Great edits at
Robert Byrd! I undid one edit
here, basically because I had to "prove" that the Slate article was not an op-ed piece and was verifiable. It is also not against policy to add more than one cite if it satisfies the basic requirement of citing a source. I can't recall if this was discussed at Robert Byrd or at
Strom Thurmond more extensively, but let me know if you want to discuss this further! Keep up the good work,
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03:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Just because it doesn't have a URL attached to a reference doesn't invalidate it. I suggest you do a little searching and I'm 100% sure you will find it.
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17:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)reply
The citation is there. If you are not willing to locate the source, and others can vouch for it, then the burden is on yourself. There is no reference at
WP:CITE regarding non-Internet sources. Would you disregard a book if it was a source if no free or snipped version was available online? Or a newspaper with no online homepage? For this particular article, it is in the archives and can be referenced through Access News Web -- although it cannot be hyperlinked here to Wikipedia due to its excessive length and because only academic students typically are the only users of such a service.
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22:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)reply
No, the burden is on you, the editor bringing forth the citation. If you cannot hyperlink to it, then you need to provide some of the wording of the source on Robert Byrd's talk page. That burden is on you, the proponent of the allegedly reliable source. You have made a claim that the citation exists, but you have not offered any proof that the citation exists. You have merely asserted that I must do your work and find the citation. Well, I did your work and I did not find the citation. However, there is a larger problem with the information. It is still an opinion that is offered as fact. And you are using an opinion piece to back up a commentary that you are offering as fact, even though it is opinion. Now, there is a third problem with the information. It does not provide anything of value to the article. The article already has several quotes from Byrd, not some source in a small town paper that no one can read, offering his mea culpa and apologia. And moreover, there is a fourth reason (but not the last reason) for the information's removal is that it was offered, in the first place, as simply a slam at Strom Thurmond somehow, and that is precisely what the Slate article does--clearly taking Slate into the area of opinion and not fact. Until the other article is provided (or some of the relevant wording is provided) then I am going remove the controversial material. Discretion is the better part of valor.--
Getaway22:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)reply
In the future...
In the future, regarding
talk:Robert Byrd, just snip out the portions you want to reply to and post them in quotes or copy the signatures and apply them to the dissegmented post. Jumping in between a conversation that isn't exceedingly long without adding signatures to the chopped portions renders the attribution useless. If another user jumps in and replies to one of your posts, then it can become quite messy.
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17:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)reply
I think the current version of the Condoleezza Rice page represents a good compromise, and is perhaps the best solution, due to the fact that it does not require either of us to waste any more time, participate in an edit-war or violate the 3RR - all of which we are either currently doing, or in danger of doing. This current edit keeps all of the information regarding Forbes/Time, however moves it to a less prominent position, I hope you feel the same way as I do about this edit, as perhaps it would be better for us to spend our time editing wikipedia in a constructive manner, than having petty disputes.
Sennen goroshi20:17, 27 September 2007 (UTC)reply
I don't think he left. He formerly edited as
Keetoowah but was placed on probation and when he began to attack users again, he was confronted and he switched to the Getaway account. After I started a report about Getaway's pattern of incivility, he abandoned this account. I suspect he then created the account
JobsElihu. When someone asked him if he was Keetowah/Getaway, that account was abandoned. I'm sure he's still posting under another account and still seething with rage every time he encounters an editor without a right-wing bias.--
Dcooper (
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15:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Yes. Now he's sniping anonymously from the revolving IPs of dial-up service, when he's not jumping from terminal to terminal at his local Kinko's. Poor thing. --
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04:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)reply
Too lazy to type m;mach 22:05, 1 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding
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WP:Hornbook -- a new WP:Law task force for the J.D. curriculum
Over the course of a semester, each subpage will shift its focus to track the unfolding curriculum(s) for classes using that casebook around the country.
It will also feature an extensive, hyperlinked "index" or "outline" to that casebook, pointing to pages, headers, or {{anchors}} in Wikipedia (
example).
Individual law schools can freely adapt our casebook outlines to the idiosyncratic curriculum devised by each individual professor.
I'm encouraging law students around the country to create local chapters of the club I'm starting at my own law school, "Student WP:Hornbook Editors". Using WP:Hornbook as our headquarters, we're hoping to create a study group so inclusive that nobody will dare not join.
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the
GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as you have made a number of contributions to the article. I have found some serious concerns which you can see at
Talk:Stem cell/GA1. The artcile appears to contain many copyright violations. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are addressed. Thanks.
Jezhotwells (
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21:07, 27 February 2010 (UTC)reply
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the
GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as you have made a number of contributions to the article. I have found some concerns which you can see at
Talk:Condoleezza Rice/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks.
Jezhotwells (
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23:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)reply
The article will be discussed at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ward Churchill academic misconduct investigation until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sandstein 11:29, 29 July 2015 (UTC)reply