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I used the GeoGroup function back when I was sorting Category:Central Province, Sri Lanka geography stubs about a year ago. It was dandy. Now I'd like to use it in some stub categories under Category:Pakistan geography stubs, but when I try to apply {{ GeoGroup}} or {{ GeoGroupTemplate}} to a category (such as Category:Populated places in Upper Kohistan District), I'm taken to an OSM page that shows "sorry, no data to show". (I get the same result on the categories I previously used it on in Category:Central Province, Sri Lanka geography stubs.) I've tried varying the parameters per the template/doc, to no avail. Is there another setting I need to use, or has the OSM URL in the code changed? Please help. Her Pegship ( ?) 18:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC) reply

You don't miss anything, this was a bug over months. -- DB111 ( talk) 13:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

It times out with an error message starting with "Webservice request timed out". Initially it did it on an article with many coords, but further testings shows it is not working on any article no matter how few coords. Kerry ( talk) 01:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I have been expanding articles on mountain ranges and major glaciers in Antarctica to include lists of smaller features such as mountains, cliffs and tributary glaciers. The idea is to get rid of trivial little stubs, and put the information they hold into the context of a larger feature. Worcester Range is an example. I usually remember to add {{ geogroup}}, which I find helpful to check for anomalies in the coordinates. But at first glance, what displays is just a scatter of pointers on a plain, pale blue background. The reader has to look very carefully to see there are some light grey regions where the mountains are. And they have to zoom in, zoom in further. and zoom in more to find a little red triangle where OpenStreetMap thinks the peak is, and zoom in further again to find the OpenStreetMap name.

Is there any way to add a parameter or parameters to {{ GeoGroup}} to ask for greater contrast and more prominent feature symbols and names? Aymatth2 ( talk) 14:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Clicking on the GeoGroup box in the rendered article isn't launching Open Street Map. However, Open Street Map itself seems to be working as normal. Not sure where to report this problem. Kerry ( talk) 02:28, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

OSM4Wiki (the tool behind) isn't maintained very well anymore, so maybe replace (or complement) by WikiMap (which doesn't have "section" support), e.g. https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?lang=en&page=Paris

WikiMap has working "level" support (showing subcategories), broken in osm4wiki for years: {{#if: {{{level|}}}|&subcats=true&subcatdepth={{{level|}}}}} -- DB111 ( talk) 13:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Having GeoGroup not working is quite a big loss. Where should that be reported in the hope that someone can work out a solution? Thanks! Underwaterbuffalo ( talk) 14:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Unfortunately (resp. with good reason) not everybody could change the template to switch the tool. -- DB111 ( talk) 16:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Replace [https://tools.wmflabs.org/osm4wiki/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki-osm.pl?project=en&article={{urlencode:{{{articlee|{{{article|{{FULLPAGENAMEE}}}}}}}}}}{{#if:{{{section|}}}|&section={{urlencode:{{{section|}}}}}}}{{#if:{{{level|}}}|&l={{urlencode:{{{level|}}}}}}} OpenStreetMap] with

[https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?lang=en&page={{urlencode:{{{articlee|{{{article|{{FULLPAGENAMEE}}}}}}}}}}{{#if:{{{level|}}}|&subcats=true&subcatdepth={{urlencode:{{{level|}}}}}}} OpenStreetMap] -- DB111 ( talk) 16:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

That does not work for me. See https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?lang=en&page=Saint+Johns+Range. But it seems as though GeoGroup works some of the time, just not all the time. Aymatth2 ( talk) 17:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Now GeoGroup is working. Maybe it is just running on an antique server that cannot handle the load. Aymatth2 ( talk) 19:57, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Not working for me. Try it on Indooroopilly, Queensland or [1] Kerry ( talk) 23:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Now it's working again! Hurrah! Thanks to anyone who helped make it happen! Kerry ( talk) 07:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Stopped working again. After a long delay, I see "Wikimedia Toolforge Error: Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again later." Aymatth2 ( talk) 15:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The template's feature "Map this section's coordinates using OpenStreetMap" is not working correctly; coordinates are not mapped at all (see Marcos mansions#List of current & former properties owned by the Marcos clan). Please fix it. Thanks. Sanglahi86 ( talk) 22:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Working for me, using both Chrome and Firefox, on Lubuntu Linux. Works with whole article or single section selection. Tested on List of Isle of Man railway lines and locations. -- Verbarson   ^talk _edits 21:40, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The Isle of Man railway lines are mapped, but the Marcos mansions coordinates are not. I'm using Chromium on Linux Mint. I cannot identify what is wrong with the coordinates in that article. Sanglahi86 ( talk) 10:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I think I've solved it by replacing the ampersand (&) in the section title. Maybe GeoGroup's underlying code is picky about special characters? -- Verbarson   ^talk _edits 14:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

GeoGroup generates a URL that includes the section name, with & replaced by %26 (and space replaced by +) apparently following the percent-encoding process (specifically the application/x-www-form-urlencoded variant):

https://osm4wiki.toolforge.org/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki-osm.pl?project=en&article=Marcos_mansions&section=List+of+current+%26+former+properties+owned+by+the+Marcos+clan

(note: this URL will not work since the section has been renamed)

I guess that the code which interprets this URL fails to decode the encoded characters properly. -- Verbarson   ^talk _edits 17:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Initially I thought I must have made an error entering coordinates in the article I was working on, but it seems every GeoGroup I checked both in Australian articles and beyond is taking the reader to the same map of somewhere in Germany. Not sure if this is our problem or Open Street Maps. Kerry ( talk) 02:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I am currently working on OSM4Wiki. Some changes in Wikimedia forced me to activate the new version before it was bug-free. I even asked on several places to test the new version, but there was little feedback. Nobody told me "your tool does not work with GeoGroups". So please be patient. -- Plenz ( talk) 19:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for fixing it! Kerry ( talk) 07:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC) reply