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I have been discussing with IP user User talk:80.209.140.92 the inclusion or removal of Saith Seren, a pub and community centre. They have argued it should be removed from the article as it is not of significance.
Most town/city articles make reference to the nightlife, social spaces, and community venues in said town, and I don't see why Wrexham should omit such information either.
I note the tourism section already refers to other pubs as well as Saith Seren. I do not see any pressing need to omit this particular venue, especially considering there are others such as the Old Swan pub which is also not of any particular fame other than being a pub.
I have instead moved the group of pubs and venues (including Saith Seren) into a more suitable Venues and Centres section, as they are all not particularly tourist destinations.
I would request anyone looking to remove any of the aforementioned venues discuss it here first, however. Such deletions should be avoided unless there is particular good reason to exclude a venue. Otherwise it sets a risky precedent. I wouldn't want commercial competitors of local venues in the town coming here and deleting their competitors' details, for example, for their own gain.
Doesn't Wrexham Lager deserve a mention? -- JBellis 21:19, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yes- I've put a stub in for this but couldn't remember the date of closure. It needs somebody with better knowledge to fill in the gaps. Velela 11:14, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I have moved all history content to 'History of Wrexham' page. I think what needs to be done is the current history on the 'Wrexham' page should be brought down to a couple of paragraphs of history, for the last 200 years or so. Including Wrexham's borough status etc....
I think it is a bit misleading to descrbe St Giles as "Wrexham's main Church". I think "Wrexham's main Anglican church" would be better, as Wrexham also has a Roman Catholic Cathedral known as "Our Lady of Sorrows", or "St Mary's", which also has a large congregation, and is the main church of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Wrexham, which extends over much of North Wales.
Most of this artice sems to give a negative view of Wrexham (a lot of space is give over to the riots, far more than it needs). I think some parts need to be re-written.
I would agree, but we aren't trying to 'sell' Wrexham to anyone, just tell it like it is. Born Acorn 11:49, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the point about negativity. It's not a matter of 'selling' Wrexham but informing the wider audience in an impartial way. A lot more has gone on in Wrexham over the years than those few days when a large fight broke out. Not even a proper riot, when compared with Toxteth or Brixton. Apau98 ( talk) 18:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have any pictures of Wrexham they'd be willing to upload? I could do it myself, but just checking.
Please remember that this is an article on the town of Wrexham and should contain information about the town only. There is a separate article on the county borough of Wrexham which can include information on other parts of the county borough! -- Maelor 13:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC) More positive about this great town.
More information is needed here.
The introduction currently states: "The town itself has a population of 43,000 and is thus the largest town in North Wales. The surrounding county borough has a population of 109,300." This can't be right - the council website states that the population of the entire county borough is (2004 est.) 130,200 extrapolated from the 2001 census figure of 128,476. If you go from the councils' ward map can someone say which wards actually comprise the town area? Brynffynnon? New Broughton? Coedpoeth? Then you can go to the census data and work out the actual town population. -- Arwel ( talk) 21:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I think this is resolved.... 63,087 is the Popluation of Wrexham' Urban area which was defined by the ONS in 2001. This is a 2001 and dosent seem to be available for 2005 estimates (although its prob about 68,000). I dont think the 40 odd thousand figure should be used as its no longer clear what is and isnt wrexham town, added to this Wrexham Council no longer use such a figure. The urban area is defined as the continuous urban sprawl. This includes much of new broughton etc but excludes 'villages' like Coedpoeth.
I would like to know where u found out that Annie Lennox lived in coedpoeth who in their right mind would want to live in that shithole. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 0555 ( talk) 20:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC).
What the hell is wrong with Coedpoeth....
The whole of Wrexham is pretty hellish...
I don't believe this either. It is noticeable that the page on
Annie Lennox does not mention those crucial, formative years in Coedpoeth at all. But then
Bwlchgwyn was once going to house an International Elvis Presley Museum, so who knows...
Judge Nutmeg
04:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I am Private Luke Roberts currently serving in basra and my mate stumbled across this whislt doing revision for college. what i want to no is how did u find my name and wot more do u no? —Preceding
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23:29, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone got any more proof of Annie Lennox living in Coedpoeth, the web is full of articles that mention her name and "coedpoeth" but they all seem like copies of this wikipedia article. I would really like to know if there is any concrete evidence for this.
194.82.118.105 (
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14:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Support. The article on Wrexham City Status is marked with a merge tag, yet there has been no discussion of that proposal here. I support that merge. The City Status article is quite short and does not provide enough context to stand alone. This (i.e., Wrexham) article has a section with the same name, where the city status discussion would nicely fit. Hult041956 19:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Anybody ever noticed that the motto Labor Omnia Vincit, translated as Hard work overcomes all things, also means Labour Always Wins? Never a truer word spoken. I wonder which party introduced that motto? Judge Nutmeg ( talk) 02:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello editors,
Just a note that this article would benefit greatly from being more closely aligned to the WP:UKTOWNS guideline. There are alot of sprawling and conflicting sections in the article that would be better served following the standard layout.
Futhermore, inline with what has been stated in the past by other editors, I've removed any confusion with the Wrexham County Borough. Please be mindful that they are two different entities. -- Jza84 · ( talk) 17:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Any editors got problems with this? Remove if needed but id prefer to know, noone I know has put this up in my defence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.165.16 ( talk) 21:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
The list of 'notable' people includes some dubious entries. Wikipedia:Notability (people) includes guidelines as to what criteria to apply when deciding if someone is notable or not. I propose to carry out a major edit and re-write in prose, as suggested, and weeding out the lesser known people. K-Klass, for example. Also, I don't think Annie Lennox lived in Coedpoeth - all references to her doing that are derived from this article, it would seem. Apau98 ( talk) 12:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
This section seems a little vague and it suggests that all the industries in Wrexham closed, with Brymbo being the last one. I'm looking for sources to improve this section - anyone have any informationto share? Apau98 ( talk) 08:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
How is the Welsh name pronounced? /uˈrɛksam/?
-- Twid ( talk) 13:00, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Could the writer be more specific about the nature of "the relic" of St Richard Gwyn? His biographical article speaks of relics (in the plural) being held at the cathedral and in Llanidloes. Cloptonson ( talk) 20:25, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Would anyone object to including this video reconstruction of Holt Castle? Richard Nevell ( talk) 16:33, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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Recent edit https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wrexham&oldid=1089019793 is factually incorrect as per https://www.wrexham.gov.uk/service/political-management-council TheoCourt ( talk) 13:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
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Wrexham is now a city and the population is 80.000 Deltahot ( talk) 08:09, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
What should be stated as Wrexham's population?
The article currently uses the Wrexham built-up area statistic of ~65,000. [1] However some sources (although this may not represent all sources) for the recent city status, [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] use ~61-62,000 which is for the Wrexham built-up area subdivision (which excludes two other Wrexham BUA subdivisions; Rhostyllen and Bradley). [2]
The article was in Oct 2003 created with a 130,000 figure but at the time also discussed the county borough. 40,000 was then added shortly later, becoming 43,000 in this 2005 edit. This 2007 edit, added a 68,000 urban area population, with 43,000 referred as the original/old town limits figure. This 2007 IP edit, removed the 43,000, but restored a few months later in this edit, but then removed in this 2008 edit. This 2014 edit, re-added the 61,000 figure, with it retained until this 2019 infobox edit, adding the county figure until a 2020 reversion adding 65,000, and largely has remained since. So past editors cannot really agree either.
A very old discussion above had an editor support the entire BUA figure, but stated "continuous urban sprawl" which technically excludes Rhostyllen and Bradley as they are not strictly connected to Wrexham per the ONS (there wouldn't be subdivisions).
So should the population remain at the 65,000 figure or be at 61,000? TLDR are Rhostyllen and Bradley part of Wrexham statistically? Wales.com uses 65,000, whereas Britannica, Wrexham.com and the Guardian uses ~42,000 for the "town", meaning only the four central communities. [9] [10] [11]. Leader newspaper quotes 42,000. [12]
I am personally leaning towards the 61,000 figure as it is the strictly contiguous area of Wrexham.
Alternatively maybe it can be worded or formatted to include all two/three? I have added a note and link to the simple BUA article I made to distinguish it better.
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Many Thanks Dank Jae 02:45, 3 September 2022 (UTC)