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Hi DTM, you asked for a scholarly article on the LAC. Here it is. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 19:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Here is another very deep article. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 23:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
I am putting all my eggs in the Kashmir basket. China has long been trying to edge itself into the "Kashmir dispute". Modi's reconfiguration of J&K has now given an opportunity to China to openly flaunt its Pakistan axis, and threaten a pincer on Kashmir. Call the reconfiguration of J&K Modi's "forward policy". India is in exactly in the same position as it was in 1962. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:05, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Drat8sub, thanks for that report. I never knew anything about it. I will check.
I am not so sure of my theory of PP-14 any more because enough discussion has happened in the media, suggesting that the incidents took place in the Galwan valley. There are some confusing aspects like people "falling off cliffs" whereas there are no cliffs in the Galwan valley.
DiplomatTesterMan, the best way to investigate the infrastructure is to go to OpenStreetMap, zoom in to areas closely enough for the roads become visible, then use the right hand side menu where there is an arrow logo at the bottom (called "Query features"), and use the highlighter on the feature you want to query. Then it opens up an infobox for that feature which you can click. For example, here is the feature called the Galwan Highway (the top segment of it). The last segment known to OpenStreetMap is this one. We don't know if the road was extended any further because it doesn't show on the publicly available satellite maps.
OSM uses things called 'ways' (which are continuous segments) and 'relations' (which are larger features). For some roads or lines, people would have defined relations, e.g., the Aksai Chin boundary. For the Galwan Highway, there is no 'relation' yet. So you need to query each 'way' separately.
If you click the "layers" logo on the right hand menu, you get to pick four different views of the maps. I often use the "cycle map" which shows the terrain. Then you get to see the mountains etc, which would otherwise be just blank space. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:17, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Incidentally, the precise location of the LAC in the Galwan Valley can also be a matter of considerable dispute. A Chinese editor just edited the OpenStreetMap boundary three days ago, giving China a bit more of land than it had already. But Google Maps, using the US Office of Geographer data, shows it a bit further up from the junction with the stream: 2D terrain, 3D. So the location where the Chinese tent was burnt down is on the Indian side of the LAC as per the US data. It gets very very tricky here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 10:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
The edit history of the LAC at Galwan on OpenStreetMap. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Kautilya3, I went ahead and added Depsang to the OSM eastern Ladakh map that you had placed in the main article. One of the sources 1 I have added to the article mentioned other patrol points, but it is hard to figure out where they all are. I assume it starts from PP - 01
Bottleneck is known as Y-junction because the track coming from Burtse forks into two tracks, one going northwards along the Raki Nala to Patrolling Point-10 (PP-10) and the other south-eastward towards PP-13. These two tracks are followed by Indian patrols on foot up to PP-10, PP-11, PP-11A, PP-12 and PP-13.
DTM ( talk) 11:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Comment:@ Kautilya3, DiplomatTesterMan, and Santoshdts: Bharat Karnad writes a blog about strategic affairs which is definitely worth reading. Bharat Karnad is one of India’s most well known strategic-affairs commentator; he has been quoted in almost all the books on Indian nuclear policy that I have read. ( WP:TPS)— Vaibhavafro 💬 09:46, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Interesting that the entire Raki Nala was excluded from China's 1960 claim line. But at the end of the 1962 war, they were occupying it, sort of along a north-south straight line. The LSIB 2017 (used by Google maps), for the first time, pushes out the LAC in that area, not all the way to the end of Raki Nala, but about half way out. I don't know how it happened. Perhaps the 2013 stand-off gave India some gains. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 20:40, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
India's access to the Chang Barma valley (the valley at the middle of the lake on its northern shore) used to be via the Ane La pass in the north. An alternative route used to be the middl(the valley at the middle of the lake on its northern shore)e section of the lake, which could be presumably crossed by foot from the southern shore. Both of these were cut off by China in 1960. An excellent example of "seven inches below the head".
Then India started laboriously developing a route along the northern shore, which has never been done before because of the "fingers" jutting into the lake. So this route is now being cut off at Finger 4, another example of the same paradigm. The strategic importance of Finger 4 now becomes clear. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:22, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
"Chang" just means north. So you find it in many names: Chang La, Changlung, Changtang etc. Changtang (or Changthang) now just means elevated grazing grounds all over Ladakh as well as Tibet.
For this particular valley, Strachey wrote its name as "Chang Parma" and Godwin-Austen spelled it as "Chang Burmah". I thought "Barma" must be a more standardised spelling, but now I am having doubts. Normally "Barma" occurs twinned with "Yogma". (There is a Changlung Barma pass and another Changlung Yogma pass. So it is some kind of a disambiguator.) We don't see that here. So I am going to change it back to "Parma". As to what "Parma" could mean see here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
When we say the "original boundary", we need to keep in mind that there were two boundaries, which are explained on the Demchok sector page. The first boundary was decided in 1847-48 by an official boundary commission consisting of Alexander Cunningham, Henry Strachey and Thomas Thomson, all of whom are highly notable explorers. The second boundary was unofficially made up by the Kashmir survey in 1860s on highly questionable grounds. Normally, surveyors don't make boundaries. They can only recommend them to the government, which is then responsible for deciding. In this case, nothing was decided. So their boundary line got printed on all the maps without any decisions having been made. (Privately, there might have been discussions between the Government of India and the Kashmir Maharajas, which we don't know about. The Kashmiris did not accept the boundaries and just kept doing whatever they always did.)
After independence, the new "Government of India", for the first time, listened to the Kashmiris and formalised the prevailing situation as a border line. India's border line is thus closer to the Cunningham-Strachey-Thomson boundary from 1847. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Here. It was added to OSM on 16 May.
detresfa's map shows that it is already under Chinese occupation. It hasn't been reported in the Press.
The new claim line appears to be at the coordinates the Chinese declared in 1960: 34° 22' N, 78° 53' E. So this could be a riposte to the Indian demand for the 1960 coordinates in the Galwan Valley.
Some background on the Changlung river: It is one of the two major tributaries of the Chang Chenmo River, the other being Kugrung, which is to the west on the Indian side of the LAC. (Recall that "Chang" means north and "lung" is something like a valley. Not a great name. But there we are.) Changlung is the communication route to the head of the Galwan Valley (Samzungling). You see it on the travel routes map above. Karam Singh, leading an Indian patrol party sometime before 1959:
"Now, look at your map, we shall be moving along river Chang Lung towards Samzungling via Kota Jilga [Keta] and Yangling [Banlong?]. Samzungling is 30 KM away and lies to the southeast of Panamic and northeast of Tegar. A fair weather road exists till Yangling which is going to be our first stop. Everybody shall carry half a seer of dry fruits for use in any emergency. This packet, however, shall be opened only under my orders. Everybody must have snow goggles with him. "Right, Merey Shero (my tigers), our next stop is going to be at Banlong about 13 K.M. from here. We go along the Chang Lung River. I do not expect any big problems on our way. It is no more than a rivulet and could be crossed at many places or just jumped over at some'.... Well before the sunset, they made to Samzungling, the source of river Galwan and a regular halting place for the caravans that had built some structures there for their stay. There was again no need to pitch up their tents here. The patrol found ready shelters to spend the night. [1]
The other place where you see Chinese positions in defstra's map is on a tributary of Galwan called "Xicagou" (rhymes with Chicago). The 1962 Indian post was established on this tributary, close to its meeting point with Galwan. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
References
The Chinese move behind the Indian perception of the LAC in Galwan Valley, and the Indians move behind the Chinese perception of the LAC at the Galwan estuary. No word yet on the Pangong Fingers or Hot Sprints (especially Changlung).
-- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
A quick summary of the losses is here, from Ajai Shukla. I actually watched the whole interview, which is useful to convince yourself that Shukla knows what he is talking about, but there is no particular information there. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 07:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
I guess I haven't told you guys about earthworks.stanford.edu. This is an extremely useful site as it documents the US Office of Georapher's LSIB3 database, released in 2013, overlaid on the OpenStreetMap. (I haven't found any place for the last LSIB database, which was released in 2017, and used by Google Maps). Since the OSM boundaries are constantly being changed by Chinese editors, we get to see the claims that the Chinese are making or intend to be make in future. So, funnily, all that the Indian military has to do to figure out where the Chinese will encroach in future, all they have to do is to monitor OpenStreetMap!
So, here are the OSM edit histories for the boundary at the currently disputed locations:
When a line is changed, the old line is marked in red, the new line in green. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
The officer said that “Chinese troops, which were part of an ongoing training exercise, were later diverted to the standoff sites on the LAC. These exercises are routine every summer and there has been a long understanding that the two armies move back to their bases after the exercise. It is an established norm, followed scrupulously for years.”
Deja vu? Wasn't it the same argument they gave for why the Kargil intrusions weren't countered? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
-- Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:58, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Hold on a minute. What did you mean by I have the right user name for it and then connect my username to Russian Diplomat Vodka? DTM ( talk) 14:49, 28 July 2020 (UTC) @ Kautilya3: DTM ( talk) 14:49, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
He is a legendary officer Jharkhand Cadre currently serving in CRPF. Jascfc ( talk) 11:47, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
He has also been appointed as the Managing trustee of Bharat Ke Veer Trust by the Home Ministry Jascfc ( talk) 19:06, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Also for some reason links aren't getting pasted! Jascfc ( talk) 19:10, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Send me your email id and I'll forward you the links! Jascfc ( talk) 19:10, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Ram Ram bhai,
Kit se? Jiwe se, ke mar gya? hehehe Hope all is well with you.
Thanks for creating India-China Border Roads. I have expanded it to include all the related infrastructure revelent to the India-China geostrategic context. You may want to rename the article to "India-China border geostrategic infrastructure" and within that ICBR is one of the component, along with important railways, AGLs, etc. I will continue to expand the text, e.g.
In addition to ICBR article you created, please see the table I have created List_of_disputed_territories_of_India#Disputed_areas and the Andaman_and_Nicobar_Command#Strategic_importance_of_ANC section I wrote (along with the table in the article). These 3 articles, including your ICBR article, summarise India's China centric geostrategic context and infra/political developmentsetc. Perhaps we could create a separte "meta article" article India's China centric geostrategic initiatives to summarise these 3 article, while still retaining the present 3 articles for capturing details. What do you think?
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Hi. The article Delhi Metropolitan Council has been nominated for copyvio. But I copied some parts of the Article from Delhi Legislative Assembly with credit and I think copying within wiki is allowed if given credit. So can you please add that to AFD or something else? Thank you. -- Manasbose ( talk | contribs) 04:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Kautilya3, two questions,
DTM ( talk) 07:47, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
I think I disagree that the Battle of Namka Chu is an example of "what not to do".
I would say that the local negotiations should have been allowed, and if they didn't reach a resolution (as I would expect), the matter should have been escalated to senior levels. While this was going on, a token post could have been retained at Namka Chu, but the bulk of the force could have been withdrawn to Pangchen. The real battle, if at all it had to happen, should have happened at Pangchen, not at Namka Chu. Meanwhile, the entire Tawang district should have been reinforced. In the event, even the Tawang town was left undefended in order to support Namka Chu.
But the Henderson Brooks & Bhagat report goes out of line in declaring that Dhola Post was not Indian territory. It wasn't its job to make judgements on such matters. Practically everybody in the Army is convinced, even today, that the Dhola Post was in Chinese territory. Ajai Shukla writes, "In one of the HBR's revelations, it emerges that Dhola was accidentally established on China's side of the McMahon Line.
" So, as if the Army's faults weren't bad enough, HBR screwed it up even more, giving ammunition to the likes of Neville Maxwell. --
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...the so-called "Battle of Namka Chu". Even though it is a catchy title, there wasn't really a "battle" there. Basically the Indian positions were overrun.>> There are many sources which use the phrase/title "Battle of Namka Chu", (a simple Google search conveys the same) though "Namka Chu incident" is also there. Anything with overrun in the header may be a bit too much even if that is what happened. The suggestion to shift it to Dhola Post post makes sense for now.
DTM ( talk) 10:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello DiplomatTesterMan. I am writing to you about the Zhenhua Data Leak article you created. [2]. I have a question. How did you get the article to be rated the way it did? [3] I was thinking of adding the article to the Mass Surveillance WikiProject. However, I do not know how to get the rater to do it. Therefore i have come here to seek your help. Thank you for the help in advance! Fortliberty ( talk) 09:47, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Bilkis. This is known as a " cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Captain Calm ( talk) 10:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Various Bilkis articles keep moving around! Fiddle Faddle 11:31, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
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I noticed that you closed the AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bilkis Dadi today, despite being the one who created the AfD discussion. I remember that a nominator can only withdraw an AfD and close it as keep/speedy keep if all the votes there are for Keep. But, there's one delete vote at least which makes me believe that your AfD closure wasn't right. Any comments? ─ The Aafī ( talk) 17:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
I see Ajai Shukla using your map of the Chushul sector in his talk in this debate. Congratulations again! -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 16:37, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Can you see if you can do something about the page which I created? I see that you made a quick decision on the Bilkis Dadi AfD discussion. Lots of experienced Indian journalists do not seem to be present on Wikipedia. Even Mihir Sharma's page is looking pretty thin. I can easily add content there. Just because no one is adding content to a page doesn't mean it's not there. Same with the Anchal Vohra page. That's what I feel. Even the CEO of Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation didn't have a Wikipedia page. So, I created one for him. Now, it's in Draft.
Well ... I am new here. So. AltruisticHomoSapien ( talk) 21:06, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Can you see if you can do something about the page which I created?; which page are you talking about?
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Great work! AltruisticHomoSapien ( talk) 21:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC) |
The article cites "Mehrotra 2000" but no such source is listed in bibliography. Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script to highlight such errors in the future. All you need to do is copy and paste importScript('User:Svick/HarvErrors.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Svick/HarvErrors.js]]
to
your common.js page. Thanks,
Renata (
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21:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
I was strugglng to read the Sandhu book (which you will see cited at Depsang Plains), but eventually found a really nice summary here:
This is a must-read for everybody thinking about the present conflict. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 16:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Retaliate with short, fierce and sudden fire power, [...]; the shells may cross the border but personnel should not cross the border.In today's language it would be, "shells and missiles and drones and aircraft and satellites may cross the border but personnel should not cross the border".
Why has China suddenly tried to change the rules of the game and how should India deal with the changed narrative?If the question was asked by someone from China, I assume the question would change to > "Why has India suddenly tried to change the rules of the game and how should China deal with the changed narrative?"
On 8 October 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article India–Tibet relations, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the number of Tibetan refugees in India decreased by 44 per cent between 2011 and 2018? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/India–Tibet relations. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, India–Tibet relations), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 00:02, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for maintaining the integrity of the Wikipedia. Zakaria1978 ښه راغلاست ( talk) 19:26, 10 October 2020 (UTC) |
( talk page stalker) He's a new editor, with an advertised user-information of Pakistani, who appears to alternate between gnomish edits on Pakistan related pages and POV edits on India-related. In terms of my interaction, at first, he was opposing me obliquely (e.g. should Kamala Harris be described as South Asian American (her senate website's language, and my position) or Indian-American (his position)) and then more directly and persistingly. Soon after I saw him handing out barnstars to various people who had either also opposed me or taken an independent position. Sometimes they are even Pakistan Merit Barnstars! Very unusual if you ask me. But you don't fit the statistic; I don't recall you opposing me, or vice versa. Anyway, here was my two cents. At the worst this could be a misguided attempt at soliciting support; at best, it could be honest appreciation, and the POV implication accidental. I'm not sure, but it bears watching. There is also the issue of devaluing indeed deflating the significance of a barnstar. Although there are no benchmarks there, and they indeed can be handed out by anonymous users, they tend to be more direct in terms of what it is they appreciate, and less profligate (he's handed out 20+ barnstars in the last two weeks). Fowler&fowler «Talk» 12:45, 18 October 2020 (UTC) Updated Fowler&fowler «Talk» 12:53, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | |
My first ever barnstar to anyone goes to you for your contribution to several articles, especially for putting hard work into multiple IndoChina articles, ladakh related articles, infrastructure related articles such as
India-China Border Roads and for promptly creating
China's salami slicing article.
Thank you! 58.182.176.169 ( talk) 15:31, 7 November 2020 (UTC) |
Template:Indian administered territories adjoining China administered territories has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. MehrajMir (talk) 14:04, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
FacetsOfNonStickPans is away on vacation and may not respond swiftly to queries. |
The article cites "Bhattacharji 2012" but no such source is listed in the bibliography. Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script to highlight such errors in the future. All you need to do is copy and paste importScript('User:Svick/HarvErrors.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Svick/HarvErrors.js]]
to
your common.js page. Thanks,
Renata (
talk)
02:46, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello DiplomatTesterMan,
Hope you are doing well.
Wishing you a happy, safe, and prosperous
Diwali. Stay safe. Regards.
--
Titodutta (
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18:56, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Jointness and integration in the Indian military at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SL93 ( talk) 19:03, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Jointness and integration in the Indian military at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah ( talk) 21:00, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi DTM, hope you had a good Diwali! Glad to see you back.
I had the 1934 Jammu and Kashmir Praja Sabha election for ages in my drafts and you spurred me to get it out. There is a lot about pre-independence Kashmir that is not well-understood. (Not that post-independence Kashmir is well understood either, but at least we talk about it.)
I couldn't get the Infobox on the page to work. I wonder if you can take a look. Pinging also Arjayay and Gotitbro. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 07:49, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Glad to see you back— not fully back as yet!
Have you heard about Asad Durrani's new book "Honour Among Spies"? It's a "thinly disguised fiction", pretty interesting. And I think I see enough reviews on a quick Google search for a new Wikipedia article. Regards, TryKid dubious – discuss 05:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
I have expanded the DG Sea Connect. Please split it into 2 articles by moving the DG_Sea_Connect#Other_RORO_in_India section to a new namespace RORO ferries in India, also copy paste the "see also" section into the new article from the existing "DG Sea Connect". Apart from that no other chanegs are needed as the sources/references used in both are mutually exclusive. Thanks in advance. 58.182.176.169 ( talk) 10:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Three Warfares at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset ( talk) 21:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
A short research paper on the revocation of Article 370 of the Constitution of India and other recent events in and concerning the region of Jammu and Kashmir was published in June 2020 titled -
Five editors were interviewed for this study — 1 from Pakistan, 1 from US, 3 from India. The report is five pages. A paragraph says
As another incident on the English Kashmir conflict page (A2), two editors made the same revision at two different times (January 22, 2019 and August 6, 2019), removing a section related to human rights violations by Indian forces against Kashmiris. On both occasions, the removal was undone by another editor within fewer than fifteen minutes [1, 2].
MarkH21, just for your information if you haven't already seen it, this quoted line refers to one of your edits. Signpost also mentioned this research study SP Recent Research August 2020 DTM ( talk) 05:45, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
On 2 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jointness and integration in the Indian military, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that inter-service cooperation was one of the most important lessons of the Bangladesh war for India? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jointness and integration in the Indian military. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Jointness and integration in the Indian military), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 00:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
fr:Tibet_(homonymie). The French have it cased. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:56, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
have it cased— do you mean something related to the disambg page — Tibet (disambiguation) — or gendered? Going through the other languages es:Tíbet (desambiguación) and de:Tibet (Begriffsklärung)........ I don't quite follow? DTM ( talk) 14:51, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Bhai ram ram,
This is often talked topic, but did not come across any wiki article. There is salami tactics which had one sentence which said "India accuses china of salami slice tactic". I spent few hours and expanded it significantly, added dimensions/elements/aspects/components of the strategy, and described each component with examples. Here is the result China's salami slice strategy
I have piped it to all other related articles to drive multidirectional traffic, and consequently better chances of improvement in the article. Please review/enhance, my first cut.
I think we should portion it out into a brand new article. If you agree then please go ahead and do so, in such a manner that existing piping to the existing anchored section would somehow redirect to the new article. If it is not possible, then let me know, I know of remember which places I have piped it to, perhaps nearly 10 or so. Thanks. 58.182.176.169 ( talk) 15:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
ITBP Belgian Malinois pups — "By naming these little K9 soldiers with 100 per cent desi names and that too from the areas guarded by the force, the combat dogs wing of the force aims to acknowledge its own legacy and ethos" ( source)
Spot any redlinks which are already articles, just not linked correctly? DTM ( talk) 14:14, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, there. This is Mohsin Kamal, a journalist based in Kashmir. I wanted to talk to you regarding something. Is it possible for you to drop a mail at mohsinkamal286@gmail.com, please.
Thanks Hoping to hear from you very soon. Mohsin Kamal ( talk) 18:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Could you please check the mail instead? I'll be grateful. Thanks Mohsin Kamal ( talk) 13:38, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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On 7 December 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2020 Indian farmers' protest, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 14:35, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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Happy editing! Wishing you and your loved ones a great next year and beyond. Zakaria ښه راغلاست ( talk) 03:59, 26 December 2020 (UTC) |
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Health warning. This report from BBC-Chinese comes labelled as "Complicated". I hope you can manage to read it anyway. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 04:20, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Karima Baloch you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Z1720 -- Z1720 ( talk) 01:42, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
The article Karima Baloch you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Karima Baloch for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Z1720 -- Z1720 ( talk) 02:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar | |
Thank You Luckylukee81 ( talk) 12:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC) |
I am annoyed by Template:Map of Ladakh. The reason is that it appears in a maintenance list and I have no clue where the problem is coming from. The maintenance list says that it has a link to de disambiguation page Hanle but I can not find any link to that page. They are all set to Hanle (village) or unlinked. Can you help me find the naughty link? The Banner talk 22:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Wikiepdia doesn't have an article on Moral vacuum? This is a wonderful five minute scene from Yes Minister:—
Bernard: Well, I was just wondering if the minister was right, actually.
Sir Humphrey: Very unlikely. What about?
Bernard : About ends and means. I mean, will I end up as a moral vacuum too?
Sir Humphrey : Oh, I hope so, Bernard. If you work hard enough.
Bernard Woolley: I actually feel rather downcast. If it's our job to carry out government policies, shouldn't we believe in them?
Sir Humphrey : Huh, what an extraordinary idea.
DTM ( talk) 12:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Gurdip Singh Kler says:
The Chip Chap river Indian Army post of thirty men held at bay 500 Chinese for a whole day and at the end of fighting only four of them survived, while Chinese had more than 150 causalities. [1]
Sandhu and co. give quite a different narrative, which we put on the Depsang Plains page. Who is right? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
References
Hello, FacetsOfNonStickPans. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for India and the Non-Aligned Movement at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Cheers, Baffle☿gab 22:16, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
I don't have access to the book. But the review indicates that it is an opinionated book. Try not to cite it. We have plenty of academic sources. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
DTM,
Thanks for your efforts in trying to make statistical sense from the Signpost pageviews data! I consider this one of the most useful articles of the year for me as editor-in-chief, answering the question "How can we select or solicit articles that our main readership, the community of Wikipedia editors, want to read?" It is also important to many of our readers: "Is The Signpost fulfilling its mandate of serving this community."
In short, I consider this article as akin to an annual report of The Signpost.
The short answer to your questions at User:DiplomatTesterMan/SP_outlier_table is "I don't know." I'll ping Igordebraga and HaeB who should have some ideas.This relates to questions at User:DiplomatTesterMan/SP_outlier_table] and a future article like
Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-03-01/Special_report.
The long answer to your question on outliers is:
A very short and over-simplified answer: regard anything over 16,000 pageviews on The Signpost as an outlier. Or (I suppose I have a COI) separate out the 3 possible outliers for this year for a brief examination *but* don't remove them from the overall results.
I wish I had a better answer.
Smallbones( smalltalk) 17:28, 21 January 2021 (UTC)