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Thanks a tonne for removing the US ratings from
Killer Camp's series page. When I first created the page it didn't include any of it, but then Some Dude From North Carolina came in and added the US ratings column and ratings table in Reception. I reverted the edit once but they just added it back. I haven't been editing for very long...so I reckoned that maybe there is some Wiki policy that allows US ratiings to be added to British shows that I'm unaware off, so I let it slide. I also wasn't really interested in starting an edit war. But it always felt weird to see American viewership data for a British show. They've done the same thing for
Fridge Wars.
TheRedDomitor (
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16:45, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
TheRedDomitor, yeah, no worries. There's been the odd editor here and there who always liked to add US details to a non-US series, including dates, ratings, etc. I think it's specifically because they started airing reruns on The CW for a lot of series, but that doesn't mean US ratings should be added; a very related discussion is at
Talk:Stargirl (TV series)#Viewers, where the consensus was to add broadcast ratings after being released through VOD, but only for that one series. I've done the same removals for
Fridge Wars, cheers. -- /
Alex/
2101:23, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Wish that was possible, but some reality series articles have shown that RS refer to the seasons as "X #", in this case "Big Brother 12" and not something like "The 12 season of Big Brother", which resulted in some reality articles with a disambiguation style like this. --
Gonnym (
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13:46, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Gonnym, then I'd say keep it as it is. The title of the season is Big Brother 22, and we are disambiguation it from other seasons as an American season, hence it makes sense to disambiguate it thus. My issue with the current format of NCTV is that typically we disambiguate it as "Show (season #)", but that indicates that the season is titled "Show" and we're disambiguating it from other media entries titled the same; it's not. But in this case, the title of the article is the title of the season. -- /
Alex/
2121:30, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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No. Double disambiguation should not be used when it's not necessary. "2010" does nothing to disambiguate those articles from any other. Disambiguation should be as precise as possible. -- /
Alex/
2100:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
The titles of the three Deltora Quest series (in Australia and North America respectively)
The titles "Deltora Quest 2: Shadowlands" and "Deltora Quest 3: Dragons of Deltora" are not correct. "Shadowlands" and "Dragons of Deltora" are, first of all, only used in North America. In Australia the books the three series were simply "Deltora Quest", "Deltora Quest 2", and "Deltora Quest" respectively. Secondly, "Shadowlands" and "Dragons of Deltora" were not subtitles in the North American releases but instead the main titles, with them not using "Deltora Quest" for those two series. And thirdly, the second series was "Deltora Shadowlands" and not simply "Shadowlands" in North America. --
Luka1184 (
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17:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
(cont'd) Furthermore, Cavern of the Fear is officially Cavern of The Fear with "the" being capitalised. The title refers to a monster that's called "The Fear" and not "the Fear" in the text. Sometimes this title has been wrongly written as "Cavern of the Fear" with a lowercase "the" in official and legal texts by Scholastic, including inside Deltora Quest books themselves, but not on the book's own title page, Emily Rodda's website (she does not list books anymore, but used to have a book list there), or at the top of every page from that specific book in the Deltora Quest 2 bind-up released by Scholastic. --
Luka1184 (
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17:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Luka1184, I listed them as such to save room in the navbox; listing the full titles stretches it beyond necessary. And "the" is correct per
MOS:CT; Wikipedia has its on policies on capitlization, which we follow. -- /
Alex/
2100:14, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Firstly, thanks for your accessibility edit to an episode list I created recently. It’s nice to know there’s a script to help with that! I noticed that the newer tablecolour script creates an edit summary that links to the infoboxcolour page. —
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00:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Cbuckley, no worries, glad to help! I've actually made 13 scripts I've made, you can find them at
User:Alex 21/Scripts, if any of them are something you need. Thanks for the heads up in regards to the link, I had no idea! That means it's been that way for over four years, my bad! -- /
Alex/
2100:22, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Episode table question
Alex, do you know if someone has changed the {{Episode table}} code recently? It used to be that you could just add |total_width= to tables, and they would "fit" automatically to page widths (e.g. would fit with Infoboxes). But as of a couple of days ago, you now need to do |total_width=auto to get the same effect... I'm wondering if this change was intentional, and if so, why. Thanks. --
IJBall (
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02:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
OK, yeah, that's interesting... But, yes, best-case scenario: "auto" would still work as "auto" (which I gather is what your recent change did(?)), but leaving the parameter blank would also default to "auto". Thanks! --
IJBall (
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02:42, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Yep, I just tested it an an article myself, and it's back to behaving the way it did before when you leave |total_width= blank. Thanks again! --
IJBall (
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02:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Agents of SHIELD
Hi, I noticed that in your favorite TV shows page, you put Agents of SHIELD. The show is now over, so it should go with Agent Carter, in the Gone, but not forgotten section. Also, big fan of AoS and AC as well. If you ever just want to "fan-chat" about the show, leave me a message on my talk page, we can chat over Discord.
PhilCoulson20 (
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15:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi there. I believe that the draft article
The Haunting (TV series) is ready to move into the mainspace. Bly Manor premieres very soon (few hours). Didn’t want to do it myself and wanted to clarify and make sure with another editor. Thanks.
KaitoNkmra23talk00:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Hey, sorry to bother you but I've noticed your knowledge about policies and convention in here, especially regarding the Television topic and was wondering if it's allowed to list, with reliable sources, titles, airdates and production staffs for upcoming episodes that have not yet been released because I'm having trouble with some user that claims that it is not. If it's allowed, what kind of convention or rule should I redirect them to prove it? They also claim that we should wait until the episodes aired on American platforms, even if it's about a Japanese anime. Many notable and reliable monthly anime Japanese magazines provide one month worth of episodes in advance, but only in the original language, so is it also allowed to use an unofficial provisionnal english title literaly translated from the Japanese one while waiting for the official english title from the licensed company? Because they usually do during the preview of the next episode. Thank you.
Closesophy (
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03:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Closesophy, your contribution history shows no edits to any articles; where are you having this trouble, and on what account are you making these edits? -- /
Alex/
2104:41, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry but I never used an account on Wikipedia, I just use my public IP to edit, I just made this account to contact you so you know that it's me when responding because my IP keeps changing everytime. I have this problem with a few articles but it would be nice indeed if you can look by yourself for example on
One Piece (season 20) which is one of them. This user doesn't seem to know that much about the source used here but on the other hand, he's not trying to understand it either and that's the problem most of the time since it's completely in Japanese, I've tried sourcing it as much as I can but it's not enough apparently, should I post a screenshot of the magazine? I don't think that would be okay since it's a paid magazine but I can if you need any details.
Closesophy (
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05:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Closesophy, I would recommend posting the same question to
WT:TV to get an answer from the community; I'm not overly knowledgeable in the area of anime. Cheers. -- /
Alex/
2101:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
I see, I don't think it would make a difference whether it's an anime or not since even the Anime and Manga WikiProject doesn't have a guideline or poilices about it and instead redirect to the Television WikiProject, they even recently updated their modules and templates to fit with what is done in here, anyway, will do thanks.
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21:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
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05:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hello. Can I talk to you? I tried to edit the page about Spyfall to make some corrections and it seems like you reverted them. I understand there seems to be some rules about how to edit a page. So I wanted to know why could I not edit. — Preceding
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Antoinejd: If you're saying that you're the logged-out IP who's edits I have recently reverted (note that editing while logged out while you own an account is highly frowned upon), I explained myself in my edits twice and pointed you to the note in the article that explains why. -- /
Alex/
2122:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
@
Alex 21: Yes that was me. But I'm not sure I understood your explaination. I don't exactly know how editing wikipedia works. I didn't use this account in a long time. Almost forgot I had one. Anyways, the name of the episodes were the wrong ones. I just wanted to correct them. — Preceding
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Antoinejd: The note states: In the case of differing titles between in-episode titles and official episode listings, WP:TV has always deferred to the official episode listings by the series' original broadcast network (i.e. the BBC's website episode guide). -- /
Alex/[User talk:Alex 21|21]]00:50, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
@
Antoinejd: Please indent and sign your posts correctly, I've told you how to on your user talk page. And not at all. Wikipedia prefers secondary sources (i.e. BBC episode guides) over primary sources (i.e. the episodes themselves). That's how Wikipedia has always run; you may disagree with it, but that's how it is. -- /
Alex/
2101:01, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
@
Alex 21: Sorry, still learning how this works. And I don't disagree with it, I just said it was weird. Anyways, thank you for your explanation. And for your help.
Antoinejd (
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01:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Big Finish Productions - The Eighth Doctor
Extended content
Hey Alex21. Whilst perusing The Eighth Adventures via BFP official webiste. It seems notable that they have incorporated Dark Eyes, Doom Coalition, Ravenous and Stranded all under the Banner of the eighth doctor adventures.
R2Mar, I've actually been thinking the same thing recently. Big Finish reorganized their website last year, and I've wondered if it's worth updating. The Eighth Adventures is one of these, but they also now have ranges for other Doctors that don't have separate series.
For example, The Fifth Adventures: "No Place Like Home" special, "Cuddlesome" from DWM, "Return to the Web Planet" from Bonus Releases, and The Fifth Doctor Box Set. They got rid of the Bonus Releases section, and heavily trimmed the Special Releases section, merging them into separate Doctor adventures releases. Six and Seven also have their own Adventure sections. -- /
Alex/
2100:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Alex 21 I still concur with the above. Things could be more concise. Especially with The Eighth Doctor. But how conise is concise? Where does should the line be drawn? Dalek Universe is more of a tricky point as its listed partly within The Fourth Doctor Adventures for the prologue and The Tenth Doctor thereafter.
R2Mar (
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10:42, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
R2Mar, yeah, that's why I reverted two splits of it (to 10DA and then on the parent BF article), since it really need to all be together. I can make a list of all the changes that would need doing, and see what we agree on. -- /
Alex/
2111:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
R2Mar, I've started the updates at
User:Alex 21/sandbox3. These are the updates I've found after going through Big Finish's website. (BR = Bonus Release, SP = Special Release, DWM = Doctor Who Magazine Release)
Add to The Fourth Doctor Adventures:
BR: Night of the Stormcrow
Dalek Universe prologue
Create and add to The Fifth Doctor Adventures:
SP: No Place Like Home
DWM: Cuddlesome
BR: Return to the Web Planet
SP: The Fifth Doctor Box Set (rename to The Fifth Doctor Adventures: Volume One)
Wicked Sisters
Create and add to The Sixth Doctor Adventures:
SP: The Ratings War
BR: The Maltese Penguin
BR: Real Time
BR: Her Final Flight
BR: Cryptobiosis
BR: Return of the Krotons
BR: Trial of the Valeyard
SP: The Sixth Doctor: The Last Adventure
The Sixth Doctor and Peri: Volume One
Create and add to The Seventh Doctor Adventures:
SP: Last of the Titans
BR: Return of the Daleks
The Seventh Doctor: The New Adventures: Volume One
Big Finish list the following changes as well, but these needs a debate. I think they should stick to where they are, as the first two are spin-off releases and the third has more than one volume:
"Jago & Litefoot: Voyage to Venus" and "Jago & Litefoot: Voyage to the New World" to "The Sixth Doctor Adventures"?
"UNIT: Dominion" to "The Seventh Doctor Adventures"?
Classic Doctors, New Monsters to Special Releases?
Alex 21 JLF V2V and New World. Only listed in 6DA, Unit Dominion is key to Doctor Who as well. Classic Doctors should move to Special Releases. As for the cast lists there was an expansive Dark Eyes cast. I limited it down to the key roles. Compare and see what you think.
R2Mar (
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12:18, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
R2Mar, looks good to me! Made a few formatting changes, and it looks like everything is transcluding to the main list properly. Still not sute about J&L though, as they're still entries to a spin-off and belong to another seires. And Classic Doctors, I'd agree with moving it, if there was only one volume, like how I moved Excelis. Given that there's two, it easily stands as its own series. -- /
Alex/
2112:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Alex 21 The main point now specifically across the board Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Seventh. Notability is going to need to be established. Any thoughts how we can cover this to meet
WP:N
R2Mar Summaries for each of the episodes would be beneficial, as well as a "Development" section on how each special and series came to be, perhaps? -- /
Alex/
2112:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Alex 21 Thought where casting is becoming complex with the lead characters ie. Fourth and Eight in particular. Would it be worth tabulating rather than listing some of the cast to span the series. Something like this?
Alex 21 Both T6DA and T7DA are getting flagged now mate. I don't know if you have any suggestions. Beginning to get concerned all this work may get deleted.
R2Mar (
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16:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
R2Mar, they just need expanding with more sources and content, that's all. If they are deleted, then we just included the tables at the main list page, no biggie. And that's probably the best table, but for 8DA, you could split the table into two, like how we have it at
List of Doctor Who cast members. -- /
Alex/
2100:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
While we're talking Big Finish, here's some details on how the spin-off releases are categorized. Not to say anything needs reorganizing, but just some notes.
Series: Class, Counter-Measures, Cyberman, Dalek Empire, Gallifrey, I, Davros, Jago & Litefoot, Sarah Jane Smith, The Diary of River Song, The Lives of Captain Jack, The New Counter-Measures, The Paternoster Gang, The Robots, The War Master, UNIT, UNIT: The New Series,
Special releases: "The Worlds of Doctor Who", "The Eighth of March", "Masterful", The Churchill Years, Tales from New Earth, Jenny: The Doctor's Daughter, Lady Christina, Missy, Rose Tyler: The Dimension Cannon, Donna Noble: Kidnapped!, Susan's War, Master!, The Lone Centurion
Catergorized separately outside of Doctor Who and its spin-offs: Charlotte Pollard, Graceless, Vienna, Torchwood, Bernice Summerfield, Iris Wildthyme
Catergorized as a Doctor Who release and not a spin-off: The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield
Alex 21 A quick note on your thoughts. With most ranges recieving tabulated cast lists. How do you feel an approach should be taken to Torchwood's overcomplicated cast structure?
R2Mar (
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01:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
It's definitely more complicated, since with 4DA and 8DA, we just add columns for new releases to the end, given that the previous releases have concluded, but here, we'll need to add new columns within the table. Definitely for S7 of the Main Range next year, possibly for further seasons of TWO and TSC, and if SCJ and TSP ever get a second season then we'll need to convert them to their own headers like TWO and TSC, outside of Specials. But for now, this would do nicely. -- /
Alex/
2103:18, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I might just be missing something so just asking since I don't deal with Netflix shows a lot - when Netflix states a premiere date do we automatically assume that all episodes release on that date? Just from everything I've read it says that it will premiere on Jan 8th not that all episodes will release on that date. I know Netflix has had other release schedules than releasing all at once. Thanks!
TheDoctorWho(talk)05:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
In my testing for transclusion options for the MCU TV table, I notice that for when we need to separately code What If season 2 (presumably on a Phase Five article), {{Series overview}} will not have the color show up in the row if we start with the season 2 parameters. See below for what I mean. Can that be fixed? -
Favre1fan93 (
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02:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
@
Alex 21: Great thanks! Is the issue fixed for all seasons that are not 1 as well (so say if we start with 3 or 4 and don't have the network)? And yeah, presumably there will be another series before What If season 2, and if not, we'll put the network in that row. :) -
Favre1fan93 (
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18:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Favre1fan93, yep, should be! Before it was counting seasons from 1 to the number of rows included (which was also 1, so it couldn't even count to color2); now it counts from 1 to the highest numbered season (in this case 2, or 3 or 4 in a future case). -- /
Alex/
2122:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Favre1fan93, while I've got you here, the Forbes referenced used for WandaVision's finale date also states "WandaVision’s six episodes will run through February 19, and we can expect The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (which was supposed to be the first MCU TV show out of the gate) in March". Can we use this to support a March 2021 date for TF&TWS? -- /
Alex/
2122:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Great about the template, thanks again! Forbes contributor articles are not considered reliable sources (Mendelson is a contributor) so it's a bit iffy as is using it for the WandaVision end date. Personally I'm not that concerned because ultimately the ref will not be there once the date comes and passes. As for FWS, because it's a Forbes contributor article, I would advise against using it at this time, unless another source confirms that speculation. I'm also not even sure where Mendelson is getting that as a release window. -
Favre1fan93 (
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00:18, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Congrats dude! The article you were working on,
Doctor Who (series 9), has passed the
Good Article criteria, becoming a good article on November 23, 2020. Great job on the improvements! For you're hard work, I award you this image of a cute cat. Enjoy!
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