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edit war according to the reverts you have made on
First Council of Nicaea. Note that the
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blocked from editing without further notice. . Phrases such as "some maintain that" are called
weasel words, and it is a phrase to be avoided on Wikipedia. There are three sources in the paragraph that show an earlier use of The Trinity so the disclaimer "some maintain that" is unneccessary. --
Diannaa (
Talk)
22:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
{{
unblock|Your reason here}}
, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.
Courcelles
23:18, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
the reason I feel this block was unfair and unwarranted is because I really did NOT violate "3RR" by going beyond 3RR, but kept it only at 3 reverts, which is what the policy states. Dianna wrongly put "4" edits and wrongly called ALL FOUR OF THEM "reverts", when that simply isn't true. The first edit was simply a NORMAL ORDINARY RUN-OF-THE-MILL MODIFICATION AND EDIT....and NOT an "R", in that sense. So the block by you is based on a hasty reading of things, and on Dianna's wrong and unreasonable intrepration of things, as she has a habit of doing.
Number two: I tried communicating directly with her, even before my 3rd "Revert", by writing on her talk page. She had written on my talk page some dogmatic thing about "edit warring" simply because of my ONE "undo".... Which she wrongly considered my "second" even though, as I said, my first edit was simply a GENERAL EDIT AND ORDINARY EDIT, not an "undo" or "revert" or a radical change even.
Not only did she not engage, or address ANY of my points, or communicate anything out in that sense. She wrongly says that a more neutral sounding "some maintain" is "weasel" though that phrase has never specifically been called "weasel" ish by WP policy, and despite the fact that "some maintain" is a phrase found in MYRIADS of WP articles with no problem. It's just a neutral objective wording.
she addressed NONE of those things with me on her talk page, but instead reverts again, reports me to the notice board, MIS-REPRESENTS things, and insults me by saying that me trying to fine-tune my wording on her talk and my talk was "rants".
How was SHE not "edit warring" at least in some sense by undoing good-faith modification for more neutral tone (per WP policy) and uptightly calling "some maintain" a "weasel word" without really explaining how, or engaging me?
I kept it at the limit of 3 reverts, as, like I said, the first "edit" was NOT a "revert" AT ALL, that she cited, but was simply a general edit, a simple modifying edit for improved wording, for neutrality, etc. That arguably cannot and SHOULD NOT be considered a "revert", since not only did I not "undo" anything, I didn't even radically alter anything either.
I mean, analyze it, does that mean that ANY EDIT will be considered a "revert" if it can be FORCE-FITTED to look that way? Such as in disputes like this, and if an editor has "clout" maybe in some circles on WP, the person with maybe less clout will not be given the benefit of the doubt at all, but the Admin will be quick and hasty about it?
Again, I KEPT AT THE LIMIT OF "3RR"...
the first edit was just an ordinary edit, and was NOT a revert AT ALL....
The thing says that there was "disruption"? Well how was SHE not "disrupting" things by reverting TWICE a good-faith edit, that she wrongly weirdly calls "weasel" word? "Some maintain"?? That is "weasel"? By Dianna's uptight definition? More-nuetral sounding tone is "weasel" to her?
I did NOT violate "3RR".
the first edit was simply a general ordinary edit. NOT a revert at all, in ANY sense. But people (with bias) will LOOK at things the way they want to, if they maybe don't like the editor in question, or do like the other editor in question, or if they prefer a certain wording (though it may arguably NOT be as neutral as it could or should be.)
why was I blocked, when I did not really violate 3RR, and I tried talk the matter out with Dianna, where she ignored, did not address or respond, and just REMOVED the whole thing I wrote on her talk page, with no answer to any of my points? 23:35, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
just to be brief, I do apologize. I saw last night that according to WP policy (even if I may not personally totally agree, in that it could be an uptight view by WP, but it still needs to be followed) "some maintain" is considered "weasel"ish... IF NO REFERENCES are given. Which there weren't. So technically what you (and Diannaa) said is true. Sorry about the trouble. The only reason I'm writing you here is because you wrote me on my talk page.... But anyway, it's fine. I was merely making the point that there is another WP policy of NEUTRALITY in wording, and not to have the tone of endorsing a particular view THAT NOT ALL SCHOLARS OR HISTORIANS agree with. Not everyone agrees that the trinity doctrine was formulated even at Nicaea, let alone before Nicaea. Some think that, but not all. Anyway, thanks for your attention to this. It's no sweat. And again..... my apologies.
68.237.216.187 (
talk)
03:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Would you happen to be the same person editing under the user name Sweetpoet and IPs 68.237.215.48 & 68.237.240.68? Your edit patterns, tone and writing style (use of the word uptight and of caps, for instance) seem similar. So did your unexplained removal of a deleteable image caption from Luther G. Presley (below an image Sweetpoet uploaded and now being discussed fro deletion) with this edit. If not, please disregard. Cheers! Novaseminary ( talk) 19:17, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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