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Updated I have made some edits in the sandbox which allow for this template to be collapsible. Comparison of the update with the previous version can be seen in the testcases.
If an editor provides the argument |state=expanded/collapsed
it now has a header which says "Reference ideas for PAGENAME", the references are now contained within a box that distinguishes it from the rest of the template, and there is a hide button. The template defaults to |state=plain
which results in the current appearance and no option to collapse.
It should not have any changes to existing transclusions of the template, though if there is consensus the default behavior can easily be changed from plain to expanded. The update does not change the behavior of |small=yes
. This request should be left open for a few days to get feedback. If there is consensus, please move the sandbox into the main template.
Wugapodes
[thɑk]
[ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]
17:56, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Previous proposal
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I have made some edits in the sandbox which allow for this template to be collapsed, as well as collapsed by default. Comparison of the update with the previous version can be seen in the testcases. It should not have any breaking changes to existing transclusions of the template. The only changes to the default behavior is that it now has a header which says "Reference ideas for PAGENAME", the references are now contained within a box that distinguishes it from the rest of the template, and there is a hide button. It does not change the behavior of |
|collapsed=
. If you look on the testcase page, you'll see that the "No named parameters" example shows no change in appearance, but if the argument |collapse=no
is provided, then it becomes collapsible in the way I described above. So the version in the sandbox now should have no change to existing appearance of transcluded templates.
Wugapodes
[thɑk]
[ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]
23:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
|comment=
or |f#=
fields weren't used. I added more test cases (which is how I discovered the whitespace was important). I think it's important for there to be a header so that when the box is collapsed, people know where to look and what it contains. I tried removing the bold, but it just looked odd, so I added it back. We can discuss that more as well. Because of the switch from {{
cot}} to {{
hidden begin}}, there's no more white box. I could probably add it back if people like the aesthetics but it comes down to what people like more.
Wugapodes
[thɑk]
[ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]
07:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
|collapse=
does not yet exist, no existing transclusion contains it, and so their appearance should be entirely unchanged (see the non-collapsible testcases). The option for a user to show or hide the contents is not offered unless an editor specifies a value for |collapse=
. If a value is provided, the default behavior is to show all contents with the option to hide, unless they specify |collapse=yes
which causes the contents to be default hidden. Do you mean that there should be no opt-in collapsibility? (Also, I added the interior box back, but a bit more beige so that it matches {{
to do}}).
Wugapodes
[thɑk]
[ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]
07:46, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
|collapse=
parameter, with accepted values of "yes" and "no": is this a normal implementation of collapsing that is used in many other templates of this type, or is this a scheme of your own devising? It is much better to use parameters and values that editors are familiar with, and changing to a standardized system is always easier during development than later on. The collapse settings that I know best are used
by Template:navbox. –
Jonesey95 (
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11:58, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
|collapsed=yes/no
and {{
navbox}} which uses |state=
and has several options. Beyond that I'm not sure if there's a standard, though I think it might perhaps be unexpected to have a yes/no parameter where both options differ from the default.
PC78 (
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12:18, 7 June 2019 (UTC)|collapse=
parameter, as do the archive templates {{
cot}} and {{
hidden begin}} though those aren't banners. It would be non-standard to have a collapse parameter where both options differ from the default. I've changed the scheme to be more in line with {{
navbox}}. Rather than |collapse=
it now has |state=plain/expanded/collapsed
. It defaults to |state=plain
which removes the ability to collapse the template similar to behavior on {{
navbox}}, so existing transclusions shouldn't have an appearance change. If an editor passes |state=collapsed
then the template begins in a collapsed state. If any argument besides plain or collapsed is passed, it defaults to expanded by default.
Wugapodes
[thɑk]
[ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]
17:39, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
This displays correctly:
{{Refideas | M. M. Loubser, Towards a Theory of Extinctive Prescription, 105 S. AFRICAN L.J. 34, 53 (1988). }}
The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
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But when I add a URL at the end it does not:
{{Refideas | M. M. Loubser, Towards a Theory of Extinctive Prescription, 105 S. AFRICAN L.J. 34, 53 (1988). https://heinonline.org/HOL/P?h=hein.journals/tulr85&i=3 }}
This only happens with certain URLs. It appears to stem from the equals-sign in the URL; the lone URL also fails:
{{Refideas | https://heinonline.org/HOL/P?h=hein.journals/tulr85&i=3 }}
But this (nonfuctional) one with the two equals signs removed displays (but it's no longer a correct URL):
{{Refideas | https://heinonline.org/HOL/P?hhein.journals/tulr85&i3 }}
The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future: |
TJRC ( talk) 16:25, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
|1=
added before the parameter value, should work fine:The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
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Is there a 22 refideas limit? Please see usage at Talk:Zack Snyder's Justice League where I think this is happening. -- Emir of Wikipedia ( talk) 20:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC) (please mention me on reply; thanks!)
{{
refideas}}
,
like this. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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21:27, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Can someone help identify why the listed refidea is not showing at Talk:Broken (2006 film)? BOVINEBOY 2008 14:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Please add |plainlinks=no
to the call to {{
tmbox}} (added
in 2016) so that the
plainlinks
CSS class isn't present. It makes sense to indicate external links in suggested references (especially if CS1 templates are used, as then there may be both internal and external links). --
Pokechu22 (
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05:51, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion, currently in its infancy, around the idea of providing a separate namespace or area for sources to be collected for articles. Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#"Sources"_namespace. Thank you! — Locke Cole • t • c 05:39, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please search for the following expressions and correct theme as mentioned:
{{#if:{{{f7|}}}|*{{{7|}}}|}}
→ {{#if:{{{f7|}}}|*{{{f7|}}}|}}
{{#if:{{{f21|}}}|*{{{f20|}}}|}}
→ {{#if:{{{f20|}}}|*{{{f20|}}}|}}
Thanks. Jeeputer Talk 08:39, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: The current icon is outdated (it's from 2005). New icon would be desirable. Eurohunter ( talk) 10:53, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
The /doc should not be using WP-internal articles as example referencing suggestions. We already have enough noob editors who don't understand WP:CIRCULAR yet; we need not have template documentation teaching them to do this on purpose. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:28, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
The article has references to [[free culture]]
. This has two problems.
I suggest that [[free culture]] be replaced with something that renders as free content or at least as free culture. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul ( talk) 19:46, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Note that any wikitext typed anywhere in the template data table such as [[Croatian football]]
will not retain any of its functions and will appear as plain unlinked text, character for character.
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Jonesey95 (
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21:27, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
"f1": {
"label": "Free reference 1",
"description": "A [[free culture]] reference that is not currently used in the article, but could be",
"type": "line"
},
"f1": {
"label": "Free reference 1",
"description": "A [[free content]] reference that is not currently used in the article, but could be",
"type": "line"
},
Based on a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Implementation of Template:Refideas editnotice with @ Redrose64, I would like to see if we could create a category on any talk page where the Refideas template is present (maybe it would be called Category:Articles using Refideas or something like that).
The goal is to have my Template:Refideas editnotice show up whenever a user clicks "edit" on any article using Refideas on its talk page, so that MediaWiki:Common.js will use the category to display the editnotice, similarly to how we get an editnotice when editing BLP articles. Ideas, thoughts, suggestions? For the record, I am pretty slow when it comes to technical stuff so please keep it simple for me. ;)
(If you want to see an example of how it would function, click "edit" anywhere on Call of Cthulhu (role-playing game).) BOZ ( talk) 19:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
There should be a new boolean parameter created in this template that will remove the {{
Refideas editnotice}} if desired. Per that template's documentation: If you do not want this template to display in an editnotice, remove the refideas template from the associated talk page.
this should not be the case. It shouldn't be an either/or situation. Editors should have the ability to not have the edit notice while still keeping ref ideas on the talk page. -
Favre1fan93 (
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17:28, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
This template appears to be adding more spacing above it than other talk-page templates do, normally (e.g. Talk:Esperanto). Is that intentional and by design? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 20:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I’m confused on why there is a limit at all to how many items can be listed in the template. Zanahary ( talk) 18:20, 24 February 2024 (UTC)