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It's the opt-in page protection, which was responding to actual vandalism, as shown by
[1]. That user was getting slammed by vandals, and the bot was responding by short term protection of the page. I think it's a great bot and a great feature. Chris, when you read this, can you add me to the opt-in list? --
Terrillja talk05:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
How so? Blocking individual users is obviously not a feasible option here. Letting them vandalize as long as they want is likewise not an option - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a troll playground. They do not stop until either gwp goes to bed and stops to turn up the related message board thread or the targeted page is protected; the actual question is when to protect and how long. Since they do not stop by themselves, protection is necessary anyway, and there's no advantage in awaiting 10 edits each time, so protection is best done early to save the one or other coordinated vandalism edit. The bot's protection length is short enough to avoid collateral damage, I'm not aware of any user that wanted to leave me a message but wasn't able to do so due to the protection. The bot also makes longer protections unnecessary, because you know that it will re-protect the page in case the attack spree resumes and helps to reduce the time the page is protected to the necessary one, so reducing collateral. All in all the bot handles the situation better than a human would do. --
Oxymoron8307:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
It's simply a PITA for an admin to sit there and keep watching for vandalism, while a bot has no trouble just sitting there and watching for a very specific bit of wording. GRAWP has a very specific message that he always includes, so the bot is unlikely to make a mistake. This task is just as the bot template is written, the bot performs tedious tasks that would be a pain for people to do. Since it only reacts to certain well defined and historically known triggers, I don't see where the problem is. --
Terrillja talk17:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm talking about the protection. If the protection is being done in response to this "very specific bit of wording", why isn't the user being blocked instead? If it isn't, what gives the bot the authority to decide whether or not to protect the page? --
Gurch (
talk)
17:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
It does both. It blocks if the trigger phrases are met (from what I have seen) and then protects if there is enough vandalism to keep the user away. Keep in mind that in the instance of a grawp or 4chan attack, blocking users is ultimately futile, it's like whack a mole, protection is the only real way to make them go away. --
Terrillja talk17:24, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't have the time nor do I want to argue about this. I've disabled the protection feature. However any admin is free to fully or partly revert, I couldn't care less. Also Gurch, thank you for the tip about my edit notice --
Chris09:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
AntiAbuseBot
OMG adminbot! I raised an idea at
AN which would prevent any false positive fiasco. In short, that would be having the bot still blocking the way it does now, but templating the talk page with an unblock request. That way, we can be sure someone had a look at the block. What do you think? --
lucasbfrtalk17:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Here about the bot, so under the same heading, but different subject. Basically, earlier I reviewed one of the block requests it posted(great idea by the way, and a positive block), and noticed that the page is not added to cat:temp, which means it means it won't get deleted in a month. Any possibility of having the bot add the cat when it adds the unblock notice? Cheers--
Jac16888Talk21:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Chris, would it be possible for the bot which feeds edits to bot-related pages into the #wikipedia-BAG IRC channel to ignore bot edits, or at least the edits of my bot
User:Bot0612? The reason I am asking is that otherwise
this task will end up flooding the channel! Richard061219:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed you replaced some pages moved by new user
Vil Adanrath (
talk); the activity looks like that of a banned user who was (I think) originally called
Grawp, but I don't know how to report it; any ideas?
Swanny18 (
talk)
15:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Please note that I have corrected the information on the Commons image. You might want to review it and update the local copy.
Jappalang (
talk)
06:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
There has been a little discussion about Grawp socks and the deletion of their talkpages. Your bot suggests to place the {{blockeduser}} template which does not include the temporary userpage category. possibly suggesting {{indefblockeduser}} would be better.
Agathoclea (
talk)
08:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
No just debugging. One of wikimedia's new squids was being stupid and giving me '417 Expectation Failed' errors.
Chris01:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Hee. I reviewed the block you were testing, saw your characteristic Hagger message, and passed it on without a second thought. Then... 'Hey, he unblocked himself? Hagger's learned a pretty neat new trick... huh?' -
FisherQueen (
talk ·
contribs)01:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
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