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Cheers, ChzzBot IV ( talk) 12:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello. Just to remind you that the BLPPROD process requires "that the article contain no sources in any form (as references, external links, etc.), which support any statements made about the person in the biography" (original bolding).
I've removed the BLPPRODs you placed on Frederik Møller and Marco Larsen, because at the time you tagged them, each had three live external links to sources supporting most or all of the article content, two of which, dbu.dk (the Danish football governing body's website) and fcm.dk (the players' current club website) are reliable sources. cheers, Struway2 ( talk) 14:00, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:09, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Saw your note re proposed deletion. I have now added a reliable source for each of the four tables in the article. This should address your two related concerns that (1) there were no sources, and (2) without any sources the article's notability could not be established. As background information, these stats were broken out from the United States national rugby union team main page, which at the time was quite long at 75K bytes, so deleting the stats article and putting that info back into the main US rugby article would not be improving an article that is already lengthy and loaded with tables and stats.
Additionally, if you look at the various national rugby team pages, you will see that these tables/stats are common. If you think these stats should not be included in the US rugby page or any national rugby team page, you should probably take that to the WikiProject Rugby Union WP: RU talk page and see if you can achieve consensus. Barryjjoyce ( talk) 20:26, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi!
Thank you for your words at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/InfoStreet. In response, I edited my nomination.
In response, I also edited your comment; I explained why in the edit summary. If this was not OK, feel free to revert.
Also, if you feel that my new words on that AfD page are still not ideal, feel free to edit them without asking me for permission.
Cheers! — Unforgettableid ( talk) 06:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Hsin Sheng College of Medical Care and Management was speedy deleted because of WP:A7. However educational institutions are exempted from A7. I also noticed the admin DGG, who deleted the page. -- Quest for Truth ( talk) 15:04, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I pledge "no contest", please go ahead and delete GEM 1000, and while you are at it you can also delete Rabbit RX83. I have saved both articles to my sandbox, and plan to merge them with another almost identical (and more well known) computer. Mahjongg ( talk) 10:26, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
I made the all football league 2 page and many teams by my one and made a huge search on newspapers and any possible greek site. you think that if the was more infotmations for a.o. peristeri f.c. i will not added!?! i keep update all the football league 2 page EVERY week and now you came to tell me what to do!! i think is everything ok. For the a.e. kifissia f.c. is football a team of football league 2 and the team site has more information for about the team i will put them. Until now all the other users such as DragonflySixtyseven, Admiral Caius, Cplakidas, Lgcsmasamiya who reviewed my pages it understand the difficulties and the luck of information for the teams of football league 2.and you are the only one with a problem!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dante77782 ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand fully what you think needs to be changed, but I have made some adjustments to the page. If you can explain further about Wikipedia's wishes I'd be happy to update the page accordingly. In the meantime I have deleted your insertions and added a comment to the talk page, as you suggested.
Regarding sources and verification: I did include an unusually large number of citations, by Wikipedia standards. A possible point of comparison is with the article on Leo Feist, a similar figure. However, I can provide additional verification for much of the information in the article; if you can be more specific about assertions that need to be buttressed I'm happy to insert additional citations.
Regarding notability: I see that for similar figures (for instance, John Ashton) there is a "Further reading" section and some external links. I will add similar material for D. W. Cooper; is this what is needed? The other evidence for "notability" is Cooper's appearance in trade journals of the time (Variety, The Billboard, The New York Clipper, Music Trade Review); but these are individual appearances, pervasive but scattered, and it seemed to me it would be distracting to include them on this page. Please advise if you feel differently. I could mention in passing that, in my opinion, far too much of the literature on popular music publishing in the United States has been limited to Tin Pan Alley, and that recent scholarship (not just my own!) is beginning to reflect more adequately the role of regional publishers in shaping American culture. Most of that work has been presented at conferences and on-line, however; it is only now finding its way to publication. My article on Cooper is part of an attempt to ensure that this more recent work is evidenced in Wikipedia entries.
Regarding style: I attempted to apply the style guidelines I followed when authoring articles for The New Grove Dictionary of American Music some years back (and which I have used since in, for instance, acting as editor for the publications of the Orpheus Institute). But I am very aware that house style does vary among publications, and if you can give me some indicative editorial suggestions I'd be happy to respond to them.
Wfbrooks ( talk) 09:36, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. I don't have time to expand it at the moment but added just enough information to confirm his notability. As per the guidelines of WP:CRIC notability guidelines all first class cricketers are eligible for a wiki article. Tintin 05:26, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Just to let you know that musical recordings can only be deleted for notability under WP:CSD#A9 if there is no band article on Wikipedia. As Dead or Alive have an article page here, Sex Drive (Dead or Alive song) cannot be deleted by this method. If you still believe it should be deleted, I would suggest nominating it for WP:AFD. Stephen! Coming... 07:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello Ad Orientem. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Keki Tarapore (coach), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Played first class cricket, even if only once, is e reasonable assertion of importance enough to pass through CSD. Thank you. Ged UK 12:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I have responded to the speedy deletion nomination at Talk:International Cruise Terminal Station, as the article seems notable enough. By the way, is there a reason why you picked this particular station out of all stations on Shanghai Metro Line 12? Epicgenius ( talk) 03:04, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Why do you say that she is a main contributor to the article? How do you know this? Gloss • talk 06:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Why do you think Switchmas involved any COI editing? I can see no connection between its creator User:Asdified and the film. What do you see that I don't? Pam D 14:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello, you recently added a couple of tags on the page related to Pr Wolf Reik. In particular there is a tag "self-published". Why is that? I created the page and I am not Wolf Reik (I know him). You also added a BLP tag. Which source did you have in mind? I put references to his some of his main publications and a couple of websites such as the Royal Society, that demonstrate notability. But I am happy to follow any advices. Nicolas Le Novère ( talk) 22:14, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Mkdw talk 06:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Ad Orientem. I found some sources for Dirty Little Trick. It is now sufficient? -- Marek Koudelka ( talk) 14:12, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello Ad Orientem, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Asia Tech, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 07:44, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm still getting to know my way around the gears & switches of Wikipedia. I was glad of the opportunity to learn more about the PROD and Articles for Deletion process by working with you this week - thanks.
Also, Patrick O'Brian rocks. :) You might also enjoy Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne. I'm not normally a huge fan of Native American non-fiction, but the feel of that book reminded me of the Aubrey & Maturin adventures. There's not a lot of axe-grinding in Empire, and the characters and action rival the best of O'Brian's novels. James Cage ( talk) 06:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm not too proud of that article anyway, do as you please because I don't care much
- V.I.T.R.I.O.L. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous from the 21st century ( talk • contribs) 18:09, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello there,
The page for The Arsonist (Deadlock album) is actually still under construction. That's why it isn't finished yet. Unfortunately, I'm not a professional when it comes to making Wikipedia pages. Perhaps you know some wiki users to help me out in finishing it.
Thank you for your time. RuurdWoltring ( talk), Tuesday, February 4th, 2014 (07:03 AM).
Hello Ad Orientem,
Thanks a lot for information but what should I do?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 16:00, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ad. Thanks for reviewing Memory of the Garden at Etten (Ladies of Arles) and for your pleasant comments. Appreciated. Jennie Matthews 97 ( talk) 23:30, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi there Thanks for reviewing this page. In relation to your tagging the page on grounds of notability, there are currently 7 unique reference sources on the page, and 5 of those are notable sources, in the sense that they have pages on the English-language Wikipedia ( Taipei Times, Gay Star News, Liberty Times, ILGA and Radio Taiwan International). A 6th source, Lihpao Daily, is a newspaper in Taiwan, founded in 1935 (see Cheng Shewo). I appreciate that it may be difficult in some cases to separate the founder of the organisation from the work of the organisation, but it's on this basis that I felt an article was warranted, and of the organisation rather than a WP:BLP. Nsw2042 ( talk) 00:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the heads-up about deletion nomination. I would obviously like it to stay, but I have a stated bias, so will refrain from commenting as I trust the consensus process. :) -- Varnent ( talk)( COI) 01:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem. Thanks for answer. Maybe you could help to me to make any changes in the article?? I tried to use all necessary links to this article. All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 11:10, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem, thanks for reviewing this page! I have made two additions in response to your tags, and started a discussion on the article's talk page to which I'd like to invite your comment. Nettings ( talk) 11:31, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
The sources used to create this article are from two credible newspapers, The Hindustan Times and The Tribune India. Both newspapers clearly mention that the film is being shot and the actors who are in it and the article in the Tribune clearly mentions it's one of the looked forward to films of 2014. Both the Tribune India and The Hindustan Times are leading english language newspapers in punjab, so why are their sources not considered valid for this article?
Hello Ad Orientem,
Thank you for answer and help. It's my first article but I'm almost sure that I did all necessary links/sources. And I'm really not sure what does it mean better sources....so I'll grateful for help. I think the first or second possibility is ok "One is that I will find some good sources and get the article up to speed. The second is that I will find very little in which case the tags are likely to remain in place pending better sources to firmly establish notability". - of course depends of you. Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 08:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Please stop flagging Asia_Tech by mistake. Certainly it meets minimum requirements. If you think it's not following rules, then why is this alike article still approved : Shahrad_Network. For the record, what you do is not right and it's based on your own faulty personal judgement. Asia tech is a well known nation wide company which does not need global attention. As you can see it has an approved page in Wikipedia Persian as well. Regards. Sa3er ( talk) 11:10, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that there are a number of articles that you curated where the tool put tags or deletion nominations on the article without actually marking it as reviewed. I assume it was a glitch in the program, but the result is that a number of the currently oldest unreviewed articles in the New Pages Feed have actually been reviewed. You may want to take a scan through and just mark as reviewed any of the pages there you recognize as having tagged. Cheers. Wieno ( talk) 05:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
I'll try to find some new links. But can I add two links to one sentence?? Best — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 16:34, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Sorry about the poor content of references, I am working on it. If I cannot verify the information, I will delete it myself. Please allow me the time to do that, it appears that someone else has edited the page.
thx --thre4t 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Ok. I'll do it. but can I add links which includes posters from concerts, competitions or with only his artistic biography?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 20:52, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
I found three sources but I'm not sure it. 1 include organ competition in Zurich but there is no his biography: http://www.musikinzueri.ch/cms7/of/?OrgelFest_2011:Orgelwettbewerb_2011
2 include information from concert (polish language)and his biography: http://www.rc.fm/kulturalne/final-forum-organowego.html
3 include information about organ competition in gdańsk (polish language); http://www.trojmiasto.pl/VI-Miedzynarodowy-Konkurs-Muzyki-Organowej-im-Jana-Pieterszoona-Sweelincka-imp80470.html
4 include information about his prize during competition in Poznan; http://www.polmic.pl/index.php?option=com_mwinstytucje&Itemid=22&id=345&view=konkurs&lang=pl
and the problem is I'm not sure which sources should I use, only these which includes his biography?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 11:11, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Thanks for notifying me about the proposed deletion of the Guy P. Harrison page. I believe that the article has several issues, namely the lack of information about the author, instead of his books and the fact that the article does sound like an advertisement. However, the author does seem, in my opinion, to have a certain degree of notability. Here are some more sources:
Maybe it would be a good idea to contact some other editors to discuss the issue further. Thanks! NHCLS ( talk) 21:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi! The AFD discussion about HSC was relisted twice. After your vote, new comments in the AFD page were made and references were added to the article. Can you take a couple of minutes to go through the AFD page and reconsider your vote? Cheers! -- Quest for Truth ( talk) 11:58, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello! Could you please review the City Montessori School? It desperately needs a major review. Thanks! NHCLS ( talk) 21:27, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for all your edits. I'm just registering polite disagreement with this prod. Existence of Chinese wp and Belarusian wp interwiki articles indicated a good chance of notability, and made worthwhile a quick search in Google books. Thanks for your work. Cheers. In ictu oculi ( talk) 07:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Sorry but I must to add it as new section
I found three sources but I'm not sure it. 1 include organ competition in Zurich but there is no his biography: http://www.musikinzueri.ch/cms7/of/?OrgelFest_2011:Orgelwettbewerb_2011 2 include information from concert (polish language)and his biography: http://www.rc.fm/kulturalne/final-forum-organowego.html 3 include information about organ competition in gdańsk (polish language); http://www.trojmiasto.pl/VI-Miedzynarodowy-Konkurs-Muzyki-Organowej-im-Jana-Pieterszoona-Sweelincka-imp80470.html 4 include information about his prize during competition in Poznan; http://www.polmic.pl/index.php?option=com_mwinstytucje&Itemid=22&id=345&view=konkurs&lang=pl and the problem is I'm not sure which sources should I use, only these which includes his biography?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 08:55, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Jpop73 ( talk) 04:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC) thanks for letting me know
Not a problem, thanks for letting me know. Giant Snowman 18:27, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello Ad Orientem
I already added all sources which we talked yesterday. Best WrobelWiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrobelWiki ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
An article that you either edited or previously proposed for deletion has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Willy Monfret. Due to lack of discussion the article has now been relisted twice. If you have a chance could you please stop by and weigh in on the deletion debate. — Bill W. ( Talk) ( Contrib) — 14:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello Ad Orientem,
I hope everything is fine with that article and sources which I added a few days ago but it has to stay, this information?? "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (February 2014)"
Best regards WrobelWiki ( talk) 09:53, 21 February 2014 (UTC)WrobelWiki
Thank you very much and best regards. WrobelWiki ( talk) 08:21, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Dear Ad Orientem, The speedy deletion of the article "Tirana Ekspres" might been a speedy opinion. Though, it might seem to someone that the article is promotional (as you wrote), I would argue on behalf of re-establishing the article. If the mentioning of the National Theatre of Opera and Ballet or the National Gallery of Arts is all right then other cultural places/organisations have their place in Wikipedia, too. At the moment Tirana Ekspres is the only place that offers regular cultural events as concerts, exhibitions or theatre performances. In addition, they organise other activities and events, most of those related to culture and arts, other activities are connected to environmental protection and regional promotion. The number of activities and events is much higher than any other institution/organisation offers currently in Tirana - probably, it's higher than the total of all other's together, including the Opera, NGA and all the state run institutions. If you consider that the text was promotional, then help to make it neutral, objective, or whatever you think that was missing. My opinion is strong on that that such an initiative shall be mentioned on Wikipedia. Cheers! Geza.molnar ( talk)
Have a look here: /info/en/?search=SPACE_%28studios%29 Is this all right? What was the difference? (Speedy deletion - might be a necessary tool on WP, but far from a calm discussion.) Geza.molnar ( talk) 20:07, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I have removed the {{ prod}} tag from WorldViz, which you proposed for deletion, because I think that the deletion of this article may be controversial. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{ prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TopherBot91 ( talk • contribs) 21:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for the feedback.-- Hantsheroes ( talk) 01:01, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello Ad Orientem,
I just wanted to let you know that I copy edited that entry per your suggestions and added some citations. I didn't take out the tag about the citations, but I deleted the tag for copy editing since it looks clean to me now. I am new to Wikipedia and this is one of the first entries I've tried my hand at. I do realize after doing some editing on this that I need to get better at using the standard legends in the talk section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oona06 ( talk • contribs) 01:34, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi! I do no agree about the article being not neutral. It simply states facts of which channel, when it airs and what the story is about. Nothing to be POV in there. As for notability, a program that airs on a major cable channel of national coverage is notable on its own. But just for credibility sake, I added sources unrelated to Mnet and took the templates off. There are four unrelated sources now (Korea JoongAng Daily, Tenasia, Korea Times and Chosun. I hope it suffices. Regards Teemeah 편지 (letter) 11:48, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
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Hey there. You've recently posted a delete vote on the Claudiu Teohari delete page. Your say in your user profile that you're a New-Yorker. Are you by any chance a Romanian speaker as well? Because every link posted on the page is in Romanian and I'm not sure how you could tell they were trivial. One of the articles is an profile done by Romanian satire publication Kamikaze and the others are interviews with prestigious Romanian press institutions such as Antena 3, Gandul or Adevărul. As a couple of my Romanian conationals have stated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fără Cuvinte, Romanian press has come to be close to "non-existent" and wouldn't being featured in lengthy interviews in three of the four or five major outlets left qualify him as notable? Is there any chance you could take a look at my [ [2]] with another user who chose to change his vote from delete to just a comment and then go back to the Claudiu Teohari delete page and look at the sources I've added since then? (Another interview with Adevarul describing him as one of Romania's most well-know comedians and one of the most successful comedians in the country). Thank you and sorry for maybe not being clear, I'm not a frequent Wikipedia editor, nor am I an english speaker. cutkiller ( talk) 16:26, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, and sorry if I came off as a bit of an ass - A&M has a huge problem in a lot of areas and I've been running around trying to douse fires and get content to GA and FL standards and I've got piles and piles of books and lots of information (almost no end it seems) to actually handle. The Legendz matter was less than 2 mins to find N and the rest was just cleaning up someone who cared about the wrong aspects of what an encyclopedia needs and should be. I been a bit tough as of late because I need another 80 GAs before the end of the year and I didn't get to go to the library today... ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 01:24, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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Do I NEED to have a connection with the film to create the article Switchmas Asdified ( talk) 23:51, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Orientem -- As you can see I am a new user, and started my contribution to Wikipedia on a subject I was familiar and comfortable with which had no existing page. Unfortunately, my learning curve here has been a slow one. I have been trying to clear most of the concerns that have put the page up for possible deletion.
The one hurdle I am not certain I can effectively address is how "noteworthy" the subject is. However, that being said the particular profession of this individual (contemporary art curator) lends itself to a somewhat unclear nature, since in the art word they can have great notoriety they are of course not spoken of in the public at large as often as the artist they work with.
With all that said. I am still trying to make sure the page complies with all the guidelines required. Any further suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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Hi I noticed you were a member of the royalty project and I was wondering if you could help me with something. In English is the "d" in dynasty capitalized when used with one? For example which would be correct: Han Dynasty or Han dynasty? -- Steverci ( talk) 15:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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I only removed it because it was a personal attack and not a beneficial addition to the discussion. At WP:PERSONAL, removal of text is warranted. LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:51, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
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I improved Breil (company): is it a good stub? You can post in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breil (company). Good luck-- Pagoprima ( talk) 15:09, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Providing sources here, due to my pending topic ban, and to avoid cluttering the talk page further, but I believe there are a decent number of sources that have discussed the argument in a serious manner, both for and against. You of course are entitled to your own !vote on the RFC, and your own opinion as to if these sources satisfy whatever criteria you are using for yourself. In general, none of the sources below are making the argument that "modern gun control proponents are nazis", although some of the people have done so in other contexts, and the sources below are used as ammunition by those that do.
Halbrook is probably the most notable/academic of the arguments proponents. In addition to his book on the topic Gun Control in the Third Reich (book) he has published several papers on the topic in academic law journals (ungated free download links are available easily on google) [3] [4]
But there many other sources as well Racist roots of gun control , Kansas Journal of Law and Justice v 14, 1994 Of Holocausts and gun Control. Polsby, Kates, 75 Wash. U. L. Q. 1237 (1997)
Harcourt, Spitzer, and others have argued to the contrary in various academic law journals as well. [5] (Plus the many popular media articles on the topic arguing against the argument, such as slate, mother jones, etc) [6] [7] [8] [9]
Although Harcourt and Spitzer certainly are strong opponents of the argument that the Nazi laws had a significant effect on the Holocaust, they both directly acknowledge that the Nazis did implement regulations prohibitng the Jews weapons, and did do confiscations, and contrary to Steeltrap's argument, describe these actions as gun control. (Quotes pulled out in link below)
I had put together an index of the sources for earlier rounds of this dispute, which can be seen here User:Gaijin42/GunControlArguments
Gaijin42 ( talk) 18:23, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
There is an RfC on the Gun politics in the U.S. talk page which may be of interest to editors who participated in "RfC: Remove Nazi gun control argument?" on the Gun control talk page.
Thank you. -- Lightbreather ( talk) 22:30, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
You declined PROD on the The Squids. Just a note that the previous AfD was never brought to a conclusion, because the previous incarnation of the article was speedily deleted under CSD A7. The PROD was thus actually valid. No problem, I have already taken it into AfD, but in the future, you may want check the previous AfD, to see if it was brought to a valid conclusion. Thanks. Safiel ( talk) 18:42, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
What's your beef about the Margie Orford stub please? 1. She's very notable - an award winning crime novelist whose recent piece about the Pistorius trial has attracted widespread attention 2. The article is a stub and I used several sources for the start 3. As presently constituted the stub simply presents a series of facts easily verifiable. Are you suggesting there's a Conflict of Interest issue here? What nonsense. I'm editing at Trial of Oscar Pistorius and came across her piece on the trial and thought her worth a BLP start.
What on earth can you be thinking of? I'm removing your tag directly and will take you to an ANI if it reappears without such justification as you can muster here. I might just take you to an ANI anyway. I'll see how it goes. Coat of Many Colours ( talk) 09:15, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks PamD. It didn't really bother me. I like art and my pages are a tad bare. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 22:06, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Coat of Many Colours, I am sorry that somewhere along the way I seem to have caused you offense. In any event I thought the matter had been settled, but here we are again. I am not sure what more can be done. I have exercised great restraint in the face of your persistent lack of civility and abuse of AGF but really, your attack on DGG is simply over the top and completely out of line. If you still have issues with me I invite you to take the matter to ANI. Beyond which I must very respectfully ask that you desist in commenting on my talk page. I truly regret that we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot, but I think this has gone on long enough. Best regards - Ad Orientem ( talk) 22:47, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
See my comment on their talk page. I'm going to hold off on hauling them off to ANI for now, but we should keep an eye on what they're doing. And thank you again for spotting this and reporting it! § FreeRangeFrog croak 20:24, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
@ FreeRangeFrog: This is getting out of control. Have you seen his edits for today? I am seriously thinking about sending this to ANI for habitual disruptive editing. What is your take? - Ad Orientem ( talk) 21:36, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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Hello Ad Orientem. I've seen that you are experienced with ships and with new pages. I would like to draw your attention to SS Espagne (1909). Over on the Dutch wikipedia its equivalent is in the AFD dept, it's by the same author, no sources or references. We first thought en-wiki was the source, but I think a Dutch wreckdivers website is the original (no copyright violations, though). If you would try Google, beware of the French SS Espagne of 1910. I've briefly looked at AFD, but that's way more complicated than over here. What do you think should be done? Thanks in advance, Sander1453 ( talk) 20:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know our discussions were in the wrong place. You answered me there so I answered you. Wish I was told from the start.
I have said this several times before, but once more: I came to WP to completely rewrite 3 pages. I assumed WP had high standards for science pages, equal to text books, scientific papers. I have found that not be be the case in the majority of pages I have visited. I am now focusing entirely on the links from the 3 pages I am rewriting. I have yet to find a single one that meets minimum standards for scientific publication. Not sophistication - organization, wording, accuracy,
I am not going to take everyone's advice to "do it yourself". I would be spending most of my time flagging , learning WP policies, procedures on the 3 kinds of tags, what's not polite to say, explaining what's wrong on talk page, having people rebut what I say ("this article is not so bad" is my favorite). And jokes are not OK in my opinion in an alleged science article on Bleeding time. Maybe for Cosmo. Not for WP.
I'm glad you brought me to this page - I read at the top you are not an Administrator, and I assumed you were when you took on the task of flagging. I still appreciate what you have done.
So none of this is your responsibility - I am just ventilating on you and leading up to my oft repeated central question : isn't there SOMEBODY at WP or SOMEWHERE at WP where a simple message can be placed that I BELIEVE THIS SCIENCE SITE IS SUBPAR and have a science guy look at it on his schedule and decide whether it is or not without being given a reason? I have tried this question at WP/help/chat, and several administrators. You are the only one who did anything other than ignore my "that's not why I'm at WP" speech and given me the "here's how you do it" speech.
So I knpw you are in the same boat as I am - you've got better things to do than report bad science writing. But I also know you care or you wouldn't have reported the one you did.
So I have my final question for you: is there any administrator of anybody at WP who might be receptive to my message? If so . forward this to them or tell me who they are and I'll keep trying. If not, I'll ignore bad science writing when I come upon it so I have time for editing.
Ironically, even as you were writing to me I was finishing up editing another page of bad science writing: Onyalai. Spent an hour deleting incorrect statements, creating new sections, merging redundancies rewriting bad sentences. Then I got to the end and looked at the references: all 20 of the references were from 2 sources: a 22 y/o textbook, and a series of journal articles all with the same author. I pulled one of these papers -and the lead for this page was copied word for word from that paper! I suspect the entire article was copied from the 1992 text, but no access to that. This is a 100% copyright violation until proven otherwise. So would it be easier for you to flag it as such, or teach me hoe to do it? I'm not going to walk away from this one, but I'll walk away from now on for the reasons I've given.
Looking forward to a response -
Regards,
IiKkEe ( talk) 23:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
So just so I know I've got this straight: you're suggesting I post my concern on as many Project talk pages as I can get to? That's an OK answer since there is no single clearing house for Bad Science - just want to be clear.
I'm definitely sticking around - hovering over the 3 sites I've completely rewritten - in attack mode in case anybody dares to try to edit away my good stuff. Just no flagging of bad stuff until WP comes up with a more effective, less time consuming way to flag: one flag that says BAD SCIENCE WRITING ALERT.
I think I'll write that on Onyalai just to see what happens.
One short response re did I get it right and we can go our own ways.
Regards -
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I'm lost : I can't find my first post on this page and your response. It's not on this talk page' Do you know where it is? I need to copy it.
IiKkEe ( talk) 01:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes. That's the gist of my advice. Post your objections or concerns about defective articles on the talk page and as many related projects as you can find. Don't worry about your lost post. You accidentally deleted my entire talk page... lol. But that's one of the great things about Wikipedia. It's almost indestructible. A couple quick clicks and everything is fixed again. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
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It's good to see I'm not alone in finding some people a bit trigger-happy with putting articles up for deletion, even if it does turn out that the song Scalliwag never becomes notable!
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I have to agree with you. There are other sources but as far as being notable for a specific reason, the answers all seem to fall back to one person. I have been contemplating moving all the content to another related article ad requesting deletion. Been off and on Wikipedia, but since you spotted this I should go ahead and do it now to speed things up.-- Mark Miller ( talk) 19:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
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Chelseajenny90 ( talk) 17:51, 22 June 2014 (UTC) I see you have deleted the entry for Jonathan Power even though over the last 2 weeks I have gone to some trouble to amend it to meet the criticism you and Clive Power have made. ( I wonder if Clive Power is related to Jonathon Power whose entry is next to Jonathan Power?- Is there some competition here?!) (By the way the name Jonathan is spelt with an o not an a in the squash player,s case. May be they shouldn't be on the same page!)
As you must know by now Jonathan Power is one of the most well-known and respected journalists working. For years he has resisted going on Wickipedia as he doesn't like to see publicity other than his bi-line. But I and a few other people who know his work persuaded him to let us try and make a site. It is certainly not an auto biography. It just talks about his accomplishments.
As to particular things you and Clive Power have challenged I have tried to clarify the points made about the Venice silver medal film "It's Ours Whatever They Say". This was won jointly by Jonathan and Jenny Barraclough. Jonathan was the reporter and producer and Jenny was the director. With the BBC and London and Edinburgh Film Festivals it was Jonathan who got first mention among the credits. In Venice it was, as their tradition, the other way round. Jenny Barraclough says she would be only too happy to confirm this with you. Her email is: jenny.barraclough gmail.com. You can also check with the UK government's British Council who selected this film as the UK entry.
I Have not finished doing the footnotes for every article and interview as it is a laborious process. But be assured this will be done as soon as I have the green light from you.
Regards, Jenny Eklund.
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if you can compose the article by Dianne van Giersbergen do, but don´t be rude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IvanRSsenite ( talk • contribs) 18:48, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Due to the fact that I wasn't able to response to your vote. Here we go:
"I have been lurking on this AfD since it first appeared and have been deeply conflicted. For the most part I was leaning towards deleting it on the legalistic grounds generally cited by those who want to get rid of it. But the above comments have changed my mind. In addition to the excellent points made by Roy, I will add another observation. Members of royal families, with a few admitted exceptions, should be notable. That's not to say that they should be given a pass the way we have with colleges and high schools. But rather that members of royal families almost always will have enough sources around somewhere to ring the notability bell." — I am not arguing for deletion because I believe Georgian royals to non-notable. I created
List of Georgian consorts and helped clean up many articles about Georgian kings and queens. My argument is the list of mothers is trivial and not up to Wikipedia standard. We don't have any such list anywhere else in Western monarchies. If there was a distinct title documented in sources such as
Queens mother or
Valide Sultan that would be different, we have had articles like this, but no this is a list of people who didn't have a distinct title. It is just a trivial list."
"Which brings us to the bias problem mentioned by Roy. It's not just recentism, but also Western and Anglophone bias. If the subject of the list was the mothers of the Kings and Queens of England we would not be here right now." — Don't be too sure. I would vote for such lists' deletions as strongly. The fact is we don't have such an article. Examples such as
English queens dowager actually documents a title which existed in sources.
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Thank you! That was very kind and I tip my hat to you. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 18:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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I could not agree more with your comment on the Talk page. I am one of only two people who are trying to get some sensible wording in about ISIS being terrorists. I have even put some wording on the Talk page that passes Wikipedia’s “rules” (which incidentally I have only just discovered are not meant to be hard and fast), but after the first flurry no-one seems interested any more. It is very frustrating. There is supposed to be consensus before the next edit on this, but if the silence continues, I will go ahead and make it. It is utter madness for Wikipedia not to acknowledge loud and clear that ISIS are terrorists, when everyone else in the West is screaming it. Stephen Glover in the “Daily Mail” today calls ISIS “psychopathic”. How right he is. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 08:36, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you! That was very kind and I tip my hat to you. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 18:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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I could not agree more with your comment on the Talk page. I am one of only two people who are trying to get some sensible wording in about ISIS being terrorists. I have even put some wording on the Talk page that passes Wikipedia’s “rules” (which incidentally I have only just discovered are not meant to be hard and fast), but after the first flurry no-one seems interested any more. It is very frustrating. There is supposed to be consensus before the next edit on this, but if the silence continues, I will go ahead and make it. It is utter madness for Wikipedia not to acknowledge loud and clear that ISIS are terrorists, when everyone else in the West is screaming it. Stephen Glover in the “Daily Mail” today calls ISIS “psychopathic”. How right he is. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 08:36, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
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Hello Ad Orientem,
I created a new article of ATEN International Co., Ltd yesterday which I directly translated from the wiki of Traditional Chinese, https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE%8F%E6%AD%A3%E8%87%AA%E5%8B%95%E7%A7%91%E6%8A%80. I think it is OK to do the translation as /info/en/?search=User_talk:FreeRangeFrog#article_translation .
I just translated the article from Traditional Chinese to English without modification and I have included all the references and sources. May I know why you would put this article for Speedy deletion ?
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisclock ( talk • contribs) 03:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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Article you PRODed - restored as contested PROD. You may wish to consider WP:AfD Ronhjones (Talk) 19:00, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Now please do understand u mr. reverter,Harati or Hariti is a goddess who is not so popular but carries huge importance for her devotees & followers! Many people even don't know her so,how could you expect that a detailed information may be on a reference site???? Just listen to me,Harati Maa is my goddess & I know well about her! So let me just write about my goddess! if u r still not convinced ,google harati maa and visit each & every websites then u will get my points .now could u please .stop obstructing my articles????? -_- I dont know about ur religion but you'd possibly don't like being interfered in religious matters and about your god! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mintu.Awal789 ( talk • contribs) 18:58, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I am sure you have found that it is possible to break down communication barriers before, as have I. I truly do not feel that a ban on creating new articles is the way to go. 99% of the time we can get through people's defences if the attempt is done solidly and loudly enough, hence my shot on their talk page. IT requires immense patience and determination.
Against that, even if they create 1,000 inappropriate articles in the intervening period, Wikipedia is a computer system. 1,000 articles may, if necessary, be deleted quite simply. Nothing is ever as urgent as it appears. It;s important to get them to talk, certainly, but it is not urgent. It just feels urgent even though it is not. Any editing actions, even a huge number, may be undone with remarkable ease. Fiddle Faddle 21:47, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
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your reasoning behind wanting to keep demet muftuoglu's page is that you got a lot of hits on google search. if that is the basis of wanting to keep and putting an article about someone on wiki, why was AMANDA ELIASCH deleted who is actually very well known in the UK? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 ( talk) 02:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
but that is exactly my point. both articles were written in exactly the same fashion and style. you choose to save demet muftuoglu but remove amanda eliasch. however, amanda eliasch is far more notable than muftuoglu and has been extensively covered in multiple reliable secondary sources from leading world renowned publications to top magazines and newspapers and also featured on TV. please do a google search on eliasch and you will see the quality of hits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 ( talk) 17:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
sure will start shortly writing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 ( talk) 05:34, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
demet - trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.[6] — Preceding
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appreciate it if you could help with this page. wrote it up as per your advice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amanda_Eliasch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 ( talk) 05:06, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
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it seems muftuoglu is organiser of the event not founder
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Hi, its great to hear from you! Please check out this article Disappearance of Jorge Müller and Carmen Bueno that I have expanded with more information, sources, and categries. I am proud of it and would like to share it with you even though you are no longer an administrator. Davidgoodheart ( talk) 03:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
I returned after three years, so I'll leave a candle in the window. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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It makes me sad to see the retirement notice. I'll add this notification anyway, as perhaps you may like to have a look. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 09:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Ad Orientem, I was so pleased to see your edit at WP:AN. I've always remembered you for the lovely username, which caught my eye when I joined in 2016, and then the nature of your sensible comments. Best wishes, Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 04:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
My watchlist is ridiculous - it's over 22,000 articles now, and still growing despite the 'temporary watchlist' feature they added recently. I've considered just emptying it and starting again, so I can actually monitor only those pages I'm personally interested in. One of the reasons I haven't done that is because every now and again I notice something on a random article I wouldn't be monitoring that makes me smile, such as an edit by a highly respected colleague who isn't around much any more, and who is sorely missed. Hope you and yours are keeping well. Girth Summit (blether) 17:09, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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