Comment: Drive-by nom. Some editors are allergic to "first" hooks, but as there is only a finite number of MPs and all of their ages are in the public domain I think we're safe.
Comment only. It's interesting that you say that all of their ages are in the public domain. I spent a few hours yesterday clearing
Results of the 2024 United Kingdom general election by constituency of dozens of links to disambiguation pages. Very, very few of the new MP bios included a year of birth. I don't doubt that The Guardian has got its facts straight, but I do doubt that your statement holds true. If it was true, those bios would presumably have included birth years. Schwede66 05:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Apologies, that was a very clumsy way of putting that. I meant that all of the information would have been available to the Guardian for them to fact-check their claim (especially given that
baby of the House is a thing). It's very unlikely someone else is going to sprout up and prove us wrong.--Launchballer 19:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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Schwede66: The Guardian's just published an article saying that two further MPs were 24 at the time of election, and sniffing around some less than reputable sources (the
@Tomorrow'sMPs Twitter account, which appears to be operated by
Michael Crick) says that both
Josh Dean (politician) and
Euan Stainbank were born in 2000. It would appear that Carling's constituency declared first, but I'll do a deep dive into live results when I'm finished with
Dead Pony. I do note that the Guardian has not retracted the article cited on this page.--Launchballer 15:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
According to the Economist, Stainbank's Falkirk declared at 3:47, Dean's Hertford and Stortford declared at 4:03, and Carling's North West Cambridgeshire declared at 5:59. However, I did some further digging, and it turns out I've got the start of the 21st century wrong as
there is no year zero in the Anno Domini system. So I am right, but not for the reason I expected.--Launchballer 18:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment I don't think the provided QPQ is valid because no hook was actually reviewed.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
talk) 16:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Probably because there were no hooks on the page for me to review and because I was explicitly invited to propose one - the only valid hook on that page is ALT2, which is my hook. Reviewers often propose new hooks and call for new reviewers, I fail to see the difference.--Launchballer 16:33, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Just to preempt a possible 'it's been a week without a QPQ' comment, my view remains that the provided QPQ is valid, on the grounds that the only hook on the page was mine, and I consider this no different to a reviewer saying 'this hook would be better, someone else needs to approve it'. I don't plan on doing a second. An actual reviewer can adjudicate on it.--Launchballer 11:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Coming up with a good hook is as much work as reviewing a hook. Hence, this is a valid QPQ in my books (at least in spirit, and if others see it differently, then I suggest IAR). Schwede66 04:50, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
I agree that the QPQ provided above should be fine. Yes a new opinion was requested, but that was only with regards to signing off a hook. Launchballer still did the actual article checks, which are ultimately what are most important to filling the QPQ requirement.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 13:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
agree with NLH5 and Schwede66 :) full review needed.
theleekycauldron (
talk • she/her) 22:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Adequate sourcing: - Unsure if there is a policy I am missing but some details in the infobox seem to be unsourced anywhere in the article, e.g. the exact date of him assuming office or the percentage of his majority
Overall: Reviewing this after there seems to be agreement that the qpq is acceptable. Also noting that the
21st century started in 2001, so the fact other MP's were born in 2000 does not negate the validity of the hook.
Currently Executive Councillor links to a disambig page. Please can this be updated to point towards a specific article?
@
Launchballer: Please let me know if you have any questions about this review?
CSJJ104 (
talk) 13:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Flicking through the page's history, I am 100% certain they got it from us. I'll do the rest when I get back from shopping.--Launchballer 14:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)