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The result was: promoted by
Edge3 (
talk) 03:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
... that the Crusading movement created a framework of ideologies and institutions that described, regulated, and promoted the Crusades? Source: Maier, Christoph T. (2006a). "Ideology". In Murray, Alan V. (ed.). The Crusades: An Encyclopedia. Vol. II:D-J. ABC-CLIO. pp. 627–631. ISBN 978-1-57607-862-4.
ALT1:....that one feature of the Crusading movement was the increasing popularity of models of the prime objective, Church of the Holy Sepulchre, that became embedded in daily devotion, providing a visible sign of what crusading was about. Source: Tyerman, Christopher (2019). The World of the Crusades. Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-21739-1.
ALT2:....that the
crusader states that had been created in the
Levant by the Crusading movement became
nationalist rallying points and emblematic of western
European colonialism in the mid-
19th century.Source: Madden, Thomas F. (2013). The Concise History of the Crusades (Third ed.). Rowman & Littlefield Publishers. ISBN 978-1-4422-1576-4.
I find it all interesting but have been in amongst it for too long to understand what they lay reader finds interesting. So guidance is welcome. I'll be away for a couple of weeks now, so please be patient with my replies.
Norfolkbigfish (
talk) 11:46, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Onegreatjoke, thanks. I think we are getting there. How about using
Levant for the geography? Alternatives would be
Near East or
Eastern Mediterranean, all of which are pretty much synonyms. I have also wiki-linked what I can.
Norfolkbigfish (
talk) 06:53, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Overall: @
Norfolkbigfish: Good article, but a much better hook could definitely be made for this nomination. So i'll wait for the new hook.
Onegreatjoke (
talk) 02:11, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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Norfolkbigfish: alt2 works though I feel like some wikilinking and clarification would do nicely if it can fit under 200 characters (For example, what is the East?).
Onegreatjoke (
talk) 23:05, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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Norfolkbigfish and
Onegreatjoke: I think ALT2 is too long, vague, and winding. Being familiar with the article—good to see it got to GA eventually, how about something like: ALT3 "... that the Crusading movement defined concepts of warfare throughout medieval Europe?" Shorter, sweeter, and more likely to 'hook'.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
talk) 11:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
It's just waiting for a promoter, don't worry; neither I nor OGJ can promote it because we're involved.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
talk) 12:52, 21 July 2023 (UTC)