Disambiguation-ChangeTwoDabspolicy Quick Study
To get some data to inform ongoing RFC at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Proposal: keep two-item dab pages Hypotheses of the researcher (Doncram):
Ideal sample: a random sample of AFDs about disambiguation pages where wp:TWODABS was used to argue for deletion.
Sample achieved: A convenience sample which is a subset of AFDs about disambiguation pages whose names start with letter "D", out of AFD's about disambiguation pages with "(disambiguation)" in their title (i.e. usually where a primary topic has been determined). I didn't see how to find AFDs about disambiguation pages without "(disambiguation)" in their title.
Procedure:
Results: Out of 28 cases found
Findings / Observations / Notes:
Caveats: It is likely that I made one or more errors in categorizing or other, as people make errors, as there always are errors in any big analysis, and as categorizing is subjective. I also did this fairly quickly and it is incomplete right now, in terms of how I want to write it up. However, I swear this is an unbiased sample, in that I deliberately chose a sampling process where there was no a priori reason to expect a slant, and I didn't change results or selectively drop results. I also tried to be honest about what my hypotheses were beforehand. (A study is more valid if the hypotheses are stated in advance, and then sample is collected and tested, than if the hypotheses are formed partly from browsing the results.) The categories created here were not defined in advance, however, they are formed to describe the gathered data. And I acknowledge that the tone of my writing reflects my (informed) bias towards keeping all 2-item dab pages. With more time editing, I could make it read more objectively. However others have the data now and can assess how they would decide in the 32 cases (28 two-dabs ones, 4 unrelated). Note: In the sampling process early on I did not record some AFDs which seemed obviously unrelated. Should I go back and get them?
Further research hypotheses: Perhaps there is longer continuity of editors on the "Delete" side of these, and more intense frustration and turnover of the editors on the side of Keep. The total number of editors on "Keep" side may be larger. The collective view, the consensus, may in fact be more on the side of "Keep" for all of these, if all were considering each example. (But, as the frustrated Keepers will note, it is a waste of more editors time for all to be involved, again and again. Waste of time may not to be as much of a concern for those who vote "Delete" (i.e. they value it less, so are more inclined to vote "Delete".)
AFDs in the sample are classified as to which of the following "best fit":
Note: In the table below "#" is merely a row number from 1-32, just reflecting original entry order. The table is sortable. The current presentation order is by Type category (OldInterp or OtherKeep; AddsSave; ProvenWrong; DelBut; AllGone). (Please comment and ask questions on sample and methods at Talk page.)
# | AFD | Date | Result | Type | Note |
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9 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deep One (disambiguation) Deep One Deep One (disambiguation) |
2006 | Keep | OldInterp | Kept 2-item dab contrary to recent interpretation of twodabs. It has been no problem since. |
12 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diary of a Wimpy Kid (disambiguation) Diary of a Wimpy Kid Diary of a Wimpy Kid (disambiguation) |
2012 | Keep | OtherKeep | Four valid items, but it was argued that they appear on a template together, so dab not needed. Were some items arguably partial title matches? |
23 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominic Chan (disambiguation) Dominic Chan Dominic Chan (disambiguation) |
2016 | Keep | OtherKeep | A redlink and a dabmention were disputed as invalid entries, arguably bringing down to one or two valid items. That view did not carry. |
25 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Dewar (disambiguation) Donald Dewar Donald Dewar (disambiguation) |
2009 | Keep | OldInterp, OtherWrong | TWODAB argued, and this was kept as 2-item dab page. (But later, in 2012, it was Speedy deleted with invocation G6: "Obviously unnecessary disambiguation page"). Arguments of note:
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28 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Douglas Haig (disambiguation) Douglas Haig Douglas Haig (disambiguation) |
2010 | Keep (no consensus) | OtherKeep? | Twodabs was argued, as a redlink was asserted not to count and one may have been a partial match because it included a middle name? A DABMENTION was deleted during the AFD. Selected quote:
|
1 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DBCS (disambiguation) DBCS DBCS (disambiguation) |
2015 | Keep (withdrawn) | AddsSave | And then there were 3. Another item was added. |
5 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daud Shah (disambiguation) Daud Shah Daud Shah (disambiguation) |
2012 | Keep | AddsSave | Disputed because one of two was a redlink; kept when an editor added 2 entries. |
8 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Zimmer (disambiguation) David Zimmer David Zimmer (disambiguation) |
2009 | Keep (no consensus) | AddsSave | 11 voters spent time. Notable arguments IMO:
|
10 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Democratic Unionist Party (disambiguation) Democratic Unionist Party Democratic Unionist Party (disambiguation) |
2010 | Keep, Speedy | AddsSave | after 6 items added. |
13 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Digon (disambiguation) Digon Digon (disambiguation) |
2016 | Keep | AddsSave | Partial title matches asserted. After it was prodded for having just 2 items, Boleyn removed prod and added surname section with 2 items. |
19 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disambiguation (disambiguation) (2nd nomination) Disambiguation Disambiguation (disambiguation) |
2009 | Keep, Speedy | AddsSave | after a 3rd item was added
|
32 | Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drown (disambiguation) | 2010 | Keep | AddsSave | 2 were added to 2 existing items, and also Drowning (disambiguation) was merged in. |
31 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dying to Live (disambiguation) Dying to Live Dying to Live (disambiguation) |
2009 | Keep | AddsSave? | Was PRODed, then AFDd. Of four items, 2 were redlinks, notability of 2 were questioned. One or more were added during AFD. Now in 2016 it has 3 exact matches and 4 DABMENTIONS (blacklinks)
|
4 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Dark Knight (disambiguation) The Dark Knight The Dark Knight (disambiguation) |
2007 | Delete | ProvenWrong | But since recreated. Now has 12 items and 6 See also's. |
11 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek McGrath (disambiguation) Derek McGrath Derek McGrath (disambiguation) |
2009 | Delete | ProvenWrong | But since recreated, now has 4 items. |
14 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dimension X (disambiguation) Dimension X Dimension X (disambiguation) |
2005 | Delete | ProvenWrong | However there are now 2 hatnotes / 3 items and it could be recreated. [It was recreated by me, Doncram, just now (September 28, 2016).] |
15 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dingoes ate my baby (disambiguation) Dingoes ate my baby Dingoes ate my baby (disambiguation) |
2013 | Delete | ProvenWrong | It was called "absurd", but it was well-argued IMO that there is use for something in Wikipedia to clarify usage of the phrase. Participants did not see their way to having a dab page with three DABMENTIONS, which I think would have fit.
|
18 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disambiguation (disambiguation) Disambiguation Disambiguation (disambiguation) |
2005 | Delete | ProvenWrong | Its only items then were a dictionary definition and wp:Disambiguation. But those should have sufficed IMO, and anyhow it was recreated and there are more now. |
20 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Distant Early Warning (disambiguation) Distant Early Warning Distant Early Warning (disambiguation) |
2006 | Delete | ProvenWrong | But was recreated in 2007. |
21 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Do No Harm (disambiguation) Do No Harm Do No Harm (disambiguation) |
2006 | Delete, Speedy | ProvenWrong | But recreated in 2006. Now has 9 items (including a partial match, a redlink, two blacklinks) plus 1 "See also". |
24 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominic Chan (disambiguation) Dominic Chan Dominic Chan (disambiguation) |
2011 | Delete | ProvenWrong | But recreated in 2011. Has 5 items now. |
2 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DV8 (disambiguation) DV8 DV8 (disambiguation) |
2009 | Delete | DelBut | But there are multiple uses in Google. (Can do more to support re-creation now.) |
3 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Avery (disambiguation) Daniel Avery Daniel Avery (disambiguation) |
2009 | Delete | DelBut | A third Daniel Avery could be the musical artist. |
7 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Yost (disambiguation) David Yost David Yost (disambiguation) |
2013 | Delete | DelBut | Dispute about which is primary, and about notability of a third item at AFC.
He is under Mark Helfrich (American football) as head coach of Oregon Ducks; he is known as a product of coach Mike Leach (American football coach) at Washington State. He is notable. There are other David Yosts, also.
|
29 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr Raj (disambiguation) Dr Raj Dr Raj (disambiguation) |
2016 | Delete | DelBut. | There was just one fairly clearly valid,
Rajkumar (actor). It was revised to show usage of "Dr. Raj" in the article. Notability of a second item (apparently a redlink) was "questionable and not proved yet." It was noted that a few people could be referred to as Dr. Raj. [These would be DABMENTIONS now?].
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30 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duke of Reichstadt (disambiguation) Duke of Reichstadt Duke of Reichstadt (disambiguation) |
2008 | Delete, Speedy | DelBut, OtherWrong | Deleted by argument of G6 non-controversial housekeeping, a Twodabs argument. AFD was closed 2 hours after it was opened, before there was any comment by anyone besides nominator.
Duke of Reichstadt was then redirected to what is now
Napoleon II. It was stated that a hatnote has been placed at Napoleon II of France to facilitate disambiguation with
Petar Stojanović (composer)'s operetta. [However the hatnote has disappeared since.] That was presumably a DABMENTION? or a redlink? I assume there is a non-primary usage (yes, the "stage work" listed in [[
Petar Stojanović (composer): "Vojvoda od Rajhštata (The Duke of Reichstadt; Die Herzog von Reichstadt); libretto by
Viktor Léon and
Heinz Reichert, Vienna, 1921"). What happened shows a need to keep a two-item dab page to remember the non-primary item, as its mention in a hatnote will possibly be deleted at whim.
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22 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominant group (disambiguation) Dominant group Dominant group (disambiguation) |
2011 | Delete, Speedy | AllGone | was "Delete (wp:snow)" **11 other AFDs for Dominant group (extinction), Dominant group (petrology), etc. |
26 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doodlemail (disambiguation) Doodlemail Doodlemail (disambiguation) |
2008 | Delete, Speedy | AllGone |
CSD G6 one of two items was deleted during AFD.
Doodlemail does not currently exist, so other was never created or must have been deleted too. Apparently there were 2 redlinks, articles being created? --doncram
Speedy Delete lack of content (dab pages with less than 3 entries as I understand it fall under this somewhere). No prejudice against the creation of individual pages for these 2 subjects as long as the resulting articles conform to our policies and guidelines for notability and verifiability. Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)"
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The following seem unrelated. Note also there were a few more disambiguation pages early alphabetically in the AFDs starting with "D", which I judged were unrelated, and I did not record them.
# | AFD | Date | Result | Type | Note |
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6 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Quinn (disambiguation) David Quinn David Quinn (disambiguation) |
2005 | Keep | Unrelated | Confusion about the items also being covered in Quinn (disambiguation)?. There were two items. [BTW, now there are 8 items.] |
16 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dirty Pair (disambiguation) Dirty Pair Dirty Pair (disambiguation) |
2007 | Keep | Unrelated? | Issue was all items were covered by hatnotes from Dirty Pair itself. |
17 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dirty Pair Flash (disambiguation) Dirty Pair Flash Dirty Pair Flash (disambiguation) |
2007 | Redirected to Dirty Pair (disambiguation) | Unrelated? | |
27 |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Double Seventh Festival (disambiguation) Double Seventh Festival Double Seventh Festival (disambiguation) |
2014 | Keep | Unrelated | Was about a 3-item page and possible merger of 2 of the articles into 3rd article. |