Would you reconsider the close on consensus here? The Deletes were 4 against 2, with Deletes having far deeper analysis in ratio, and every source had been analyzed by different people, and this was the basis for relisting, to have better input and to answer a user's question, which happened. SwisterTwister talk 00:14, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
your close on this AfD just made me chuckle. Not a single vote cast, not even the nom which was me and neutral. A first? And a fitting no consensus close. Guess if anything it did validate that it wasn't a good CSD candidate StarM 02:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, A Train. I feel a little unsure what you meant, in your close of the ANI against Music314812813478, by "The community has decided to assume good faith and not indefinitely block the editor, but the community may do so at any time if the topic ban is violated." Did you mean to say "an uninvolved admin may do so at any time", or in fact that "the community may do so [=block them] at any time"? A block by the community would involve first schlepping the user back to ANI, so maybe not? P. S. Community sanctions can be logged here. (I try to avoid placing them myself, because I have so much trouble with that log format. ;-)) Best, Bishonen | talk 09:01, 28 July 2017 (UTC).
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This article was not very well sourced but obviously passes WP:ARTIST #4b.
With all due respect, regarding "one is a photograph of a table” is not really true because the artist's sculpture was actually behind the table, and not the table itself, and the photograph was no longer a reference in the final version of the article.
Also, the comment made by the User:Biruitorul was quite rude (“we didn't really need another week” or “- come on”) and clear made by someone who is not art expert.. [1] Ed Terano ( talk) 14:23, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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now , many pages that not created by banned user id deleted because of this user https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Log&dir=prev&offset=20170810152638&type=delete&user=GeneralizationsAreBad GeneralizationsAreBad without attention to instructions and without review deleted many old pages that them havent any conflict and problem. please reverted this page and get twinkle access from GAB. you can see this articles that created many years ago and this user with twinkle deleted all of them with twinkle because of newly this pages renames and redirected , from championship to championships or ipc to para :
redirect from ships to ship (main article havent problem but with twinkle in authumated situation all of them deleted!!!)
please tell to admins and resuscitation all of them.
also he/she destory this article with deleted many of content :
plus in Asian_Cross_Country_Championships : deleted all of page from 1991 Asian Cross Country Championships to 2014 Asian Cross Country Championships. deleted over 10 articles.
in result : Never forget that one takes full responsibility for any action performed using Twinkle. thnaks. Batisyana ( talk) 19:58, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi A Train. You closed (and then deleted) this AfD for the Sri Lankan cricketer. Please could you tell me who created the article initially and what was the content of it prior to deletion? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm not going to make a federal case out of it, but a 3–2 vote to delete definitionally isn't a consensus. We either need to get more people involved in these AfDs or simply end the charade and let admins make the decisions. — Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 15:26, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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I create a page with Capital letter but I cant move this to PREM KHAN to Prem Khan. please move this.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.177.147 ( talk) 09:18, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hey thanks! A Train talk 18:57, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
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By the way, soft delete there was not applicable because of the previous PROD. I'm not saying you should revert that closure though, as it was months ago, but please be careful upon further soft delete enactments. J 947( c) ( m) 04:45, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
May I discuss this closure if that's alright with you? I realize these discussions can put admins in a tough spot but I would appreciate some clarifying of your thought process. At the point of closure, deletion was slightly favored 10-7 (I include myself and Mr rnnude); obviously, that alone does not constitute deletion. However, the comments, particularly by Mr rnnude, TimTempleton, and (hopefully) myself not only thoroughly expressed why this incident failed notability requirements but also disproved keep votes. As an admin, you also should give less weight to !votes that state "per sources" or "passes GNG" because we know those are arguments to avoid. I reiterate, I would appreciate a little discussion here and I hope I did not come across as too critical. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 08:10, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
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Would you mind editing it to remove any ambiguity - he isn't under a six-month ban, he is under an indefinite ban only appealable after six months - it doesn't expire at that point (the appeal may be declined). Resetting the counter just resets when he can appeal :) Only in death does duty end ( talk) 11:59, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi A Train, quick question. Is it OK to use company sources for straight-forward statements of fact (i.e. history of the company, major projects they were involved in, subdivisions of the company, employee count, etc.)? From my understanding, WP:PRIMARY allows it as long as editors exercise caution, but I was wondering if you knew a specific policy for companies. Big thanks, MX ( ✉ • ✎) 15:56, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kate_E._Reynolds&diff=804034628&oldid=803915555 yes please. ScratchMarshall ( talk) 16:54, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
I have closed the Afd for Skytap so it can be relisted it in a simpler and clearer way, as you requested in the discussion. If it is, you may want to comment again. DGG ( talk ) 22:43, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi there, A Train. I just noticed you have become a member of WiR. It's a great honour to have such a long-standing Wikipedia editor among us. Your help with Spanish will be useful. You'll find long lists of red links for virtually all the Spanish-speaking countries here. I see you haven't created many articles in the past; perhaps now's the time to start. If you need any help, let me know or keep us informed on the WiR talk page.-- Ipigott ( talk) 10:18, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
2 Keep, 2 Redirect, 2 comment. How the result is redirect? -- Joseph ( talk) 19:26, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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Helllo A Train,
I noticed the deletion of the Eugene Youth Symphony article when you removed links to it from the Eugene, Oregon article.
Would you be willing to put a copy of the article in my userspace as a draft? I found about 1 1/2 reliable sources ( this) and this, and with a little digging at the city library and the University libraries I suspect there will be enough offline sources to develop it.
Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 11:23, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for your decision and explanation on this page. I respect the decision, but I want to do what I can to revive it properly, including what you mentioned of putting it in my drafts.
It is humorous and ironic that the artist was featured in an article TODAY (where they ARE the main subject) the day after you determined the deletion of the page. Stacked Like Pancakes was featured on Alternative Press. Here is the article. This is inarguably significant.
Is it possible that this, combined with the other credible information provided on the original page, could be a basis for reinstatement for the page? Even if it is broken down and fixed up even further than it was... this article feature on Alt Press is proof of what I mentioned in the discussion: the artist is growing quickly, and there will only be more press to come.
Thanks again. RisingDown360 ( talk) 01:04, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
FYI, I've changed my !vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quadrafile, as pings aren't working I thought I'd just drop a note by. DrStrauss talk 19:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi! Would you mind posting (on the AFD) the reason you closed the discussion as a keep on the AFD for Cassie Jaye? It was a pretty close discussion and I'd like to know your reading of the consensus. PeterTheFourth ( talk) 08:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
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Wow, thank you Drewmutt! A Train talk 06:34, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I am confused as to why you reached the decision of no consensus on the AfD for this article. The debate had one vote for redirect, two for delete, and two for keep. Even if I think that JClemens has no argument that it merits a redirect, at the very least, the decision should have been Redirect, as Delete votes imply also being okay with Redirection. However, the Redirect vote would have been the tie breaker that gave it consensus. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 13:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable
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You deleted this page [1].
As I pointed out the previous admin who deleted it, this subject more than meets your notability criteria [2].
They meet criteria #8: "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award."
The key words in criteria #8 are "such as". A major music award is not exclusive to the awards listed. There are numerous major music awards all over the planet that are not Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis awards that would qualify a subject within criteria #8. This is something the previous admin who deleted the page failed to understand. That's why I'm pointing it out here.
The subject in question just won a SOCAN [3] Award. Here is a link [4] to prove it. They won the International Song Award, bottom of page 2. They are listed under their legal names, Yannick Rastogi and Zacharie Raymond. They are the first two songwriters listed. That's not a coincidence. They are the primary songwriters and sole producers of the song.
They also meet criteria #2: "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart."
And criteria #3: "Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country."
The SOCAN Award they won was for Olly Murs' "Kiss Me" [5] which charted [6] in Belgium, the Czech Republic, Ireland, Scotland and the UK and was certified gold in the UK [7].
Please put the page back up. I'm happy to generate out a more robust Wiki page for this subject myself with sources that conform to Wikipedia's best practices. Thanks.
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sifr4 ( talk) 18:16, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I didn't suggest you did it unilaterally. And your consensus was wrong. I have provided proof that the subject meets three of the criteria, listed above. Three of the criteria. Three. It only needs to meet one of these criteria to qualify as notable. So the subject is actually three times as notable as what your consensus failed to grasp. Please recreate the article in my userspace so I at least a draft to work from. Thanks.
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Hello, I am curious why you deleted this article. Could you please share the reasoning (I have not found it elsewhere). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcmordie ( talk • contribs) 21:43, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
The point I was trying to make was that the Christianity Today review was stating the movie itself wasn't notable by only giving it 2-stars out of 4. "Trying to rebut arguments with stuff like"... implied that there were multiple instances of my not understanding WP:NFILM Anything else you feel necessary to share? Shearonink ( talk) 15:06, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
This movie is not the first about Aimee Semple McPherson...: not remotely relevant for notability. GoldenEye isn't the first film about James Bond, ergo not notable per your argument.
Netflix....only available on DVD, not available for streaming.The relevance of this cannot be measured with an electron microscope.
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but can you please explain what is it about Half Marriage's long term significance makes it the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over Half Marriage (TV series)? I pointed out how about 90% of readers going to the 1929 film page are almost certainly looking for the Indian TV series, so the primary topic criteria satisfied by the film can't be primacy in terms of what readers want. Is there any evidence that the film has significant enduring notability? I only did a cursory search for sources about the film, but wasn't able to find anything besides namedrops, and nothing in-depth besides the original 1929 NYT review. [2] ---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 21:59, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi. Well, i know the meaning in general, but what does it mean on enwiki? —usernamekiran (talk) 00:07, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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Hello! Per Wiki's guidelines for recreating a previously deleted page, I wanted to reach out and let you know that I'll be taking a shot at recreating the RIMS Risk Maturity Model page that you made the consensus to delete. I will do my best to address the feedback given in the AfD discussion. Thank you! Outlier11 —Preceding undated comment added 15:55, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
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Regarding your comments here. I had already initiated a full SPI here before the ANI thread was launched. T v x1 14:50, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi I saw that you closed as keep the article about Richard Sneed based on the consensus of the keep !votes. I don't have a problem with that, I would have liked the other participants to have replied to my comments but that's the way it goes so no point in flogging a dead horse! I am more interested in your opinion about GNG and topic specific criteria. This is a subject that comes up regularly in AFDs and as nobody (with the exception of power enwiki) replied could you give me your opinion. For me whether he meets NPOL or not (I'm not sure he does though) is irrelevant if the sources do not show that he meets GNG. What do you think? Cheers. Domdeparis ( talk) 10:13, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Hope you're well- just a quickie: did this mean, that you were taking to AfD? Or wot? Cheers! — fortuna velut luna 23:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, you recently deleted Embark Trucks based on WP:NCORP, which I had tried to clean up. Just wanted to note a couple more articles from today that I think reinforce WP:ORGIND and notability. NY Times and Wired. Would appreciate your thoughts on if this changes anything. Given how quickly the automated vehicles startup space is moving, WP:TOOSOON criteria applied arbitrarily may exclude legitimately important companies and/or developments. I haven't edited that many pages, so I appreciate your feedback given your experience. Jonnyvsrobots ( talk) 21:38, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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I just noticed this got nuked after barely a week with little or no discussion or attempts to establish notability or lack thereof. The restaurant has been featured in a number of widely circulated publications, is a longstanding Dallas landmark, and is the birthplace of Fearing's new southwestern cuisine. FOX named it in the top 10 hotel restaurants in the US, quite a distinction. A few links: http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/01/30/top-10-us-hotel-restaurants.html https://www.dmagazine.com/food-drink/2014/09/changes-at-the-rosewood-mansion-on-turtle-creek-the-restaurant-gm-resigns-staff-concerned-about-quality-of-service/ http://www.dallasobserver.com/location/rosewood-mansion-on-turtle-creek-6451662 https://luxerecess.com/mansion-on-turtle-creek/ http://www.10best.com/destinations/texas/dallas/oak-lawn/restaurants/the-mansion-restaurant-at-rosewood-mansion-on-turtle-creek/ It even has a cookbook: https://www.amazon.com/Mansion-Turtle-Creek-Cookbook-Cuisine/dp/0847836533 Currently, the article on the city of Dallas has nothing at all listed for restaurants, thanks to an endless onslaught against anything encyclopedic pertaining to Dallas cuisine. There is no list of Dallas restaurants, unlike the list of New York restaurants. So, is the objection that this restaurant in particular isn't notable, or that restaurants in Dallas is not generally a notable topic? Pawsplay ( talk) 05:13, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hi A Train could you kindly restore Dheeraj Singh Moirangthem? It was an article that I personally had AFDed which you closed last October see here but the article now passes WP:NFOOTY as the subject has made an appearance in a professional league see here. Thank you Inter&anthro ( talk) 20:06, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
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