Re your comments at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts#User:Hopiakuta, I would appreciate it if this was taken further. I took the issue to the administrators' noticeboard as suggested, and the discussion was closed as resolved with no further action taken - my request that redress regarding the personal attacks the user engages in regularly was left unanswered before the entire discussion was archived. I would support someone else taking this to a higher level, as I don't know how to do it myself. -- Roleplayer ( talk) 01:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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tag will not do you much good. The users who respond to this tag are best at helping with "newbie" questions, editing help, and simple edit conflicts. Many of the actions you have already suggested would be a better way to go (admin notification per
WP:AN/I or a
WP:RFC). You may also want to try a
IRC channel for more immediate attention. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. If you feel that another editor may respond better than I, please feel free to re-add the {{helpme}}
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07:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)I disagree. The purpose of WP:ANI isn't to deal with incivility. Addhoc ( talk) 22:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
His actions here were highly inappropriate. [2]
I attempted to restore your comments, but was reverted. I started a thread, "Please stop removing comments," but I suspect that will be reverted also.
If you would like to issue an RFC on the matter at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct, I would support you. ☯ Zenwhat ( talk) 22:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
FYI we don't really close or archive WQA threads unless they get out of hand and need a firm "Thread Closed" indicator. We just let MiszaBot do it really. -- Cheeser1 ( talk) 07:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey Daniel. In trying to sort through the recent kerkuffle originating at WQA, I ended up writing a fairly lengthy post. I hope it clarifies a few things. (It may already be clear to you, but I figured I should send around a few links to people involved or semi-involved.) You may wish to see my remarks at Zenwhat's talk page: (talk page section) (diff). -- Iamunknown 00:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on the Aoife Hoey (bobsleigh) article. I really appreciate it. Chris ( talk) 23:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to say "thank you" again for your help and your encouragement. It's great to see other knowledgeable and passionate gymnastics fans on here doing their part to help the presence of gymnastics on Wikipedia. If you check my user page, you can see all the things I've done (hyperlinked-to near the bottom) and either add to them or judiciously edit them or make suggestions or what have you. I've been fairly active lately. You can also check out my contributions history and see just how insane I've been with all of my nitpicky edits and re-edits and re-edits of my own and other people's articles and sections of articles, et. al. Miloluvr ( talk) 03:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey! Thanks for your kind words on my talk page, again. At first, I didn't understand what you meant about the World Champion thing - I was wondering what I had done wrong and where. But I saw what you did (to Voronina) - you removed the "World Champion" tag for her. Actually, I often copy and paste the tags from one to the other, making sure I get the countries and categories right, but this one slipped my attention. *eek* But, yes, of course, I would never intentionally call somebody a "world champion" unless they had gotten an individual medal. Also, about the World Cup - well, I kind of disagree. Because the FIG has been so inconsistent for so long, we have trends like the cessation of world cups and introduction of individual-only world championships in the 90s, the re-introduction of the world cups later again, and it gets to be madness. When they had finally (for about a decade) decided on a regular cycle for World Cups (why oh why couldn't they stick to it)?, it ended up being the biggest worldwide competition on even-numbered non-olympic years (e.g....'82, '86, '90). I have no issue with the others that you mention being in the medal table, but I find that the importance of the World Cup and how competitive it truly was justifies it being there. Plus, I think that a lot of it, especially in this case, is little, if any, more than a semantics debate. But then again, I certainly doubt that this is the end of this discussion, and this is Web 2.0 after all, so we shall see, and perhaps I shall be the one to acquiesce.
In any event, thank you again for all of your kind words. My intention is to create pages for each of the about 100 most decorated individuals (100 men, 100 women) at the World/Olympic level, in history, with some consideration to European successes. I was looking at the men, though, and OH MY GOSH, they need a TON of work. Bilozerchev (THE BILOZERCHEV) has only a very tiny stub, Sawao Kato (greatest male olympian gymnast ever?) is completely absent, as well as Korolev, and so many others. So, there is still a lot of work to do.
Still, if there are any suggestions you can come up with, please send them my way.
Oops. Forgot to sign the above. Here I am, mere seconds after, correcting that. Miloluvr ( talk) 20:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I was also wondering what you think about ordering in the medal tables. I know that often, all the Golds are listed first. However, I think it's more revealing to show things by year and then by olympic order. That way, a sort of progression or regression can be shown, via a timeline. People can easily see the gold, silver, and bronze because of the colouring. I know there's also the chart at the bottom of a few pages, but that's not as visible, and it's a little unnecessary and repetetive and more work, imo. Plus, that's what references and external links are for and I don't know that Wikipedia is supposed to have an exhaustive entry for everybody. But then again, some people may argue my adding people like Bosakova, Lazakovich, and others I will add later. Just wanted to know what you think about all of this. Miloluvr ( talk) 20:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
OMGOMGOMG!!! I just saw what you did to my Alternate Olympics - Gymnastics page. I. LOVE. YOU!!! That is bloody AWESOME!!! I didn't look at it incredibly thoroughly, so in accordance with the vision I had for it, I might want to discuss with you some possible changes, but then again, there might not be any I'd want to make. Anyway, THIS IS BLOODY AWESOME!!! Thank you so much!!! I have also done some looking around at other stuff that needs to be done, especially for MAG, and it is a nightmare. LOL! Again, YOU ROCK THE WORLD!!! Miloluvr ( talk) 18:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
For your viewing pleasure, what may be my all-time masterpiece creation (dunno if I'll evver top it): Yuri Korolev. Also, if you look at his page as well as the one you made for Ivan Ivankov, you will notice that I added a footer which exists for the women and should exist for the men, also. Later, I will go back and add it to all other relevant Male World Gymnastics All-Around Champion Bio Pages. Miloluvr ( talk) 22:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
After an exchange with a hostile fellow editor that's left me too dispirited to return for awhile, I've just made a tentative step back in, and saw your supportive comments at Wikipedia:WQA#Talk-page flaming and insults about me and about my attempts at etiquette toward that editor. I just want you to know how much I appreciate in general your volunteering the time to help people on that page, and in particular for kind words about my efforts. It means a lot to me, to know that the time and work I put in, out of love for the topic and a journalist's sense of duty toward accuracy and perspective, finds some appreciation and acknowledgment among other editors. Thank you, Daniel. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 00:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
And thank you for letting me know. Best, Dahn ( talk) 11:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know too. -- AdrianTM ( talk) 15:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you have a valid e-mail address? Care to e-mail me if possible? Seicer ( talk) ( contribs) 06:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Why do you think I am a sockpuppet? I was reading the PowerPuff Girls page, when I saw the discussion page. I really didn't know what a discussion page was, so I checked it out. When I saw Treelo, I thought of the pokemon treeko, I went to see if there was any connection. But when I read his page, I saw that he was kinda nasty. So, I kept reading, looking for Treeko, and I found out how mean this guy was. So I went to the wikipedia page and told them about it. The C. Leader ( talk) 18:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Uh maby I read the rules. Besides, I already said that I thought that user was named after the pokemon. Also, you can't just say that I am a sockpuppet. Get evidence. And I have no clue why my name is on sockpuppet list. Wow, if I had known that Wikipedia was this bad, I would never had joined.
The C. Leader (
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21:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Have you not noticed User:Martinphi's Wikiproject involvement? I highly doubt that there can be any reasoned discussion, given that, with the exception of you and me, are polarized on both sides of the dispute -- one side actively promotes the fringe theory, the other disputes it. seicer | talk | contribs 05:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)