak_library 1:52, 23 June 2006 (GMT)
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.
Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, — Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Heh...yeah a couple days after doing all that I kinda found that out. I will remeber next time though! Thunderbrand 16:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng,
Sorry to bother you, but I've updated the captions on the edits to make it perfectly clear which version you support. Please update your vote and state which version you support. Please use the naming located under the main caption in bold, large text. Thanks, --
Fir0002
09:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
A user asked me the following:
I wonder if it is allowed to define a wikipedia user's group as a category of users ; my point is to relate people who share something in common, such as the follow-up of philosophic lectures.
Yours,-- Lilliputian 08:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Cheers,-- Lilliputian 14:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I personally cannot help them as I don't have a clue about the policy on this. Any assistance you can provide would be appreciated. — Kf4bdy talk contribs
Te base for this map is taken from [5], but I made some revisions, added newly built roads, etc, because it was an obsolete mape, not up to date. So what is the license for a modified map?!
Regarding your decision to keep the image, I believe that your rationale for fair use is incorrect. WP:FAIR#Counterexamples says that it is not permissible to use "A photo from a press agency (e.g. Reuters, AP), not so famous as to be iconic, to illustrate an article on the subject of the photo." You said, "This qualifies as fair use in Deus Caritas Est. In this case, it is NOT being used simply to show the Pope." Even if the photo is being used not just to show the pope himself, but, rather, is being used to show him signing this document, the image is still being used to illustrate the subject of the photo. The subject, in this case, is document itself or the act of signing the document, but whatever you want to define the subject to be, the photo is being used to illustrate that subject. In any case, WP:FAIR#Counterexamples #5 would seem to apply.
I have requested a review of this closure on deletion review. Since you closed the deletion discussion, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. BigDT 00:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello--
In the winter it seems you deleted the entry for Thunderegg (rock and roll band). I'm a fan of the group and thought I should forward you the link to their write-up in the Trouser Press ( http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=thunderegg) in case you doubted the group's "legitimacy."
This year Thunderegg put out a project I haven't heard of anyone else ever doing, reason enough to be included in Wikipedia, in my opinion. It's a CD-ROM w/more than 200 songs and a thick lyric book. It's called "Open Book, The Collected Thunderegg"...it's nine hours of music in one package! What other totally indie artist has done that?
Anyhow, I think you should reconsider killing the Thunderegg article. It was useful info for the Wikimasses.
Scottross 16:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello Howcheng,
I noticed that you have created POTD subpage for Male' image to appear on main page on July 17. I was wondering if its possible to delay the image to July 26, if there isnt any guideline restricting this change, because the day coincides with the Maldivian independence day. Just thought that'd be nice. Thanks! -- Oblivious 18:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
With respect to
this change, did you mean { background: transparent; }
? According to
W3C specs, { background: none; }
means { background-image: none; }
. Since background-image
isn't allowed in wikicode anyway, and since you named the class .same-bg
, I figure you meant to set the color, not the background image. Or am I mistaken on some point? —
Simetrical (
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contribs)
21:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you deleted this image giving the reason, "The image is not necessary to understanding how the voting system works". While I don't have a problem with the reason you gave, I'd like to ask if you could have a second look at it, as other people have said that this particular image makes the part of the article relevant to it, easier to understand; especially since it's something that hasn't been used before. Thanks. -- JD don't talk| email] 23:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, seeing that you allowed the Purple Frog image because it is very rare, I was hoping to be able to claim fair use on an image of a Gastric-brooding frog, both species are now "extinct" so realistically a new free image is probably not going to appear. There are quite a few images of these frogs on the internet, however none are under a free license, would it be possible to claim fair use on one of these images?-- Tnarg1 2 3 4 5 03:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
On April 24, TripleH1976 asked you to protect the David Westerfield article because he was in an edit war with me. Which you promptly did. And it was HIS version you protected. Did you just blindly comply with his request or did you carry out an investigation? Had you investigated you would have discovered the following:
TripleH1976 is a known VANDAL: if you had looked at his Talk page you would have seen he was accused of vandalism by several different users. You yourself temporarily blocked him in February for violating the three-revert rule. And after you had protected the Westerfield article, he was given a “last warning” for vandalizing the Full House article.
So you protected the version of a known vandal. And what was he doing to the Westerfield article? He was repeatedly removing the content I was adding. In other words, he was vandalizing it. He COULD instead have added POV to the article, or to my individual edits - just the ones he didn’t like. Or he could have reworded my edits to make them (in his opinion) less POV. But he did none of that, he just removed them in their entirety.
Is that the sort of behavior Wikipedia approves? By protecting his version, you were encouraging vandalism.
I didn’t merely reinstate my version - which is what TripleH1976 was repeatedly doing with his version - I always added extra information at the same time.
Shortly before the article was protected, having made all the corrections I wanted to, and not wanting to merely indulge in TripleH1976's behavior, as an alternative method I instead added POV to his version. Someone else, 24.41.57.188, then reinstated my version, after which TripleH1976 reinstated his version WITHOUT the POV. I would argue that that was dishonest - at best, poor etiquette.
And what did my edits consist of? I was primarily correcting ERRORS in the article. And I STATED this in my summaries of my edits. As you would have seen from the History page for that article, had you carried out an investigation. So what TripleH1976 was repeatedly doing was removing corrections and reinstating an ERROR-filled version of the article. And you protected the ERROR-filled version.
I now have NO confidence in the accuracy of Wikipedia articles.
I was also, at the same time, rectifying the BIAS of the article. TripleH1976, whose knowledge of the case is poor and superficial (as you will see if you compare his contributions to the discussion page with mine, and you can even see that from my article edits which he was removing), firmly believes that Westerfield is guilty. In fact, there is much that is disturbing about the case, and I want to provide a BALANCE to the article. For example, evidence pointing away from Westerfield - including unidentified blood on the very bed the victim was abducted from - was ignored. The laboratory gave lack of time as their excuse. But the bottom line is that they were purely looking for evidence to convict him: determining the truth didn’t come into it. In a Death Penalty case that is utterly inexcusable. And TripleH1976 doesn’t want this type of thing pointed out, he dismisses it all as defense spin and my POV - even though I give my sources, many of which are prosecution witnesses, the prosecutor himself, and even the judge (as you will see from the discussion page).
After the article was protected, TripleH1976 and I engaged in a debate in the article’s discussion page. His contributions to that debate have been liberally sprinkled with personal insults and name-calling. That’s not acceptable.
But what concerns me more is that, now that the article has been unprotected (by someone other than yourself), I am going to again attempt to correct the many errors in it. And I suspect that, even though TripleH1976 has conceded in the discussion that I have made good points, in view of how emotional he gets and given his history of vandalism, he is going to again vandalize my attempts to improve the article. 196.15.168.40 04:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip... I was a bit confused because of the "and uploaded after May 4, 2006" thing on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Is there any difference between {{ nrd}} and {{ frn}}? Chaos syndrome 20:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Daniel Imperato has filed with the FEC and it has been validated by sources such as the Palm Beach Post and the Sun Sentinel, major papers in the South Florida area. Since then he has been receiving local and national tv coverage most recently being on ABC News National. I found this on Google:
ABC News: The Note Futures Calendar13, 2006: Daniel Imperato and Webster Brooks announce the creation of the "Independent America" party and their intentions to run on the ticket for the 2008 ... abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=140388 - Similar pages
Whoever thought that he wasn't notable before certainly can't say that now. I think his page should be put back up.
Regarding this edit...
Please remember that punctuation should be outside of quote marks, thus "Maid of Orleans",
and not "Maid of Orleans,"
. Cheers,
violet/riga
(t)
18:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
"I did not 'attempt' to post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. I did post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. All but one of them is still there. I merely waited until [ Rook wave ], [ Phr ] and Louis Blair were not looking and reposted them. I added a new biography yesterday and no I am not going to tell you where it is for fear that they will vandalize it again." - Sam Sloan (samhsloan@gmail.com, NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, 11 Jul 2006 05:23:13 -0700) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en
"My Biography of Dimitrije Bjelica" - Sam Sloan (sloan@ishipress.com, NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:09:34 GMT) http://groups.google.com/group/samsloan/msg/eefc91bb2aeda9d0?hl=en http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrije_Bjelica - Louis Blair (July 19, 2006)
Thanks for the tip Punctured Bicycle 21:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Wow, really? I didn't know that, because I saw it is a "free repository of images", and I thought that didn't have to be useful images. Thanks for telling me that. Cheers! GeorgeMoney ( talk) 09:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I haven't really kept myself informed about the ifd process. Thanks for the tip. I'll make note of it. -- Jtalledo (talk) 11:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, this is regarding your comment on Nichalp's page. Can I request you to move the map as POTD for August 15 as the date is Indian independence day. -- Lost 07:31, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
My tweaking of the captions is a direct response to the discussion now archived at Talk:Main Page/Archive 74#pirate, where people wanted the caption to be more like an actual caption in describing the picture instead of merely just copying a lead from an article. Of course, on the subject of stating the obvious, there is always a fine line between what WP:1SP#State the obvious says ("State facts which may be obvious to you, but are not necessarily obvious to the reader") and what you said ("it sounds a little condescending to me"). I would rather err on the former, especially when many of the photography books that I have seen or own do indicate in their captions when a photo is an aerial view. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, when uploading some images I made several fairly small revisions to the image file (mostly to do with the bounding box) to get the images to work in thumbnail form. This has left a few previous versions hanging around, could you please delete the previous versions of Image:16CygBbOrbit.svg and Image:47UmaOrbits.svg - the current versions are fine (at least until the orbital parameters get updated again :-p) Chaos syndrome 18:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Howcheng. I'm coming here to ask your advice. I recently removed the logos from Template:Danish parliamentary election, 2005 ( talk) because the Wikipedia fair-use policy says that fair-use images should be used in the main article namespace only, and explicitly says they should never be used in templates. However, three different users have reverted my changes, saying that the use of these logos in this template is acceptable. I don't want to do any more unilateral reverting, so I'd like your opinion on the matter. Thank you. — Bkell ( talk) 18:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I thought I would run by you since you handle a lot of (most?) of the image deletions. Can you take a look at Category:Fair use character artwork? Virtually everything in there is either mistagged or copyvio. If it is a tv screenshot of a tv character or a video game screenshot of a video game character, there are other fair use tags for that. But a heckuva lot of the stuff in there is fan art. Fan art is not fair use. That's going to be a nightmare to cleanup, though. Any thoughts? BigDT 02:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you happen to know the variety of tulip in your tulip image? I'm writing the caption for the Picture of the Day and I think that would be helpful. Thanks. howch e ng { chat} 16:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Howard! Would you check up on the licencing of the MotorsTV UK logo, because I am not sure of its licencing and want it validating.
You are completely wasting your time tagging images of Áras an Uachtaráin with a notice asking not non-fairuse images. There are none and will be done.
Áras an Uachtaráin is a restricted access site. The only images that are available are
It is because of all of this that the President of Ireland's press office allows WP to use images from its website. All that message you posted will do is encourage people to use images by the likes of Jacqueline O'Brien that would get WP in court. The most you will find are trespassers' images of the garden front. The main entrance cannot be seen by the public except when they visit there as tourists, when taking photographs is strictly forbidden. (Even when visiting the place as a guest I was not allowed to bring a camera.) So at best your tagging is pointless, at worst it will encourage users to replace images we have been told by President's office we can use, with images that almost certainly we cannot.
Rather than see WP get into trouble for using alternative images I am going to remove your tagging. Please check first with Irish users before presuming that there must be alternative fair use images available. In many cases there by definition will not be. Those tags will just encourage newbies to start searching the internet for images and recreate the mess of illegal image use once again. FearÉIREANN \ (caint) 21:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
For that reason I have proposed the template for deletion. I would however suggest an alternative. Create a graphic, maybe the letters FU in a box (made stylishly), which sits on either the left or right of a caption and which clearly marks the image as fair use. When that box is hit, it goes into the page explaining the rationale, along with an invitation to download an alternative while explaining the rules of fair use. The information would still be there, but not as in your face and enticing as this template here makes it. Users would instantly be able to tell from the FU box that it is a fair use image, and so would be encouraged to search for an alternative. It might achieve the same effect (replacement of images) in a less come, lets download approach on a page where the rationale and the information on what is free and what isn't, is explained. Any thoughts? FearÉIREANN \ (caint) 22:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi; saw your changes to the map for this page and wanted to recommend using the terrain/topo one based on USGS data, as it's more "geographic" than the Regional Districts one you replaced the Atlas of Canada one with. I've been using the terrain map for locator-maps for the various mountain ranges, etc, although I've asked User:Qyd at Wikipedia Commons, who made them, to whip me up some closeups of certain areas; more on this later. I'd do the subbing of the image myself but I'm two hours late getting out the door (Wiki'ing all morning....). Skookum1 21:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng,
Sorry for the delayed response. I think Stevage has just about got it. Bread, lettuce, spring onions, cucumber, feta cheese, sun-dried tomatoes, beetroot, cherry tomatoes and some kind of olive (brown? neither green nor black?), with dressing in a jar. A sprig of parsley in the back. Also lurking in the background behind the jug of dressing is some cold meat. --
Fir0002
22:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I reverted your change of the touring car image because despite the fact that the current image is fair use, the free image is of very poor quality, especially in the thumbnail form used. The free image is a very broad photo that shows mostly the track and crowd, and the single visible car is a barely legible dot. The fair use image shows the cars very close up, is focused and demonstrates the wheel-to-wheel action common in the touring car series. Thanks. FCYTravis 00:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Howcheng, Just got your message. Since, this has been taken away from the Dodge Caliber page, I have decided for it to be deleted from Wikipedia. Thanks. -- The Helper S 06:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, i am totally shocked to see the deletion the content on "Krify" ( krify.com ) from Wikipedia with a reason that commercial promotion.
How did it viloate ? what is good about "rediff.com" and "infosys" which you incorporated in wikipedia still ?
I took this picture from another wikipedia article. What is the beef? Can`t wikipedia keep pictures clean? I do need some pictures and most here is 19th-20th century ahistoric s***. I try to make the best of the little useful pictures I find on other wiki articles and then things get deleted. Please DO tell me in detail what is going wrong here. This is the second picture that gets deleted. Wandalstouring 17:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I have been using your script ... I love it ... it makes things go MUCH more efficiently. I think I found a ... umm ... "feature", though. When User:Animé Dan should have been warned, User talk:Animé Dan was warned instead. (After you take a look at User talk:Animé Dan to confirm the bug/feature, please delete that page G7 as I'm sure no such person exists.) BigDT 00:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
First off, a general consensus wasn't reached in the deletion, with only one person wanting to delete it. The majority of the Randall Flagg talk group were in favor of keeping it.
Furthermore, the picture in question specifically illustrate[s] relevant points or sections within the text as it displays what happened in the book and is very important to Flagg's character as a whole. It also fits in every single of the other requirements.
Can we compromise and keep it out of Mordred's article but keep it in Flagg's? Its very important to the article and has been there for a while. The only reason why it was up for deletion was because someone foolishly ignored the spoiler warning and wanted to delete it because it spoiled something for him.
Also, other character articles often show the death scenes of their respective characters if there is one.-- CyberGhostface 22:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Howcheng, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8.
Regards, Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 22:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I received your message. That wasn't my file upload. I just reverted back to the original photo after some vandalism. If you go to the image's page you'll see the history. The original uploader might be able to specify the photos copyright status. Sorry that I couldn't be of more help.-- Sam Harmon 22:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed your recent edit of the Siberian Tiger photo on Featured Pictures. Do you know any way to edit this photo of Maya glyphs? When this photo appears on a page, the details are IMHO murky and the raised surface of the glyphs don't stand out.
Also, I am wondering if there's any way to highlight the inscribed glyphs on this photo of the Epi-Olmec script?? It would be nice if the glyphs just jumped off the page, even at the cost of doctoring the photo.
If you are not able (for whatever reason) to work with this, perhaps you could point me to someone who could.
In any case, thanks, Madman 17:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
User Howcheng, you have recently deleted images that appear on several articles, Holy Grail, Phoenix, and Sir Robert Bell. I kindly request that you furnish me with a comprehensive rationallee as to why you have deleted this image. Further, it would be appreciated if you would cite Wickipedia Policy for this, and any other images that have been deleted by you, for the same rationalle (s). Thank you. User:Wales 19:05, 09 August 2006
I just wanted to let you know that you can use {{or-fu2|Image:(insert image name)}} if you find a fair use image that has been supersceded by a free one. Hbdragon88 23:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow, that script is pretty nifty. I'm going to have to try that out - IFD is quite a tedious process; I have flip back and forth from tab to tab to copy the uploader's and image name, so forth. THanks for the link! Hbdragon88 00:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello, it appears that the flickr account owner recently changed the license. I assure you that when it was uploaded (the photo), the license was under the SA 2.0 license. Thanks. -- DieHard2k5 | Talk 00:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Would it be possible for you to verify the license in some way, in case of a similar incident? Thanks! -- DieHard2k5 | Talk 16:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello: It looks like you added a "Trivia" section to the Matthew Modine article. The one item that is posted is, "Modine is a first cousin of baseball great George Brett". This is not true and I'm sure it cannot be verified. I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia and am not sure what I can do about it, so I'm asking you to help. Can you remove it?
By the way, he is the NEPHEW of former Broadway actress Nola Fairbanks. Thanks! -- Jenny 03:20, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I am looking at the 3 wnba player pics listed for deletion. DawnStaley2006.jpg, KatieSmith2006.jpg, TinaThompson2006.jpg. And I did see your message regarding "stealing". Those pictures were released by the league media to help promote the league and players. I am not mis-using them in any way shape or form. You can even find them on 3rd party sites like yahoo.com. I don't understand wikipedia's policy on allowing pictures of athletes. There is no wikipedia guidelines in terms of what pictures are allowed from what source. What magazine, tv station or websites of athlete pictures are re-usable? Because there is no way I can take pictures of the athletes myself. Is there any licensing in the wording that can be used to allow the pics to stay? Please help. Starze 03:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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Take a look at [9] and [10]. There's some overlap in contributions, for example, [11], and they both like the edit description "Released under GNU FDL as part of Wikipedia", so I would say it's pretty much certain they are either the same person (or roommates or family members or whatever). Several days ago, I put several of User:Wd40gdw's CV images on IFD. But take a look at User:Troyboysc's contributions - a LOT (virtually all) of them sure don't look like free images. Image:Usctrackduanesolomon.jpg, for example, is from [12]. A lot of them he claims are "self made", but some like this Image:Usc victory bell.gif are extremely doubtful. If you check out User talk:Troyboysc#Response to Picture_Questions, the response to questions is less than reassuring. The comment I left several weeks ago has not been answered. I hate to keep nominating images en masse, but can you see any reason that I shouldn't list every single one of these images on IFD or PUI? BigDT 22:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
is his page back up yet? and did anyone see him broadcast live from C-SPAN2 on wednesday.
Thanks for uploading Image:BelmontCountyCourthouse StClairsvilleOH.jpg. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.
If the file also doesn't have a copyright tag, then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{ GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{ Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stubbleboy 05:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I reverted your replacement of a fair use image of the Ford Edge with a "free" one - and this is why: The "free" image is unfocused and very badly composed. The doors are open wide - blocking a proper view of the vehicle. You cannot make out anything in terms of "proportions" of the vehicle, or how it "stands". The "free" image is extremely poor - by far inferior to the "fair use" one from the press package, as provided freely by Ford Motor Company. While I certainly respect your efforts to replace "fair use" with "free images", substituting an excellent "allowable" image with extremely poor "more allowable" image is not what the Wikipedia policy intends. Just because some horribly amateurish "free" image is uploaded to the Wikipedia by a well meaning User does not mean the rest of us are to be forced to look at it and allow it to replace all the better pictures. We need a high quality image of the Ford Edge, not a bad one. The car comes out soon - perhaps then some higher quality free images will become available. Until then - please reconsider your actions, and please be much more selective in the images you add and delete to articles. Thanks! -- T-dot 09:23, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng. Can you please take a look at a new section, in the David Westerfield article, that an anonymous user added, called "Guilty?". In my opinion it is highly POV. I've dealt with this individual constantly and they continually use the article as their soapbox, because they think Westerfield was wrongfully convicted. Do you think the section is ok? I'd remove the section myself, however, this person will just reinsert it later. Thanks. TripleH1976 18:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Triple H1976 - You are just a person, who is pissed off because their relative is on death row in San Quentin. You better be able to put your money where your mouth is with this statement. You are an embarrassement to the honest posters on Wikipedia. You have accused me of being a relative also and most recently even being one and same of 196.15.168.40. I am honestly perplexed that you are continually allowed to make the comments you have without sourcing such. FreedomRings 20:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
OK people, we do not need to be arguing about this on my talk page. 196.15.168.40 is correct in that Wikipedia is not the "David Westerfield is guilty" site either. What Wikipedia is, is the "This is who David Westerfield is. This is what he was accused of and convicted of doing. These are some of the controversies around his conviction." web site. You are free to add information about controversy surrounding his conviction, but you cannot make the argument yourself. The article should be like a newspaper article, NOT like an essay. Capiche? Now stop arguing and get to work, dammit. howch e ng { chat} 20:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
My apologies Howcheng. FreedomRings 01:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Reply to howcheng: Your reprimand only came after one of TripleH1976's victims responded to his abuse, not after TripleH1976's insults. That could be a coincidence, you might not have accessed your talk page in between. But, more seriously, you have made no criticism of his contributions to the Westerfield article, but have supported his removal of my contributions, even though my contributions are far superior in quality to his. You can’t blame me for thinking there is a double standard here, that you are more tolerant of him, and I suspect it’s because you know he’s a loose cannon and don’t want to upset him.
I’d have thought an encyclopedia article SHOULD read like an essay and NOT a newspaper article. In fact, I thought that was what Prueda29 meant when they said (January 21) the very similar Danielle van Dam article “does not read like an encyclopedic article” (which TripleH1976, in typical TripleH1976 fashion, RUDELY rejected). 196.15.168.40 04:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
So now are you admitting that you came to wikipedia with an agenda? You want to tell the world there was a wrongful conviction? That's not news to me. It only took me a few edits to know you came here with that in mind. I have disputed many of your claims. Why do you think I archived the talk page in the Westerfield article? Because I was writing back and forth to you on it for so long. Now it appears like you want to do the same in Howcheng's talk page. His friends can claim he is a saint, and I'll still think he killed Danielle. I don't care what they say. Furthermore, if you put in some of the same effort, as you do, with your messages maybe you could have made the "Guilty?" section neutral by now. You think because you paid close attention to the trial, that everyone else did too. You expect Howcheng to tell you, "all right 196.15.168.40 you watched the trial. You have carte blanche on the article. Make Westerfield a martyr". You're obsessed with the media as if they convicted him. Most of the time the media does lean towards guilt. So you can say that about many cases, the Westerfield case is nothing special. The media didn't convict him; a jury DID! Who are you to say the jury was under pressure to convict? Did you know one of them? Don't try speaking for them if you don't. And don't compare the Westerfield case with the Mumia Abu-Jamal case. Abu-Jamal was convicted largely on faulty eye witness statements. Westerfield was not. He was convicted on forensic evidence. Personally, I don't think you could convict Westerfield with more compelling evidence. You seem obsessed that he is a great guy and we should all cry him a river, because he's in jail. Westerfield is a child-killer, and I wish California was faster in carrying out the death penalty that way Westerfield would be dead; can't happen soon enough for me. Another reason to oppose your "guilty?" section is the fact that you use weasel words. 205.250.55.211 01:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Reply to howcheng:
I might have instead been working on the article, but my work would have been promptly removed so my effort would have been wasted. You are assuming that TripleH1976 is a normal, rational human being. He isn’t. I’ve already given ample evidence of that. He is, instead, a fanatic, impervious to reason. Some 37 of my references were SECONDARY sources, but TripleH1976 deleted them anyway. Any excuse is sufficient for him. Truth and justice don’t come into it.
I can understand the point about not having original research, but I don’t agree with it, not in a case like this in which media coverage was superficial and biased. It means that, if the media didn’t report something, I can’t mention it, even though millions of people throughout the country heard it at the time and can still verify it for themselves; and if the media reported something incorrectly, Wikipedia can contain only the incorrect information, not the correct information! It simply doesn’t make sense. Let me give an example. No evidence was found that Westerfield had been in the van Dam home. That statement CAN be found in media reports, but it is attributed to the defense attorneys or one of Westerfield’s friends. Which therefore devalues/minimizes it, it’s what you would EXPECT them to say. But I quoted the JUDGE as saying it. That carries FAR more weight, but the media didn’t report that (at least not that I could find in the HUNDREDS of articles I scanned).
But IS my content “original research”? ALL of it was published by a “reliable source” (a major and respected local newspaper), and is readily available to readers. I would argue that it is “source-based research”, which is “strongly encouraged”. And primary sources are explicitly INCLUDED (permitted).
My section might LOOK as though I’m making the argument myself, but that’s surely because all the points are concentrated together in one section. (I previously explained why I did that: it wasn’t my first choice, I felt I was forced into it, but I nevertheless think it is a good and valid option.) If they were instead scattered around the article, it might not give that impression. I am quoting other sources in my section questioning guilt, just as the rest of the article should (but doesn’t) quote other sources in its argument pointing to guilt, so it’s not really true that I am making the argument myself, any more than the rest of the article is making its argument itself. True, I could constantly attribute the comments to whoever made them, but that would make the section even longer (or reduce the number of points I could include, to keep the length down). But if I must do that, then surely the rest of the article must do the same. There is a similar section in the Bruno Hauptmann article, albeit shorter and without references, so there is a precedent. The article on Mumia Abu-Jamal contains a considerable amount of argument that he was wrongfully convicted, and even has some references. Another precedent.
In saying that my section is “just too much”, you are perhaps referring to the length. It’s only ONE page - that’s about the same length as the rest of the article. And it includes the most significant evidence pointing to guilt - which the jury found sufficiently compelling to convict. So it’s not entirely a section arguing for innocence. The many references might make it appear longer than it actually is, but references are GOOD, and they are an example to other people, a very necessary example when you consider that the rest of the article contains NO references - making it appear shorter. (I don’t mind reducing the number of references: it’s more important to me to draw attention to the AREAS and POINTS of concern. Interested readers will then know WHAT to look for.)
I would argue that the length is justified because there is so much misinformation about the case - as evidenced by the many errors I found in the article when I first saw it. And the compulsory appeal will probably come up next year, so the extra information is timely. This was a very high-profile case - even the President mentioned it - so extra information can be justified on that ground. Also by the fact that the verdict is vigorously disputed. It can also be justified on the grounds that there were distinctive aspects of this case: this is likely the first time that this particular area of the fingers was used to make an identification. If entomological evidence is as inaccurate/unreliable as the prosecution argued - and the jury believed - then its use in criminal cases should be seriously reconsidered. And mine is a GOOD section (even if I say so myself). It gives a VARIETY of different arguments, showing that the concern over the verdict has a very broad base. And it’s an IMPORTANT section. A man’s life is quite literally at stake (and potentially the lives of many other children if he wasn’t Danielle’s killer). And the importance is not limited to this case: this is very relevant to the question of capital punishment. It shows that someone can be executed even though there are MANY concerns over their guilt. Ordinary members of the public should be made aware of this - it could happen to them or to someone they love. If you don’t think the Westerfield article is an appropriate place for this, then please suggest a better alternative.
With regard to the “newspaper” comments, I was surprised that you interpreted the first pillar to mean that Wikipedia does not cover all breaking news: I don’t see that from the context. Also, one of its advantages over the traditional encyclopedia is that it CAN be updated very rapidly - and SHOULD be if the breaking news renders anything in it out of date. I place a very different interpretation on the “newspaper” reference. Newspaper articles can be quite chatty and informal: that is out of place in an encyclopedia. I would also dispute that newspapers are detached and neutral. They may be sometimes, but not in this case. I’ve already given an example: both the local paper and Court TV repeatedly cast suspicion on Westerfield by describing his weekend trip as “strange”, “meandering”, “convoluted”, “weird”.
I don’t see anything wrong in one section in an encyclopedia article (whether in Wikipedia or any other encyclopedia) adopting a particular point of view, provided it states clearly what it is doing (which I did), and especially if that is done in response to a contrary bias in the rest of the article (as it was in this case). Anyone who thinks that this unbalances the article is at liberty to restore a balance, in this case such as by shortening the section or adding more evidence pointing to guilt. However, I would repeat that my section does NOT state that Westerfield is innocent, I merely point out that these are areas of concern. I do not dispute that there IS evidence pointing to him. My goal is to make people THINK. I am merely drawing people’s attention to certain facts, no more than that. In fact, there’s very little in my section that can be described as “opinion”: it’s almost entirely a collection of undisputed facts about the case.
It might be tiresome for you to have all these questions thrown at you, so you have my sympathy, but I am up against a really intolerant and obnoxious opponent, who will do anything he can to SUPPRESS evidence pointing to Westerfield’s innocence. It is therefore important that I can JUSTIFY everything I do. 196.15.168.40 06:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
You've left a note on my talkpage regarding an image I processed. I have to ask you kindly not to add such notes regarding images I've only optimized, though (edit summary: optimized using optipng), because I neither have any idea where they come from, nor do I even care if they're deleted or not - all I do is optimize them, no matter what they are. Thanks. -- elias. hc 18:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the image of the Shuttle plume. However, this is a fairly complex geometry - do we have one of say a straightforward chimney plume, (with or without a change in buoyancy and formation of a smoke-layer??) Bob aka Linuxlad 09:36, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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Congratulations and thanks for nominating it. -- Moondigger 01:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng,
Thanks for the message. That was the first copyvio I've ever tagged; sorry I missed a step. I was following up some suggestions from someone in the IRC channel.
What caused my concern is visible in this comparison:
comparison with cited article by copyscape.com
The similarities seemed to warrant asking for advice in the IRC channel, and I ended up tagging it as a copyvio. (Incidentally I ended up on this article because I've been working on William Orville Ayres, who gullibly wrote an article defending the authenticity of the Calaveras skull, which is a pretty interesting read; it's available in Google books here.)
Anyway, I hope you'll agree that it would make sense to at least rephrase the identical sentences. This is an interesting article, I hope to contribute to it once I've expanded the Ayres article a bit.
No hard feelings, I hope. Best regards
-- babbage 06:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng. You added a nice award-winning picture to the Homelessness article --- which had been there before. It is an amazingly good picture of the fate of the homeless. But we had removed many photos because there was criticism that the photos were over-bearing, and pushed readers away from a NPOV. So we cut number of pictures down to two or so. There was also a criticism that the article isn't international enough, which might be the case, so a contributor ( User:Ericd) in Nice, France asked for the present top one instead of the one you re-posted. See discussion on his talk page on this topic. User_talk:Ericd#Picture_on_the_Homelessness_article I am unsure how to proceed at this point. If people feel the photo images are too over-bearing, we should remove some, again ? Or put it in the US article -- Homelessness in the United States or is that too over-bearing, one wonders ? Your thoughts. Best Wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 17:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng. Oops. I just removed it for the time being. I think the photo of the homeless American is brilliant. But right now I don't know where to re-insert it to keep the "balance" required by the editors who criticised the visual NPOV before. I agree with you on general principles. Someone objected to the Ben Hana picture, as being too overbearing, but it stayed by putting it near the bottom. Unsure what a good move is. Exchanging the two images on top (your new re-insertion idea is fine with me _but_ seemingly would be against the prior peace treaty). Perhaps, you can insert it in the Homelessness in the United States article if it doesn't imbalance that ! I just don't know what the best course of action is. Perhaps post the query on the Homelessness discussion page ?. Thanks for your kind thoughts. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 17:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howard. Well the image of a homeless person, Image:P7032101 small2.jpg, is very compelling. But we are not supposed to overload the Homelessness article with pictures, say the WP community. I am all for excellent pictures portraying a point and illustrating the article, but I have a feeling there are enough pictures there already for the community's taste. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 16:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howard, you have a fan, Hawchang ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). × Meegs 13:59, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
I finally persuaded the copyright holder to allow the image for all purposes. See additional notes on Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Schempp-Hirth_Ventus_2B_Glider Please undelete anything you have deleted. Sorry about causing you extra work. JMcC 08:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll have a look at my contributions. ... discospinster talk 23:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I nominated 2 pics last day and looks like one of my friend wants to support me. It's true this is suspicious and I ask you if you think the vote are unappropiate please remove them Thank you. Arad 23:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
The votes won't be removed, but it's standard practice any consensus-building effort (such as FPC, FAC, AFD, etc) to note when a new user is contributing. It's up to the person who closes the debate to decide if they want to discount those votes. howch e ng { chat} 23:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Then my bad, i'll put them back. Arad 00:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC) I just don't want to be accused of this thing.
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Congratulations, and thanks for nominating it. Raven4x4x 09:26, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The discussion on FPC made me think about a photo that I've uploaded. Take a look at this, if you would, and let me know what licensing I need to use. -- Dante Alighieri | Talk 21:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Here's hoping you don,t take my edits of your edits the wrong way. I tried to make this as concise as possible, without repeating the whole Cat coat genetics article. -- Ramdrake 23:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Picture deleted following a complaint from the right holders (the Mucha heirs) to the Wikimedia Foundation. Sorry for the red links, I was trying to process as many in the 'copyvio' queue as I could. David.Monniaux 04:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Howcheng, I'd like to ask you to undelete Image:GirlsAloud_Nadine.jpg. Please see the discussion on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 August 28 about this - User:T-rex has different opinions about images than mainstream Wikipedia (i.e. "No unfree images should be used") and nominated this properly sourced, properly licensed, illustrative picture for deletion. If music video screencaps cannot be used on Wikipedia articles when free images are also available and being used, why do they exist at Kelly Clarkson, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, etc. etc. etc.? Perhaps you could drop User:T-rex a note about this. Thanks for your attention. Fabricationary 01:14, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
The proper thing to do was to change the licencing from disputed PD to undisputable fair use, which I have done, thus saving this valuable image for us (if not for all articles).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 00:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I know this is a really agitating image, but there were objections and a discussion on this IfD about the image. I'm just curious what the reasoning for deletion was. Yank sox 14:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, This is a tardy, but nevertheless heartfelt, thank you for responding to my question about an image on the Wikipedia:Media copyright questions page. If it weren't for people like you a lot of us wouldn't be able to do nearly as much on wikipedia! Thank you! -- Siobhan Hansa 22:37, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Nice additions.
Jeff Dean 9/12/06