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If the understand the discussion correctly, Zfiah118 is concerned about the way small sub-sets of a category hierarchy get nominated at a time, rather than the whole thing. This problem could be reduced by using semi-automation e.g. JWB to nominate larger numbers of categories together. I don't think it's the implementation by bot which is a problem for him, but the piecemeal decision-making process. –
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I think a fresh nomination would be clearer. I have reworded the close as "do not merge" instead of "keep" so as not to rule this out. –
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WikiOriginal-9: I think this would need a full CFD nomination. IMHO a speedy nomination would not fit the bill, because some others were specifically excluded from the merge.
The Titans and Texans ones didn't get emptied because there are others teams with the same name, so the (AFL) was needed to disambiguate them. Also, they would have been kept separate anyway because their previous names are different from their current names. For example, the Texans are now called the
Kansas City Chiefs and the Titans are the
New York Jets. All of the other AFL teams still use the same names, so that's why their cats were merged. It would look weird having a cat called "Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs players".
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23:25, 12 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Strigiformes
In
this discussion, I wasn't sure what exactly you meant to change in Wikidata, so I haven't touched that part and it's probably something you can better do yourself. There is clear consensus in the discussion anyway.
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21:08, 13 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Thanks. For the record, I decided not to merge them after all, as some other language Wikipedias have dual hierarchies by scientific name and common name. –
FayenaticLondon06:57, 22 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Hi Marcocapelle, we covered it between us. I deleted the establishments categories, and tidied up their century parent category pages. By the time I came back, Explicit had deleted most of the rest.
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Hey, considering that there are several ethnic groups living in Kyrgyzstan (and its direct predecessor, the Kyrgyz SSR) beside the Kyrgyz, I think it's best to keep everything not clearly related primarily to the Kyrgyz ethnic group in the country level category.
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As per your refusal of Prod here[
[1]] can you explain exactly what you mean (not disagreeing with you, just trying to understand)? I've looked through the Divination article, and I can't find any reference to "Mantic" there, nor can I see any reason why "Mantic" should redirect there.
Again, not disagreeing with you, just confused! Thanks,
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@
Zigzig20s: Pardon me, I hadn't realised it had been nominated at AfD. I was checking links to a category that had been renamed, and I deleted or blanked some of the other user pages that I found, but your page looked fairly decent at first glance. I thought tagging it would at least prompt you to remember it and perhaps get it ready for publishing, if it's not already. –
FayenaticLondon19:26, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
He is certainly notable in Beverly Hills and Jerusalem. But I don't have time to argue for it frankly. That's why I'd parked it in userspace.
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Can I have you look at the draft for SharkLinux and maybe help me regarding its deletion. I had thought I put forward enough sources to satisfy notability standard in the deletion discussion, however, it was deleted (I ask that you review the archived discussion just to ensure things went as you would have expected) There is also some confusion on my part as the admin who deleted and restored to a draft advises that sources need to be referenced within the article to count towards notability which is at odds with my policy research. I would greatly appreciate your guidance.
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@
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Category:Old Testament apocrypha
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Those definitely look like him, I don't usually block unless it's an active IP at that time as it won't affect him but just some poor soul comes along to it after him (not very likely though). I pinged
GoldenRing on the AN discussion, and I think these moves are exactly where his script helped (and I've completely forgotten how or where it is) but maybe he can help based on the timings of the Eldizzino account. Also, I stay away from cats except in straightforward cases precisely because I don't want to mess things up further. cheers. —
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To me this appears to be a
Distinction without a difference - attested, if I understand correctly, is usually meant to mean "found" as in earliest sample or the first time it is identified by linguists. Conlangs are different because they can have a specific year when they were introduced by their founders. However, the number of conlangs being so small in comparison to "natural languages" would make creating a specific cat for them relatively small, and probably not enough for year introductions. It makes more sense to me to merge the two together in whatever is the most widely used term. I thought that was attested.--
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You have closed and therefore participated in an improper discussion:
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 October 12#American track and field athletes by state. Why do I say it was improper? Because there was no notification placed on the categories affected. As a watcher of at least one of those and thus watching, I would have been notified. The creators of those categories would have been notified. This would have presumably brought them into the discussion. It certainly would have brought ME into the discussion had it not been conducted essentially in secrecy. The minimal discussion over the course of more than two months, only from high volume editors who live in the minutia of wikipedia back rooms, shows the lack of publicity of this discussion affecting so many categories. You didn't create this system, but you help validate this improper technique, created to achieve an outcome rather than a fair discussion. This system must get changed.
Overwhelmed, I still might have lost, but instead I and the other people who have so named the categories as a mirror of each other were excluded by the deliberate technique of NOT NOTIFYING THE AFFECTED ARTICLES or ASSOCIATED EDITORS. Locating @
Sillyfolkboy:, @
Le Deluge:, @
Mayumashu:, @
Aboutmovies: isn't that hard. Yes @
Koavf: and @
Hugo999: did participate.
The point I would have made is the entire discussion was about changing the word "people" with "athletes." The problem this created is that there are many coaches, meet directors, administrators and officials, to name a few, also included in those geographical based categories. Some also are athletes but not all of them achieved notoriety in that one role. And there are potentially more to be added who would fit such a situation, these categories are incomplete, as most are. Now some will be excluded because they are not known as athletes. Others look improperly included and are subject to some editor noticing that fact then ultimately removing them. I didn't get the chance to make that point.
Trackinfo (
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11:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Trackinfo: From the closure reason I can see that there is still the opportunity to recreate the T&F people categories if there are sufficient non-athletes in that grouping (i.e. people category will contain administrators, coaches, business people etc, with athletes being a subcategory). I think the main intention of the discussion was to stop there being inconsistencies with some states having "people" categories and other ones having "athletes" categories, rather than making a judgement on whether one or the other was useful or not. All major American sports use that structure already. If you think there are enough non-athletes to make the "people" ones worth the while then feel free to create them,
Category:Sport of athletics people would be a good place to start from
SFB18:21, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Trackinfo: If the category pages were not tagged, I should have closed the discussion as "procedural close". However, they were indeed tagged, e.g. Arizona
[2], Virginia
[3]. Ten renamed categories and two retained categories have WikiProject Athletics banners on the talk page, and therefore appeared in that project's Alerts listing, see
permalink and
Archive. I know for a fact that 24 category pages were tagged, because they were the final contents of
Category:Categories for discussion from September 2017 which became empty after I processed the close of that CFD.
CFD discussions can be closed after seven days. This one was open from September to December, so you had ample opportunity to notice it and participate. I'm sorry that you missed the edits to the pages on your watchlist and the Alerts, and that you did not receive a backup notification directly from the nominator; the latter is seen as good practice but is not a procedural requirement.
I'm used to the futility of these discussions. Other expected parties have been heard from, now. I am trying to move forward to correct the problems caused. I still believe it was done without proper notification. It doesn't matter how many months you leave an notice hidden in some obscure location, if you don't notify ALL the affected ARTICLES until it is too late, you have not given reasonable notice. That is a systematic problem beyond execution of this one CfD.
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16:48, 20 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Well, at least you are no longer claiming that the category pages were not properly tagged. It has never been a requirement to tag any articles about a category, and it would usually be impractical to tag all of them, so your idea of reasonable notice does not overlap with mine. Best wishes for a calm Christmas and a reasonable new year!
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Thanks for letting us know,
Armbrust. I manually processed the batches that had been listed there, and what I thought was sufficient of the talk pages.
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