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And Iceland is willing to allow Bobby Fischer to come back? Well, they are welcome to him! *Kat*
This feels like it was ripped from a book. It just doesn't sound like a person wrote it for an encyclopedia, but for a chess book. I'm going to mark this as possible plagarism. CompIsMyRx 03:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The article says "Endowed with a fierce fighting spirit and a hater of agreed draws, Fischer had campaigned against this practice. " Is that correct? Almost all of Fischer's draws were draws by agreement. Is what is meant: short or quick draws by agreement? Bubba73 (talk), 00:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
He did object to pre-arranged draws. The practice, when used by many Soviet grandmasters (between themselves) who played in tournaments in which Fischer also participated (usually the only American at this level), was putting him at a clear disadvantage (shorter rest periods or even a possibility to manipulate the final standings). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.146.238.235 ( talk) 20:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I notice this was renamed the other day. I believe this article should have been renamed FIDE World Chess Championship 1972 not Classical World Chess Championship 1972. The match was held under the auspices of FIDE. The term Classical is mainly used to differentiate from the FIDE championship. p.s. simply World Chess Championship 1972 would be OK too. Rocksong 08:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
OK. Is that a consensus that we rename it to World Chess Championship 1972? Rocksong 03:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Page moved, per Wikipedia:Requested moves. - GTBacchus( talk) 07:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't this match pretty significant outside of the chess world too? I don't know too much about this or I'd write about it myself, but didn't Soviet chess players pretty much dominate up until Fischer claimed the title through this match? Somebody should add a section about the "aftermath" and the cultural side effects of this match, to simply acknowledge that this match was significant in the psychological battle of the Cold War. — Lantoka ( talk | contrib) 04:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Agree that it's silly to discuss every game, but 10, 11, 18, and 21 probably deserve better treatment. Billbrock 08:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
This page is remarkably similar to [1]. Was this page copied from that one or vice versa?
Is Arvind the same person who owns the copyright of www.bobby-fischer.net or did that guy copy from this website?
Alex.tan ( talk) 13:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
When did the match start? Chvsanchez ( talk) 05:35, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Done.
Bubba73
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At the request of Bubba73, here is my assessment of the article ( this version) against the criteria for B-class.
So I think the article still needs some work to get to full B-class, especially regarding broadness and structure of the "Background" section. But please remember I am known for my harsh assessments :-) ! SyG ( talk) 19:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
The article says that after the ninth game, "At this point the Soviet establishment asked Spassky to return to Moscow and claim the match by default.[citation needed] At considerable risk, Spassky refused." Benko and Hochberg say something like this, although unfortunately they don't say at what point this occurred. They state, "At one point, after one of Fischer's delays, Spassky's superiors in Moscow ordered him to come home and claim the match by default. Spassky, at considerable risk, refused." Pal Benko and Burt Hochberg, Winning with Chess Psychology, p. 85. It is not apparent from the text of the article (or anything else I am aware of) what the basis for making such a claim after Game 9 (which Spassky, not Fischer, postponed because of illness) would be. Game 2 would make much more sense. Krakatoa ( talk) 18:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
According to the article, "Fischer became the first American to be the official World Champion (which started in 1886)." Although this belief is almost universally held, it's false. Wilhelm Steinitz emigrated to the U.S. in 1883 (before winning the World Championship in 1886) and became a U.S. citizen in 1888, Americanizing his name to " William Steinitz". He was World Champion until 1894. Steinitz thus was a resident of the United States during his entire tenure as World Champion, and a citizen of the U.S. for six of his eight years as World Champion. Krakatoa ( talk) 15:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Paul Morphy was the 1st world champion byy match play. Rubn Fine won the world title when Keres was not allowed to continue in the tournament to replace Alekhine. America should not parrot the comunist fide propaganda. —Preceding
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The caption under the photo talks about the Eanes Executive Chair. A photo from the second round (Edmonds and Eidinow, page 172) shows that Spassky did not yet have one. He must have gotten one sometime after game 2. Bubba73 (talk), 17:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The 2nd note comparing the executive chairs to one used in the 1961 match is false!!! There are 2 people playing next to them,it can not be their world title game!!! —Preceding
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In the discussion of the candidates' matches, the flag given for Wolfgang Uhlmannn is that of East Germany. The flag given for Robert Hübner is simply that of "Germany". Given that Germany was split in half at the time, shouldn't it be "West Germany"? Krakatoa ( talk) 07:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
According to
WP:MOS, "An overriding principle on Wikipedia is that style and formatting should be applied consistently within articles". I think the article violates this by referring to game numbers in five different ways:
"game 1"
"game two"
No designation at all [game 3]
"the fourth game"
"Game 7"
"The 21st game"
Consistent with WP:MOS, I think we should adopt one convention and use it throughout the article. I suggest the terse "Game 1" (my second choice would be lower-case "game 1"), rather than lengthening a long article further with "the first game", "the second game", etc. Krakatoa ( talk) 07:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
This line: Spassky abandoned his prepared lines and attempted to outplay Fischer in lines that presumably neither of them had prepared, but this also proved fruitless for the defending champion. had a reference to an article by Gligoric Gligoric's book, but the reference was removed and replaced by a Fact tag. Was it that the reference did not say that?
Bubba73
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15:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Game 14 (Gligoric p. 87) - Fischer plays 5.B-B4 "deviating from the two previous games"
Game 15 (G p. 91) - With 7...B-K2! "Black [i.e. Fischer] is first to deviate"
Game 16 (G p. 96) - Fischer plays 4.BxN, "Faithful to his tactics not to repeat the same line twice."
Game 17 (G p. 102) - Fischer innovates on move 1 with 1...P-Q3!; "Fischer has never played like that before. According to his present tactics he does not use the same line twice in the match."
Game 18 (G p. 107) - Fischer plays 6.B-KN5!, "The first Rauzer Attack in Fischer's career. Never repeat the same line was Fischer's rule in this match."
Game 19 (G p. 113) - Fischer plays 4...B-N5!, pursuant to "Fischer's normal tactics, not repeating the same line twice."
Game 20 (G p. 117) - Spassky's first 9 moves are identical to game 18. Fischer deviates with 10.B-K2, which "looks like a brand new move, but has been played before in a few games"
Game 21 - (G. p. 120) "Fischer again disclosed an original idea of a great thinker"
(G. p. 121) Fischer played 2...P-K3 ("Once again Fischer varies."), 7...P-Q4! ("Quite unexpected."), and 8...PxP! ("One more surprise. ... This new Black set-up must have been analyzed by Fischer beforehand.")
The statement in the text of our article is thus not merely unsupported, but demonstrably false. I think it should be removed. Krakatoa ( talk) 19:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
The Bxh2 sacrifice in game 1 is here written off as a blunder - in fact there is a great deal of analysis on the subject and it is not clear what the final verdict is. The very least that could be mentioned is that there is some debate to whether or not the move is a mistake. Some people believe the decisive mistake only came later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.224.97 ( talk) 01:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
The article looks very good and has lots of references. I can't believe this should still be a C-Class article on the quality scale. I personally don't have time/inclination to get it reviewed, but I would think it is better than a C-class article. Drkirkby ( talk) 20:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Only 3 of the 21 games have game scores, I think the remaining 18 should be incorporated as well due to importance of "Match of the Century". (Same as how all game scores are incorporated in match articles Deep Blue versus Garry Kasparov, World Chess Championship 2008, World Chess Championship 2010, World Chess Championship 2012, etc.) Ok, Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 10:37, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Such a celebrated match, but no photographs are illustrating this article? Pity. Toccata quarta ( talk) 10:51, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Mike Christie ( talk · contribs) 01:31, 11 April 2014 (UTC) The article is detailed and thorough on the chess itself, and very well-written. I haven't been able to check any of the sources, but I don't see anything likely to be controversial, and the sources cited are all reliable.
I have two concerns about GA status. First, I think it should be possible to add some images. See this category on Commons, for example; and there are more images there that aren't in that category. Pictures of the arena and of Spassky would also be good.
Second, I wonder if the material on the bizarre events and the level of media interest could be expanded. The sentence starting "The off-the-board antics continued..." compresses into a few lines material that has filled entire magazine articles and book chapters. I don't have the 1972 book, but I recalled enough details to start Googling, and found this book by Jan Stradling, which has a chapter on the match. Stradling gives some of the strange details, such as the chairs being X-rayed, and the air being analyzed. This is rather underplayed in the article, and I think it does deserve some expansion. I wouldn't fail the article for GA just on this point, since the article does cover this material to some degree, but I think there's an opportunity there. If you were to take this to FA I think it would need some expansion in that area.
A very enjoyable article. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 01:31, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
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...at this link: https://www.chess.com/blog/Spektrowski/boris-spassky-2016-interview, with some interesting remarks concerning the WC match 1972. May be a chess expert can incorporate some of it in the WP-article? -- Herbmuell ( talk) 02:58, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
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OK it wasn't health reasons that Hubner withdrew, it was a protest against noise levels which the organizers did nothing about. This chessgames.com page is uncharacteristically well sourced. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=84954 Wikipedia really needs to write this stuff up, probably in separate articles about the interzonal and candidates stages. MaxBrowne ( talk) 09:02, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
The sentence: "But the games in this match proved to be his last public competitive games for several decades."
Has been edited to read: "But the games in this match proved to be his last public competitive games for two decades."
Reason: The Fischer-Spassky rematch was in 1992 (20 years after the original match), and the word "several" implies more than two.
(Sorry if I'm not doing this correctly, I don't often edit Wikipedia.)
Could the original editor or somebody clarify the undefined chart on the games. In the article it starts like this:
1) What does the order of names mean, like Spassky first, then -Fischer ? Does it mean that Spassky won or Spassky had white? Please explain.
2) Then what do 1-0 & 0-1 mean? Does the order follow that of the player order? So if it is Spassky-Fischer, then the first number is Spassky's number & the 2nd is Fischer's number (1 = won, 0 = lost)? ( PeacePeace ( talk) 21:15, 27 December 2019 (UTC))
User:The Gnome: A story has been added to the discussion of game 13, based on two interviews with Karpov, about Karpov's activity as a (remote) spectator of the match. This does not look like very reliable sourcing -- Karpov talking about what Karpov accomplished. Also, they give no technical details, such as what position or what stage of the game was being discussed. Is there a better source for this incident? Bruce leverett ( talk) 17:49, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
This image was recently added. Looking at the Summary, it is "Own work" and the author is Blockhouse321. It is a work of art dated 1972 and signed by (pardon if I am not reading the letters correctly) "Sig k Arnason". Is Blockhouse321 the person who signed this work and/or the person who holds rights to it? Bruce leverett ( talk) 01:00, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Bruce leverett, the painting is hanging at the Bobby Fischer Center in Iceland. I took the picture when I was there a year ago. Many tourists frequent the BFC and many pictures are taken of the painting by people. Thank you. Blockhouse321 ( talk) 09:22, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
I wish the article had mentioned why in the world the match was played in Iceland. 2602:306:BC65:4279:18EA:CD42:6407:BC21 ( talk) 17:06, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Bxh2 was not a blunder, it was the best move. A further move was the cause of the loss. Ke4, f5, and f4 are big blunders. 209.141.181.116 ( talk) 19:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)