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ElijahPepe, I don't think it is an improvement to simply copypaste the format at
Template:Russian invasion of Ukraine into here. It is not necessarily the ideal format for other conflicts, and we had one collapsible section of this template with two articles and another with four. We should use collapsible sections when not doing so renders the navbox way too long to be read easily; with sections of two and four articles we're not there yet. Your edits also left a lot of empty space in general in the template. I am not opposed to adding back some of the links you had added. And personally I disagree with not listing casualties, but I'd like to hear other editors' opinion on this too.
Super Dromaeosaurus (
talk) 19:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Aner Shapira
A member of an armed force is not a civilian, no matter if he is in a uniform or not.
Synotia (
moan) 08:37, 13 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Cluttering
Lau737, please stop adding these unrelated links to the template. This template is for the Israel–Hamas war. Not for general judicial terms that apply to dozens of past and current military conflicts and not only. We can't include anything slightly related to everywhere. These links also provide no informational value. Many of them don't even discuss this conflict. It's just clutter. We already have articles of this kind specifically about this war or about the wider Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
SuperΨDro 12:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)reply
No you don't, otherwise I would have added these to Israeli-Palestinian conflict template. When people talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, all they talk about is "Ethnic conflict," "Ethnic cleansing," "Social cleansing," "Structural violence" this and inhumane blockade that. When the Palestinians talk about it, all these things are true, up to and including genocide. The terms must be included!
Lau737 (
talk) 12:59, 28 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Ethnic conflict and Ethnic violence were there for flair, the same being true for Communal violence. Extrajudicial killing, Ethnic cleansing, Social cleansing, Population cleansing, Collective punishment, Political cleansing of population weren't there for flair, they were important terms that shouldn't be excluded.
"Social cleansing" just follows from the accusations of genocide. "Population cleansing" follows from accusations of bullying Palestinians off the land. "Political cleansing of population" follows from attempts to move Palestinians who are members of Hamas off the land.
As I said not anything even distantly related to the conflict has to be on the template.
Earth is also distantly related and it shouldn't be included. All of those general articles are either discussed in other pages on the template or have specific Israeli-Palestinian conflict pages of their own. My edits were thanked by two other editors. One of those reverted your reverts of me. I don't see consensus for inclusion of these terms in the template. Because it's not necessary.
SuperΨDro 14:01, 3 March 2024 (UTC)reply
And why did "Killing of journalists in the Israel–Hamas war" have to go? Did your finger slip?
I am not about to link every article from "War" to "Missile," but yes, the most straightforward articles, articles that would otherwise be overlooked, should be included.
Have you read any of the articles? This is just as unreasonable as barring "Lynching" from the Civil rights movement template, or "Rape" from the Genocide template.
Lau737 (
talk) 16:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Stop speaking like this, you've already been warned for your tone by several other users
[1]. Yes, my finger "slipped", I accidentally removed that list, apologies for that. Look, it is clear we disagree on this. I advise you to seek dispute resolution measures. You can use
WP:RfC,
WP:3O, or other methods mentioned at
WP:DISPUTE, I will participate on them. I think the burden is on you as you're the one proposing a change and because my reverts of those changes have been supported by two other editors. And genocide is a construct, it makes perfect sense that it is full of theorical concepts and definitions. You don't see lists of general definitions on events. At least I don't on
Template:Civil rights movement. Lynching in particular started precisely on the US, at least the term, so it is justified as I see it that it is included. None of the terms you mentioned started with this conflict. I don't see any particular reason for including these general terms that apply to many conflicts in the template of this one.
SuperΨDro 17:07, 3 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I will do just that!
Lau737 (
talk) 14:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Should Nicaragua v. Germany be listed alongside the South Africa v. Israel court case?
Nicaragua v. Germany seems like an important court case that is related to this conflict. Shouldn't it be in this template alongside the South Africa v. Israel court case?
JasonMacker (
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Add Talal Abu Zarifa to the deceased Other militants section and Mahmoud Khalil Zakzuk to deceased Hamas militants section, and David Ben-Avraham, Hani Al-Masdar and Fathi Ghaben to deceased Palestinian civilians.
MF4412 (
talk) 02:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Can you provide a reliable source for these edits?
AdamBlacktalk •
contribs 04:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)reply
After further consideration, I am not going to perform this edit. Another editor is welcome to handle these requests, but in my opinion this infobox is overburdened as it is and badly needs to be condensed and/or split. I will post a discussion suggesting this when I get a moment. It is already longer than most stubs and bigger than the majority of articles at almost 16.8 kilobytes in size; for context the largest article in the list above is 16.2 kilobytes.
AdamBlacktalk •
contribs 08:57, 5 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Add Nahed and Ramiz Barbakh and Hadeel and Imad Abu al-Qara (links in the Arabic Wikipedia) to the deceased Palestinian civilians
MF4412 (
talk) 02:41, 5 June 2024 (UTC)reply
 Not done The navbox is already bloated, and adding more links (let alone to articles from foreign language wikipedias) is not suitable in my opinion. Have a good day,
P,TO 19104 (
talk) (
contribs) 18:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply