Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Toddst1 ( talk) 21:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. It's under Repeated Personal Attacks. Also, please note that I didn't report you. I'm just notifying you because the user reporting you didn't. - Amaury ( talk) 21:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Expatkiwi,
I'm KoshVorlon, I'm not an admin, a 'crat, a sysop, I'm just a user, just like you are. Very much like you, I also had a huge problem with NFCC, I also used IAR to ignore NFCC, because I thought it was non-sensical. My thought was, use the best picture for wiki, not some washed up, blurred out photo that happens to be free. I've been blocked for that. I've come to realize that the image rules aren't as byzantine as I first thought. Wikipedia wants to remain a free resource, in order for that to happen, they need to use free images whenever possible.
Yes, there will be times when it isn't possible for that to be done, so , as a concession of sort, Wikipedia has a list of 10 criterias, if the image meets all 10 of those criterias , then it can be used, even though it isn't free.
To be sure, it's stricter than U.S copyright law, but at the end of the day, it keeps Wikipedia from a.) being sued (which keeps Wikipedia from being shut down ) and b.) keeps Wikipedia free (information and all ! ).
I won't come back on your page unless you ask me to, but as one who's had - A LOT - of issues with this policy (I mean me ) I thought I'd send you a note to help you out, as it's a real bitch figuring out the NFCC policy alone! :) KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 19:13, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
If you continue to ignore and violate WP:NFCC I will be forced to take this back to WP:ANI and either ask for a topic ban in regards to NFC or having you blocked. Werieth ( talk) 20:21, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. I was asked to look into this situation by two people concerned that you might not understand the issues. I'll see if I can make this clear.
Wikipedia is a core participant in and advocate for the Free culture movement. It is a strongly held principle that we should whenever possible use only free content here, as well as on other Wikimedia Foundation Projects. Free content is "free" as in speech - meaning that there are minimal legal restrictions on its use. This allows the educational resources we are creating to be used by as many people as possible, for as many reasons as possible, everywhere around the world.
Recognizing, however, that there may sometimes be need to use non-free materials in building a reference work, our Board of Trustees permits each project (except Commons) create an "exemption doctrine policy" (EDP). Our use of non-free materials must conform to this policy. If it does not, we can't use it. Wikipedia's exemption doctrine policy is, of course, WP:NFCC. It incorporates by reference the guideline WP:NFC.
Many years ago, the community decided to restrict using non-free images in list articles or tables in almost any case. This is written into WP:NFC at WP:NFLISTS and WP:NFTABLE. This is both to minimize risk (the more heavily we use any specific non-free content, the more we open ourselves up to legal claim of misuse) and to conform as closely as possible to the core value of free content. As long as this is the community's stance, such image use should be avoided. I believe you were first told this in 2005, [ [1]]. That practice has if anything strengthened in the 7 years since. I also see that you asked about the practice at WP:NFCR here a few days before you created List of Australian Police flags and began including non-free flags. At that point, you were aware of the prohibition and had been pointed to NFC.
It's important when you know that an action is controversial and particularly when it may be a problem under the community's approach to copyrighted content to gain consensus before you take that action. Collaborating well with others is not bowing to zealous bureaucracy; it's respecting your colleagues, and it is the only thing that makes this open-source encyclopedia function.
I think if you want to continue contributing, the best way forward here may be taking a step back to look at those policies. Over the years, you have many times been cautioned that you are using non-free images in ways that policy and guideline do not permit. If you feel strongly that policy and guideline should permit images to be used in these ways, the thing to do is convince the community to your point of view. After you do that, you can use the images that way without issue. If the community will not agree with your point of view, then the non-free content just can't be used that way. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Like I said, I had the same problem you did with NFCC. I'm still not 100 clear, however I've been steering clear of adding any image I didn't make myself (there have been two exceptions when I took screenshots of wikipedia to demonstrate what I was seeing.
Read what I wrote above again, the explanation is a bit byzantine, but the concept is easier to comprehend. I can see you want to contribute, and that's great, there's just ways of doing things around wiki :) KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 21:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Because they seem to be cluttering up the place, I've removed a bunch of bot notices about orphaned images. I spot-checked a few, and it seems that the issue may be that you uploaded them and tagged them, but never placed them in the articles you intended them for. For example, File:New Zealand Fire Service Flag.gif was tagged for New Zealand Fire Service, but has never been placed in that article ( [2]). I checked primarily to make sure that somebody wasn't removing images that you had uploaded without good reason while you were blocked, and I'm happy to see that this isn't the case.
It does kind of highlight a problem, though. Non-free images need a valid fair use statement and must be used in the article in which you indicate they will be. I can't argue with you that the rules around the use of non-free images on Wikipedia can be confusing (to this day, I cannot explain why it's okay to have a non-free image of some perfectly ordinary looking man to tell us what soap opera character Shawn Butler looks like, when we can't have a non-free image of that same perfectly ordinary looking man to tell us what he looks like), but the non-free image rules are just one of the realities of participation here. If you want to upload and use non-free images, it's important to get a handle on what those rules are and follow them. There are some rules that can be ignored for the bettering of the encyclopedia, but only if the general editing population agrees that ignoring the rule betters the encyclopedia. Failure to follow non-free content policies really doesn't have that agreement. Our only option is to get the rules clarified or changed through community discussion. (I myself seldom mess with non-free images - only in regards to cover art, which is clearly permitted by policy and guideline.)
I think it's also important not to personalize disputes on Wikipedia. It can be very hard to avoid this, of course, when you and somebody else feel strongly about opposite ends of a debate, but I try to keep in mind that what it really means is that they care about Wikipedia as much as I do. We just feel differently about what's right for it. The real danger of disagreements becoming personal, of course, is that it becomes much harder to reach agreement and move forward. This is really the only way we make Wikipedia function - otherwise, factionalism would cripple it altogether. :) If it were easy to avoid this, we wouldn't have so many policies ("
Wikipedia is not a battleground", "
Civility", "
No personal attacks"), guidelines ("
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Etiquette") and essays ("
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drop the stick and back away slowly. :/ --
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I have removed an improper unblock request made by a third party. Remember, in order to be acceptable, your unblock request must address the reasons for the block. I see two prime reasons: copyright violations, and
personal attacks. If I indeed "see above", I see you referring to someone as "Ironbrain", which is inappropriate - indeed, when people try to HELP you and prevent you from being blocked, you should not attack them in any way, shape or manner. See
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been 18 months since the block was imposed. I'd like to be able to contribute to Wikipedia once more
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Per Only's statement below. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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In order for that to be considered, you need to state your understanding of the reasons for your block, and how you will change your editing habits if you were to be unblocked. only ( talk) 11:58, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
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understood that reason for block was prolific use of non-free images and re-loading of removed images. Will desist from doing so in future Damon Seath ( talk) 18:14, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
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In my understanding, the problem was not complying with the Non free content policy. In your own words could you explain how you will avoid infringing this policy in future? PhilKnight ( talk) 19:03, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
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Basically by taking more care in reviewing the policy on each graphic/image/photo, and in ensuring that all requirements by Wikipedia are met in order to satisy the requirements. If you want me to sign this pledge in blood, fine.
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Hello Is it possible to have the "Australian Flag Proposal by Dean Thomas.gif" transfered to wikimedia commons? Regards.-- Io Herodotus ( talk) 21:15, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hi there, I am interested in finding and uploading to the wiki as many city and county flags/seals in Arkansas as possible, and it seems you may have a similar interest. Do you have any resources that could help me? If I am totally wrong, feel free to ignore me. Brandonrush ( talk) 00:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
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