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Place Clichy: Regarding
this edit. "Independent Catholicism are Catholics not in communion with Rome". That is not supported by
Independent Catholicism or
Catholicism(which redirects to
Catholic Church. I must ask you to discus, and refer your arguments supported by sources. As this is a template, it better be supported by a collection of sources as seen in articles - which templates aim to reflect. Even better, please direct you arguments to a centralised location at
Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Catholicism)#Catholicism. Thank you!
Chicbyaccident (
talk) 14:19, 10 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I am not sure what the objection is, and I will not draw conclusions from an edit comment which is not editorial content. My edits on this template come from the concern to present Independent Catholicism as a major branch of (Western) Christianity at the same level with Catholicism and Protestantism, as in this version of the template.
Note for instance how
the Oxford Dictionary defines Catholicism as 1. The faith, practice, and church order of the Roman Catholic Church. 1.1 Adherence to the forms of Christian doctrine and practice which are generally regarded as Catholic rather than Protestant or Eastern Orthodox. According to this very standard definition, the doctrine and practice of, for instance, the
Old Catholic Church, cannot seriously be regarded as Protestant or Eastern Orthodox. Their Catholic heritage in doctrine and practice is clearly stated, for instance, in the Old Catholic Church article, which describes Old Catholics as groups which had separated from the
Roman Catholic Church over certain doctrines, primarily concerned with
papal authority [...] Catholics who disagreed with the
Roman Catholic dogma of
papal infallibility as defined by the
First Vatican Council (1870).
However, I actually sincerely doubt that this navigation footer really serves a purpose on articles better served with long-standing navigation boxes such as {{Christianity footer}}, {{Protestantism}} or {{Catholicism}}.
Western Christianity is good the the article namespace, but it does not need an intermediary level of distinction in terms of navbox. Not every article needs to be transformed into a navbox.
Place Clichy (
talk) 16:36, 10 September 2018 (UTC)reply
This is getting tiresome. We can't expect users to repeat the same kind of discussion in indefinite individual locations. Would you mind to please state the above arguments and all other arguments that you deem relevant at
Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Catholicism)#Catholicism? Thanks!
Chicbyaccident (
talk) 15:35, 11 September 2018 (UTC)reply