Awesome re-working of the Milo page. Of course, you know that I, particularly, would appreciate that. Not that it's a big issue, but I guess you thought it wasn't Wikipedia-worthy to mention her having the last 9.95/higher at a Worlds? In any event, keep rockin'!!! Miloluvr ( talk) 15:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
As you say, you've been up to improving various gymnastics articles. Awesome job! I've done some work on the dominant teams and nations portion of the artistic gymnastics entry, adding Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Italy and doing minor-to-moderate edits elsewhere within that sub-page. If you have any suggestions, please let me know. I was also thinking of adding at the end of every apparatus description on that article a brief list of noteworthy champions/innovators on each event, e.g: "Balance Beam writeup: blablablablabla. blablablablabla. Notable beam innovators and champions include: Eva Bosakova, Daniela Silivas, Yang Bo" (all would be hyperlinked, of course, and limited to about 5 names for each apparatus). What do you think about that?
Cheers and Best. :) Miloluvr ( talk) 03:00, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I just joined. I don't know that I deserve to be a member of it, but I really thank you for the suggestion and we'll see how it goes. I like your suggestion about having templates/footers for Olympic and World Champions on various events, but, haahaaa, that would take a nice little bit of work, you realize. I did that one just for the Men's AA (World, I think) and it took me *forever* because the code was complicated and I didn't want to mess it up. Plus there's the research that I actually have to do myself, plus getting diacritical marks right, etc. But I think that I should do it and I'll be excited to do it if you think it's really worthwhile! By the way, it was a humongous ego boost to see that my Yuri Korolev article was rated "B Class" - one of only 20 something (out of more than 1000) gymnastics articles to be honoured so. Although I am shocked that Nelli Kim's article got rated as a Featured article as it isn't really that long, nor does it have pictures - ??? Anyway, here's my little emoticon and signature ---> :) Miloluvr ( talk) 09:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Another "by the way". I was wondering if you would mind either e-mailing me (my wikipedia user name at yahoo dot com) or Facebooking me (if you use facebook, then you can find me by using my just-specified e-mail address), because it would be easier to communicate that way, especially via facebook, about the things that we want to do with gymnastics on Wikipedia. Maybe we should create a Gymnastics Wikipedians on Facebook group (assuming one hasn't already been made)? Cheers again, Miloluvr ( talk) 09:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
The reason I put in the "Mum and Dad" expression was a means of emphasizing the family feel of the comic and how much the kids are devoted to their parents even though they are keeping such a secret from them. I know that wikipedia is supposed to be a serious project, but it is becoming a bit too much for my liking, with a lot of the "fun" element being taken out. I had a few problems with another guy when he took out a lot of info I had provided for another series, and a certain User:David Fuchs is taking out a lot of revealing info provided by me and others, which some might find interesting, from Marvel 1602. Wikipedia is a becoming somewhat less enjoyable nowadays.-- Marktreut ( talk) 22:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, you can't blame me for trying.-- Marktreut ( talk) 21:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello, DanielEng. You are listed as a member of WikiProject Gymnastics, but the project is listed as inactive, so I am contacting you personally on your talk page.
I have been bold and created an infobox for gymnastics biographical articles. I would appreciate any and all feedback on it, including changes and corrections. I took the basic fields from the FIG profiles and the one on the Nastia Liukin article, as well as pulling ones from other athlete infoboxes. I tried to be as thorough as possible, but I'm sure that I've left some things out. :) I have put together some samples of how the infobox currently looks at User:Kolindigo/Gymnastics Infobox Test.
I would like to start implementing the infobox on gymnastics biographies in about a week to give it time to settle in and get the kinks knocked out before the Olympics. Please come by, take a look, and make any changes you think would help. Kolindigo ( talk) 05:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I've nominated Age controversies in gymnastics, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on June 28, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, Kolindigo ( talk) 01:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
-- BorgQueen ( talk) 21:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
In addition, it is also one the "did you know..." statements listed on Portal:Gymnastics which I've recently set up. -- ratarsed ( talk) 16:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
No problem, it's my pleasure. I share your frustration at the repeated "fixes" to make it "All-Around". For reference, do you recall where there was a discussion about why names of Olympic events are not capitalized in article titles (except for proper nouns like Greco-Roman)? I think it was in the Olympic project. Thanks, PhilipR ( talk) 05:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree with you on the image. I just picked one to get rid of the copyvio. Calebrw ( talk) 01:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
(ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=He_Kexin&diff=235781291&oldid=235781101) I don't see Minister Cui's statement, nor IOC president Rogge's statement as "already in the article". After you rm neither fact exists in the article. Please put them back. Bobby fletcher ( talk) 10:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, DanielEng. I am writing here not because I want to vandalise or argue or something like that. you can deleted my comments here after reading this. I just wanna tell you that I don't understand the rules here. I don't know what is 3RR and when I found that my account is disabled and I just open another one. I have no intention to break any rules. You said I caused trouble during the discussion on Deng, but I never did any edits on Deng's page or any others because I tried to follow the rules here and I just wanted to discuss it and present my arguments on only the talk page. For the chinese sources, I discussed with you first before adding them because again, I didn't want to break any rule, that is why I asked first. But all of a sudden I was informed that they needed to be erased after all those research and difficult translation I did. And no one ever offered me any help but just deleting them. Those chinese sources are really all respectable and verified sources from respectable chinese media (some of them are from sohu, yahoo china.) and those news are widely covered by the media in China. And again, I tried my best to follow the rules by adding original texts to the footnotes and that is hard work. All I did was just try to give more information to Jiang's page on her career and personal life and they are not even under any controversy. For instance, her gymnastics career would be more informative if you know that from the point that she started gymnastics to the point she entered the national team. I really think that is much better than the current writing which is not very detailed at all. I might be a very stubborn person but I just want to let you know that I argued but I did try very hard to follow the rules here. I am new here and may not understand all the acronyms that all the editors gave me and it seems that I don't really understand the wikipeida's rules. Anyway, I really hope that you are what you said you are that you are not biased. If you really wanna talk back. email me tinbin@she.com. Regards Tinbin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.49.41.96 ( talk) 10:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, DanielEng. I did and will try my best to follow the rules. For last time I write on your talk page without login in, I would like you to see this info from NBC Olympics website on Jiang. http://www.nbcolympics.com/athletes/athlete=686/bio/index.html. It has information on Jiang which is very similar to my writings. Tinbin
From NBC website: Jiang began her gymnatics training at age four and was taken to Guangxi Sports Training School a few years later. After one year training in that school, Jiang was picked for the Guangxi Gymnastics Team. However, the coaches there sent her back to the training school one month later because they didn't think Jiang was strong enough.
My version: Li Ning's cousin was Jiang's neighbour when she was little. After noticing that the little Jiang Yuyuan was very energetic for a little kid, he suggested Jiang's parents to take her to gymnastic lessons. And her parents took his suggestion and enrolled Jiang in gymnastic classes before she was four. She was once selected by the Guangxi Provincial Team to participate in a three-month training camp but her parents received a call from the Provincial Team asking them to bring Jiang home less than two months after the training began. Her coach at that time insisted that Jiang has talent and persuade Jiang's parents to leave Jiang under her care and she would train Jiang personally. But it would be an dead end for a gymnast's career in China if one could not join the Provincial Team, so when opportunity came, Jiang was transferred from Guangxi to join the Zhejiang Provincial Team.
From NBC website: When she's not in the gym, Jiang enjoys listening to American and European pop music, reading magazines and watching tennis. She's also an avid photographer and a fan of Chinese hurdler Liu Xiang.
My version: Jiang has a keen interest in digital gadgets, especially digital cameras. She also loves sport cars, reading magazines on fashions, cosmetics and digital gadgets, listening to western pop music and taking photographs of the others.
From NBC website: At age five, Jiang saw her dad in the stands of a competition, and she fell off the beam. Now, Jiang doesn't let her parents watch her compete in person because she says it makes her too nervous.
My version: When Jiang was five, she fell from the Balance Beam when she saw her parents watching her from the grandstand at a junior gymnastics competition. After that, she never let her parents watch her compete.
NBC even has the part about Jiang being the assistance captain of the team, which I knew but forgot to include in the my writing.
I put this down not because of arguments but asking for help. I hope that you can, under Wikpedia rules, help me to prove that those Chinese sources are indeed verifiable and reliable , and that even NBC has the similar information (actually, I suspect they translated from the same sources that I used). Thanks. See you on Jiang's talk page later. From Tinbin.
I want to add some information to Jiang Yuyuan's Gymnastics career Section, like the year she transferred to the National Team and how her elbow injury affecting her performance in the Vault competition as claimed by her coach. The sources are all in Chinese. Does Wikipedia accept Chinese sources?
Tinbin (
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07:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey again, buddy (if I may call you that). I just got through (it took remarkably little time to do it once I got all my ducks in a row) creating footers for all individual event champions at the World Championships for Women's Artistic Gymnastics. It will take more work to add them to all the appropriate gymnast bio pages which is why I am writing you first. Some questions:
If your response is overall pretty positive, then I'll do the men, also. However, seeing that they have 6 events (as compared to the women's 4 events), their championships extend back to 1903 (instead of 1934), and I'm less familiar with them (making sure I get names right w/ diacritical marks and finding pre-existing pages for them if they exist), it will be twice the work or maybe even more, which is why the women were a trial run.
Also, I have never found evidence that EFs were awarded for women in 1934 and there is conflicting data for 1938. I can't seem to get on the FIG website to verify either, therefore I am leaving them blank for now.
Here are the templates for your easy reference (you can proofread/check if you want - HAAHAA):
Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsWomenVault Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsWomenUnevenBars Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsWomenBalanceBeam Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsWomenFloorExercise
Please let me hear from you. I hope you're doing well.
Best,
Miloluvr ( talk) 16:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Voila! Done during my down time at work today!
* Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsMen’sFloorExercise * Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsMen’sPommelHorse * Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsMen’sStillRings * Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsMen’sVault * Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsMen’sParallelBars * Template:NavigationWorldChampionsArtisticGymnasticsMen’sHorizontalBar
As I said before, if you also want to help post these, then please do it in backwards olympic order.
We're gonna rock this project, baby!!! Miloluvr ( talk) 21:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, I added the templates, just because I wanted the glory of doing so, to the male gymnasts who have won the most of each of the 6:
Vitaly Scherbo,
Boris Shakhlin,
Dmitry Bilozerchev, and
Akinori Nakayama. If you help out and you want to make it easier on yourself, just copy and paste from Scherbo, because he is the only one who has all 6, and delete what each gymnast doesn't need.
Lotsa red, too. :(
Cheers,
Miloluvr ( talk) 21:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Me, yet again. I made sure that all of the existing pages for world and Olympic individual champions for women and all world champions for men had all appropriate footers/templates on them. I still have to double-check men's olympic champions. Thanks so much for your help and encouragement with this.
It doesn't seem like the wikigroup is very active. Maybe if I posted there what I've posted to you lately, it would have gotten a response - ? It's just that I trust your judgment...
Anyway, I was wondering where things should go from here. I do have some ideas.
Just let me know what you think when you have a chance. You are free to copy anything I say, of course, to the wikigroup, and bring it up there.
Cheers, Miloluvr ( talk) 19:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Daniel,
I edited the Nastia Liukin page to include her Russian Orthodox beliefs, but I am not sure how to reference it. I know you added to that topic on her talk page, so maybe you have your own, different reference? Would you mind adding it to the article? I already added the information under the "Family" section, but feel free to edit it if you can say it in a better way. Thanks!
Ken Kenneth971 ( talk) 21:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Please poke me if he does it again, I'll protect the article :). -- lucasbfr talk 07:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)