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Hi, DeNoel, please don't needlessly alter piped links as you did here at BDSM when the original redirect link was correct and working. Also, please don't needlessly add a piped link as you did here; redirects are part of the encyclopedia, and have various advantages. See WP:NOTBROKEN and WP:NOPIPE. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 19:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
|last1=
or |last=
), and so on as in
this one. See
WP:CITEVAR. Thanks,
Mathglot (
talk)
20:23, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you,
Kevo327 and
MarnetteD. I normally replace bare URLs with citation templates if I'm able to do so, rather than tagging them for someone else. It was late, and I was heading to bed. I very much appreciate that you completed the task for me. —
Christopher, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
22:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Seeing as you've edited International Bureau of Weights and Measures before, would you care to close/summarize this RfC? Apparently me stating the obvious has less weight than an uninvolved third-party. Thank you. Getsnoopy ( talk) 23:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello, DeFacto. As your own talk page is very populated, I'll bring this side-discussion here to my own talk page. I see that you are strongly contesting the exclusion of the initialism IBWM from the International Bureau of Weights and Measures article. I've brought you here to share with you my own similar experience.
Article Mustard gas, which is a misnomer for the chemical sulfur mustard because by definition, it is not a "gas". There was a discussion about moving the article Sulfur mustard → Mustard gas. I strongly contested the proposed move, but I was up against Wikipedia titling policies, and had exhausted all my arguments.
I lost the argument, but I gave it all I could. The relationship is that you appear to be standing on your own with the initialism IBWM, but you have argued strongly for what you believe, and I think these things go underappreciated. Thank you —
Christopher, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
20:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Your custom signature appears to violate the first policy/guideline constraint expressed at WP:CUSTOMSIG/P. I suggest renaming your user account if you want to keep that signature. — BarrelProof ( talk) 17:31, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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I recently performed some cleanup of the
Module:Wikitable (hyphenated template parameters, etc). I noticed that there is Lua code that appears at the bottom of the page, just below the transcluded documentation. I do not know how to make this code invisible to the casual viewer (if it is even possible).
My tests (adding
Template:Noinclude) performed in Preview mode produces...
... and breaks the table on the right side of the module page. I do not wish to proceed without instructions, so as to avoid disrupting the module. Is it possible for the Lua code to be hidden from view, but still functional, and how?
—
Christopher, Sheridan, OR (
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08:21, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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I felt it would be more appropriate to ask this question here on my own Talk page, than the article in question's Talk page. When viewing the Source text for the English Wikipedia article
Gravity of Earth, at the very bottom of the Source is: [[eo:Gravita akcelo]]
I have examined the English article, and couldn't see anything obvious that should indicate what this Esperanto Wikipedia link does for the English article. I'm sure there's a reason why it's there—I've used inter-language Wikipedia links—but I'm at a loss for how this specific instance works. Is it possibly a remnant from a copy-over by a previous editor, in which case should I delete it? — Christopher, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 11:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Your custom signature violates the first policy/guideline constraint expressed at
WP:CUSTOMSIG/P: A customised signature should make it easy to identify your username
.
You sig as used in this edit [1] is encoded as:
<span class="nowrap">— [[User:DeNoel|Christopher, Sheridan, OR]] ([[User talk:DeNoel|talk]]) 16:33, 24 May 2021 (UTC)</span>
which renders as:
That sig provides no visible clue to your username.
You have been warned about this before, in March 2021 I suggest renaming your user account if you want to keep that signature. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 17:06, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
A customised signature should make it easy to identify your usernameis unclear or ambiguous?
Do not follow an overly strict interpretation of the letter of policies without consideration for their principles. If the rules truly prevent you from improving the encyclopedia, ignore them.
truly prevent you from improving the encyclopedia?
<span class="nowrap">(signature)</span>
work properly in my Preferences, and I am keen to learn how to sign without having to manually append <span class="nowrap">
every time I sign.
 
on music articles to separate a final apostrophe from a quotation mark. I will add it to my signature in due course. Adding <span class="nowrap">
(signature)</span>
is where I've been having issues. The tests I performed previously have not prevented word wrapping of my signature, so I've been using it manually until I figure out how to make it work in my Preferences (before the complaint with WP:SIGNATURE was raised, which is a separate issue that I won't broach upon you). —
Christopher, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
03:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 
, which is even thinner than  
(maybe too thin). —
BarrelProof (
talk)
04:06, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
' 
". Anyhow,
Alive! and
Destroyer were better, in my opinion. —
BarrelProof (
talk)
06:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
between the em dash and the rest of my signature (as shown in the comment much further up). Would this work between my User name and Talk page link to prevent word wrapping my signature? I think I've previously tried this, but overused by trying to include it within the link labels themselves. —
Christopher, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
04:31, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
~~~~
could be made to display the month as three letters?Christopher
for a username would work, either; I'm willing to bet that it's too common to be my username alone.I think I've got the signature wordwrap issue fixed, though the timestamp likely will still wordwrap, which can't be helped (probably the same issue I tried to resolve before, but couldn't). A compromise, using html NBSP code in Preferences rather than manual adding html SPAN code in the Talk source. — Christopher, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 06:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
BrownHairedGirl, I'm afraid your argumentative, disrupting, self-serving attitude has extended well beyond the acceptable point. You could have asked to reopen the discussion on my talk page instead of being rude about it; that is why we're here—not because of the signature issue, it's your attitude. I must therefore request that you from henceforth, refrain from commenting to me on this matter. I will gladly listen to others with viewpoints that differ from my own. I do not welcome any further contact from you. May you have a sunny day tomorrow. — Christopher, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 08:24, 25 May 2021 (UTC) (archive linked 18:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC))
I have given the matter some thought. My conclusion is that if we agree to adjust the signature standard as suggested, then it should be done through community agreement. However, we should not allow individuals to enforce their own personal interpretation of WP:Signature; doing so would give individuals with no such position the freedom to walk all over anyone they choose.
I therefore have decided not to change my signature because of one sour grape. However, I will select an alternate signature ahead of time for use when the community decides it's time for such an adjustment. It has been suggested that I could keep my signature, but change my user name; I have not ruled out this option, but am not ready to change it yet (though I agree that doing so may be a good idea).
WP:DAPE—we're here to work towards the betterment of the project, not to drive editors away from it. — Christopher, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 08:43, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
I want an acceptable signature that I like, not one that is just acceptable.
I've decided that the best solution would be to change my username to something satisfactory that I can incorporate into my existing signature. The signature I'm planning will place my username at the beginning, and thus should satisfy the upcoming changes to
WP:SIGNATURE.
My change username request has been submitted; when it is accepted, I will change my signature.
—
Christopher, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
05:50, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Done: My new username was just approved. I have completed the changes to my signature. My full username now appears at the beginning of my signature. The overall length has been reduced by six characters. —
CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
16:52, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Based on the previous discussion, I'm interjecting at this time to stress a lack of civility in addressing concerns and replies. I'm going to take the above matter up with someone for evaluation. — Christopher, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 19:21, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is
User:DeNoel's sig. Thank you.
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20:24, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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I have made my request clear at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Discussion, and here on my Talk page, that I do not want to be contacted by User:BrownHairedGirl. That is not specifically what I'm asking for assistance with. I see that over at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions, is a section for Voluntary interaction bans. I feel that if I expect a user to abide by my requested Interaction ban, then I must also abide by the same.
I would like my name to be added to the Voluntary list, banning me from having direct interaction with User:BrownHairedGirl. I must not comment/reply on said user's Talk page. If we happen to be part of the same discussion, I must not reply directly to said user, nor will I 'thank' them for an edit.
If interaction becomes necessary or otherwise unavoidable, such as the lifting of a ban on one user, it does not give the second user permission to disregard their half of the ban. Example: If I lift my ban request against User:BrownHairedGirl, that will not give me permission to go to her Talk page to inform her of the status change—I must still abide by said ban. A third party will have to mediate to avoid violating the ban (i.e. leaving a message on a banned user's Talk page to notify them of lifting the ban).
Other forms of respecting the ban are also expected to be followed. If I need to, I can refer to a conversation in which User:BrownHairedGirl was involved, but I should avoid directly calling them by name in a contentious manner, e.g. saying "(username) is a blight", is unacceptable, among other forms of incivility.
I intend to abide by the above as part of my request to be added to the Voluntary ban list. Let me know if other restrictions apply.
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Christopher, Sheridan, OR (
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18:51, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Rename from "DeNoel" to "CJDOS" per request -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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I have noticed that this unsigned edit on the Template talk:Service award progress appears to be off-topic. Visiting the editor's user page, it appears that the only purpose of this addition was to post game standings, and the infobox is unrelated to the discussion of the template. I'm a little uncertain as the best way to handle this. I believe outright reverting the edit would be acceptable in this case (but I should tread carefully with such reversions). I see that Template:Off-topic talk is also an option, but I'm uncertain if it would be appropriate in this case. What would you suggest I do? Should I notify said user on their Talk page about their off-topic inclusion? — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 06:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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I have an unusual circumstance, and I'm not sure how it fits into
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion#How to list pages for deletion. Someone has created a User talk page for me at
https://hif.wikipedia.org/wiki/sadasya_ke_baat:CJDOS. I have not previously contributed to
Fiji Hindi Wikipedia, and likely won't as it is not in a language I have interacted with. When I contribute to the Fiji Hindi Wikipedia, then my User talk page may be created.
Until then, I do not authorize that page's creation, and I hereby request its un-creation.
Thank you for your assistance; please outline the procedure for requesting the un-creation of a nonnative language inter-Wikipedia User talk page, in case I have need to un-create one in future.— CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 21:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC).
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Hello. As I did not find a primary template to post this question, I'll ask it here. Recently, I posted a warning on an unregistered user's Talk page regarding unproductive edits, using {{ subst:Uw-vandalism1}} because it was on the little chart I initially came across ( WP:WARNVAND). I noticed that when I had applied this template, it added {{ Z186}} to the source.
Shortly after, I discovered the table of user warning templates. I felt that {{ subst:Uw-subtle1}} would be more appropriate to the incident, and so I swapped the templates. I then noticed in the source that a Z template wasn't added to the user warning subtle template for vandalism, of which are not listed in the Z template list.
Is this intentional, or would it be appropriate to add the subtle warning templates to the list? What exactly does this Z list do? I read the doc, but don't really understand it. Is it a form of record keeping, so that an admin for instance, could verify that in the event of a second incident, that user had previously been warned? Thank you for clarifying this. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 10:13, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Template:Z208 has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the entry on the Templates for discussion page.
Mathglot (
talk)
21:13, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you,
Pppery, for your assistance regarding the Tfd tag on
Template:Z number documentation, which is transcluded on all the Z-number templates nominated for deletion. I only copied the tag by the substitution {{
subst:Tfd}}
and added the |heading=
parameter, so if part of the substitution wasn't quite right, I apologize. I didn't look into the parameters of the original
Tfd template, I only copied over what the instructions on the discussion page said to. —
CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
01:43, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
I'll discuss this on my talk page,
Wbm1058.
I just got the notification. It took me a couple of minutes to catch up with what was being communicated in the
requestedmoves.php edit and the
RM relist edit. I didn't know that the bots have a copy of the template's source as part of their programming. I didn't think that adding a
non-breaking space to
Template:RM relist's source would have such an impact. I apologize for making things difficult. The nbsp was needed, but if I had realized how interwoven the template was, I would have said something. I am sorry. —
CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
05:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
<!-- Template:RM relist -->
between </small>
and <noinclude>
to the {{
RM relist}} source code?
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This question is about a technical issue regarding the creation of userboxes, involving unexpected results.
I hate to ask for help for something like this, but I'm at a loss. Let's start with my subpage User:CJDOS/Userboxes (a work in progress). If we look down at the Teams section, all the userboxes are tightly aligned. {{ User:UBX/MLB-AL}} is the only one of those that I created, and it's sitting by itself (not grouped).
Looking back up at Television, I thought the gap between the userboxes was due to {{ User:UBX/Are You Being Served?}} being a little bit larger than the default size. However, when performing test edits, I had added a couple of userboxes, and temporarly replaced the Are You Being Served? userbox with a different one. A gap below the userboxes is still present. One might think that this is normal, but section Teams says otherwise.
One of the userboxes that I've worked on and tried to include in a test edit (in preview mode only; no saved history), is {{ User edits to Wikipedia}}. This time, I noticed that whenever this userbox is the left one of the group, no gap, but when it's the right one in the group, the gap appears.
Something I've done to the userboxes that I've worked on, is causing a gap to appear below it when it is placed on the right side of an immediately adjacent userbox. Section Teams does not reproduce this error, not even when I put {{ User:UBX/MLB-AL}} into a group on the right side. I need to learn what I'm doing to cause this so I don't spread it to more userboxes. We can create a new subpage for tests, which will be deleted after the problem has been identified.
Thank you very much in advance for your assistance in identifying the problematic code. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 15:27, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
box-sizing
(
MDN), may be causing issues with the userboxes that have a border. By default, the border is added on to the width and height (so for example, if the width is set to 100px, border to 2px, the total width will be 102px). Setting box-sizing: border-box;
may give the behaviour you want. —
LauritzT (
talk)
18:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)<noinclude>
tags.Renders gap:
}} <noinclude> ... }}</noinclude> <noinclude>{{Sandbox other||
Removes gap:
}}<noinclude> ... }}{{Sandbox other||
— CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 21:56, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Help improve and copy edit. Thanks you. Kolpb ( talk) 09:29, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Enterprisey. I see that you are currently on vacation, and I hope you are having a safe and pleasant trip. I have been reminded that when I ping a user, and then edit the comment, the notification may not be sent. Unfortunately, I had done exactly that before being reminded; sorry. This brief comment is to let you know that I had left a message which is buried in your extensive talk page in § StatusChanger. It is of low-priorty when you get back, so no rush, but I was afraid it would go entirely unnoticed for the fore mentioned reasons. Thank you. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 04:46, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
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I wish to bring to somebody's attention a technical error I believe I've discovered regarding the image logs. In my Wikipedia user statistics at Xtools, is a column on the left hand side: "Pages", followed by "Files". Clicking on the Files uploaded (Commons)
number pulls up that log without issue. However, Clicking on the Files uploaded
number for Wikipedia files, pulls up a blank
log. This blank log contains the line:
"Deleted files are not shown here but are included in the
upload log."
The latter Wikipedia log shows all of my Wikipedia uploads—live and deleted—while the former Wikipedia log shows nothing at all? — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 01:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello. Article
EWI (musical instrument) has undergone some recent edits, which to me
reads like a promotion. In review, I felt that
Eboshakey's edits did not contribute to the article, and reverted them (checking each before deciding to revert all). Said user disagrees with my observations. In order to avoid an
edit war, I have declined from reverting again. I would like an uninvolved opinion on what improvements or changes to the article should be made. I have left a message on Eboshakey's
talk page regarding the inappropriate edit summaries left, and questionable article content.
Thank you for your assistance. —
CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (
talk)
11:09, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect
Bare URL and has thus listed it
for discussion. This discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Bare URL until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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A discussion is taking place at Template talk:Committed identity topicon#RfC 8 January 2022, which is best summarized by the Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Jan 2022#Committed identity topicon orientation request:
Among other uses, Crypto key.svg is being used as a top icon. Concerns have been raised at Template talk:Committed identity topicon#RfC 8 January 2022 that Crypto key.svg in its present orientation, should be displayed at 35 pixel in order to vertically match other top icons, e.g. Template:Extended confirmed topicon. Displayed as a top icon, Crypto key.svg in its horizontal orientation would be too difficult to see if reduced to 20 px. This has resulted in more concerns about the key being displayed at 35 px, horizontally longer than Template:Top icon's 20 pixel default. The general agreement is that a diagonal orientation is best suited for a key shaped image when used as a top icon, which will result in a top icon that is closer to the desired default size while being still visually identifiable. You are also invited to contribute to the fore mentioned discussion; thank you. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 12:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
While it seemed like an agreement was being reached, progress has stalled. I think it is clear that the current editors are not prepared for the technical requirements of submitting new svg images to be voted on. I'm using outdated hardware, because that's what I have available; I can't manipulate svg files.
I am writing:
Thank you for your assistance. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 11:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Handy Boy ad for original Game Boy.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (Oinkers42) ( talk • contribs) 21:44, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading File:Handy Boy ad for original Game Boy.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 20:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Billinghurst. Over at m:User talk:Praxidicae (history), you kindly deleted my unwanted bot-created Fiji Hindi user talk page. I've been notified a short time ago that it:Discussioni utente:CJDOS was created for me because I had viewed a link through a Wikidata page ( d:Q459403). I would like to ask for my Italian user talk page to be deleted, as I have not performed any edits to the Italian Wikipedia.
I really wish users would have a preference option to block bots from spawning user talk pages. When I haven't edited that language project, there's no reason for a bot to create a user talk page on my behalf. Where should I suggest such a Wikipedia global improvement? — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 04:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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I take your point and accept the reversion. Fair enough. But it was a good faith edit. Irrespective that there's an RM going on. The unfortunate correct spelling per WP:RS sources and real signage needs to be visible on the dab page. And probably all those pages need page protection from vandals. In ictu oculi ( talk) 07:49, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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Hello. I couldn't find an appropriate tag, or a page for nomination of File:Doom-boxart.jpg for deletion. To be clear, I am proposing the deletion of only the redirect, not the target. The redirect has only creation history (no move history), and no talk page; the target file doesn't need this redirect to it. {{ Proposed deletion}} reads like it applies to a file rather than a redirect to a file. The redirect seems to fall under WP:NOTCSD#14 of non-criteria for speedy deletion. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 19:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Spintendo. As this part of the conversation from Template talk:Anthropology of kinship#Edit request on 25 June 2023 is off-topic, I brought it here. Thank you for the compliments on my userboxes. I find the difficult part is the image licenses. I have some more userboxes in mind that I haven't got around to working on. My whole user page will eventually be redone, and I have a user-status light project in mind (see /sandbox). I work in retail outside of Wikipedia, so I don't have the dedicated time I need to devote to it. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 07:19, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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I recently received an alert that a message from HitomiAkane was left for me on my Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia talk page arz:User_talk:CJDOS, despite never having visited an Arabic Wikipedia. I'm getting tired of pages being spam-created for me on other Wikipedia language sites that I have not visited – neither logged in nor out. Who do I talk to about deleting the aforementioned talk page, but more importantly, how do I obtain the global account rights to block user/talk pages being created for me on any Wikipedia language without visiting that site?
I have served the offending user a cease and desist warning, but I feel the template used wasn't intended for this circumstance. I want the spam-creation of user talk pages globally squashed. Where do I submit such a proposal (and recommend creation of an appropriate warning template)?
Sites where I do have activity are currently listed at User:CJDOS#Antecedents. Please escalate/forward my complaint as necessary; thank you. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR ( talk) 08:34, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
You can argue semantics about visiting arzWP all you want. You can focus on the perceived problem, or you can focus on a possible solution. That is all up to you. A talk page is a talk page, nothing more. In the end it means nothing. As a grown-up, I will let you work it out, and there is no further need to include me in the conversation. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:38, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
"When there is no local admins, then the global sysops can lend limited support.
" That was the bit of information I needed; thank you. —
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